UFC Vegas 70: Krylov vs. Spann, Feb 25

XociDe said:
Quite surprised at most picking Krylov here. He hasn't looked good recently imo. I bet him vs Oezdemir and it was frustrating to watch, even though he won. He is slow and is always there to eat a counter which is terrible against someone like Spann. The concern is grappling, but I think if Spann cracks him, he will fold.

If he tries to stand and throws those sloppy berzerker type punches, he's going to sleep. If he uses grappling as much as possible, maybe he wears Spann down. I think it's much more likely that he gets blasted in the first or second round though.
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Seems most here are actually on Spann. Seems people believe when he says he is taking things seriously.
 
Benny 97 said:
Ryan Spann
•size advantage
•reach advantage
•momentum advantage
•athletic advantage
•power advantage
•ground advantage
•hometown advantage
•possible biased judging
•less mileage
•underdog money
•UFC wants Spann to win (DWCS alumni)
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yiure right on a lot …. But spann does not have the ground advantage …. He has a great choke and that’s about it …. He’s been controlled by weaker men multiple times …. I’d say krylov has the advantage on the ground - he only had to worry about the guillotine and that’s it ….. should he get spann down - he should be able to control and pound him
 
sonhow said:
Seems most here are actually on Spann. Seems people believe when he says he is taking things seriously.
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Skimmed the thread quite quickly but thought I only saw one person on Spann. But you're right. Seen a lot of people on twitter picking Krylov as well.

Anyway, I think Spann wins but as others have said, he is pretty flakey. I just definitely wouldn't bet Krylov here personally.
 
XociDe said:
Skimmed the thread quite quickly but thought I only saw one person on Spann. But you're right. Seen a lot of people on twitter picking Krylov as well.

Anyway, I think Spann wins but as others have said, he is pretty flakey. I just definitely wouldn't bet Krylov here personally.
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I'll probably root for Spann but undecided about laying any bets on this one just yet.
 
Benny 97 said:
Ryan Spann
•size advantage
•reach advantage
•momentum advantage
•athletic advantage
•power advantage
•ground advantage
•hometown advantage
•possible biased judging
•less mileage
•underdog money
•UFC wants Spann to win (DWCS alumni)
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  • 2 inches in lhw division in both reach and height is not that massive.
  • i don't get what this means, Krylov has momentum, beating Volkan is better than washed ring rust Reyes.
  • Krylov has far better work rate that requires more athleticism, pre mma he had several master of sports in various disciplines.
  • 6 kos in 28 fights. Failed to ko Sam Alvey, Luis Henrique. I would argue they are near the same in terms of power. Krylov power comes from his kicks.
  • He has a nice Guillotine, but compared to their common opponent , Johnny walker, Krylov controlled him better where Spann failed. Krylov sub defense is the difference. Why he was tapped by Misha.
  • Home advantage is great but , it's not like we haven't seen home hero lose before.
  • Spann has two rounds of cardio. Only wins or losses in R1 90% of the time, less milage going the distance. Ref. Alvey vs Spann for cardio .
  • Milage doesn't affect fighters with good finish rate as much, he also has only been koed once in his whole ufc career since 2013.
  • Dog money, but it's best to bet on sub guillotine 1-2 that is the best play imo.
  • I don't think Dana really cares about Spann that much.
 
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Stat_Collector said:
  • 2 inches in lhw division in both reach and height is not that massive.
  • i don't get what this means, Krylov has momentum, beating Volkan is better than washed ring rust Reyes.
  • Krylov has far better work rate that requires more athleticism, pre mma he had several master of sports in various disciplines.
  • 6 kos in 28 fights. Failed to ko Sam Alvey, Luis Henrique. I would argue they are near the same in terms of power. Krylov power comes from his kicks.
  • He has a nice Guillotine, but compared to their common opponent , Johnny walker, Krylov controlled him better where Spann failed. Krylov sub defense is the difference. Why he was tapped by Misha.
  • Home advantage is great but , it's not like we haven't seen home hero lose before.
  • Spann has two rounds of cardio. Only wins or losses in R1 90% of the time, less milage going the distance. Ref. Alvey vs Spann for cardio .
  • Milage doesn't affect fighters with good finish rate as much, he also has only been koed once in his whole ufc career since 2013.
  • Dog money, but it's best to bet on sub guillotine 1-2 that is the best play imo.
  • I don't think Dana really cares about Spann that much.
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How does Krylov have more momentum, he lost less than a year ago and coming off 29-28 win. Spann has two quick finishes and last loss was 2021. Spann is the best fighter out of Texas right now, everyone in Fortis MMA knows Spann can be a champion. Krylov is a gatekeeper, who’s not dangerous, not good anywhere. Im impressed with Ryan Spann, he has a very high ceiling
 
IMO, neither Spann nor Krylov have that high of a ceiling, but they are both typically entertaining to watch.
 
Benny 97 said:
How does Krylov have more momentum, he lost less than a year ago and coming off 29-28 win. Spann has two quick finishes and last loss was 2021. Spann is the best fighter out of Texas right now, everyone in Fortis MMA knows Spann can be a champion. Krylov is a gatekeeper, who’s not dangerous, not good anywhere. Im impressed with Ryan Spann, he has a very high ceiling
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Not betting related but Neal and Yanez are better fighters than Spann.
 
Benny 97 said:
How does Krylov have more momentum, he lost less than a year ago and coming off 29-28 win. Spann has two quick finishes and last loss was 2021. Spann is the best fighter out of Texas right now, everyone in Fortis MMA knows Spann can be a champion. Krylov is a gatekeeper, who’s not dangerous, not good anywhere. Im impressed with Ryan Spann, he has a very high ceiling
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Hill lost to Paul Craig too, that didn't deter me from playing Hill.

Krylov has better experience against top competition and has performed decent. A split dec with Glover, a competitive fight with Ankalaev .

Having quick finishes against Misha who is chinny and Reyes who is washed and came off a long layoff. That's great but in a 5 round fight i'm going to favor the fighter with more experience going past R1 against top competition, he's already been there done that. I doubt Spann could have gone the distance with Glover or even match Ankalaev in significant strikes.

Both Krylov and Anthony Smith have similar traits as fighters, both like to kick and chain combinations, and both use bjj to take the back and attack rear chokes. Spann is only good at using a guillotine against the cage standing. Show me a fight where Spann took someone down, pass their guard and got a submission. Krylov is the better grappler, better takedown artist. If this fight hits the floor, there is a chance Spann gets his back taken and submitted.

As for Spann being a future champion, that is only possible if Jiri, Hill, Ankalaev, Jan all died in a plane crash together.
 
Stat_Collector said:
Hill lost to Paul Craig too, that didn't deter me from playing Hill.

Krylov has better experience against top competition and has performed decent. A split dec with Glover, a competitive fight with Ankalaev .

Having quick finishes against Misha who is chinny and Reyes who is washed and came off a long layoff. That's great but in a 5 round fight i'm going to favor the fighter with more experience going past R1 against top competition, he's already been there done that. I doubt Spann could have gone the distance with Glover or even match Ankalaev in significant strikes.

Both Krylov and Anthony Smith have similar traits as fighters, both like to kick and chain combinations, and both use bjj to take the back and attack rear chokes. Spann is only good at using a guillotine against the cage standing. Show me a fight where Spann took someone down, pass their guard and got a submission. Krylov is the better grappler, better takedown artist. If this fight hits the floor, there is a chance Spann gets his back taken and submitted.

As for Spann being a future champion, that is only possible if Jiri, Hill, Ankalaev, Jan all died in a plane crash together.
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Spann just started training last year. The Reyes fight was his first “real” training camp. Before that he only did push ups & sit ups. According to Spann “I didn’t train because I knew I was better than these guys” . I do agree, He loses to those guys. U can add Rakic as well
 
Benny 97 said:
How does Krylov have more momentum, he lost less than a year ago and coming off 29-28 win. Spann has two quick finishes and last loss was 2021. Spann is the best fighter out of Texas right now, everyone in Fortis MMA knows Spann can be a champion. Krylov is a gatekeeper, who’s not dangerous, not good anywhere. Im impressed with Ryan Spann, he has a very high ceiling
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The guy who went to a life or death split decision against a washed up Sam Alvey only two years ago can be a future champion with a very high ceiling now lmao.
 
Benny 97 said:


Spann just started training last year. The Reyes fight was his first “real” training camp. Before that he only did push ups & sit ups. According to Spann “I didn’t train because I knew I was better than these guys” . I do agree, He loses to those guys. U can add Rakic as well
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I call bullshit his training consisted of only push-ups and sit-ups. He’s also lost 7 times so he clearly wasn’t better than all those guys like he claimed.
 
With that being said I’ll probably play Spann small just for fun. When two wild reckless flakes are going at it who knows what’s going to happen. I’ll take the + side.
 
There's a whole lot of talk about spann finally training. Let's not read too much into that as fighters often come out with such claims. Black beast also claimed to not train until later on and look how his career has turned out. I'm not saying spann is not a changed fighter, but moreso be careful what you are lead to believe
 
Stat_Collector said:
dude has had 58 fights both pro and amateur. He just beat the cage warriors champion as well. Armsfield has solid wrestling but is he any better than Cartwright? If Jose can reverse Cartwright, he can sweep Armsfield. Armsfield also kept losing on the feet against Mark Slyter who is 6-4 so resorted to wrestling, if he can lose standing to a guy like that, he's going to give up rounds getting hammered with elbows and knees which Jose does well. 140+ is good odds here because Jose should be the favorite, he would be cage warriors champ if that fight took place in England.
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Yeah,I feel this is pretty much a 50-50 fight with slight leaning for Jose because of experience.I expected the line to move towards Jose which is not happening so exposed myself little too much on him though,hope he gets it
 
Seems to me people are also betting Martinez because they saw Leavitt lose to Paddy and then Paddy get exposed against Gordon,so they automatically fade Jordan.Martinez is tough and will dish more damage on the feet but there's a big level difference in the grappling,Jordan can get him on the fence,chain wrestle,eventually I think he get's the sub
 
Bakayoko said:
Seems to me people are also betting Martinez because they saw Leavitt lose to Paddy and then Paddy get exposed against Gordon,so they automatically fade Jordan.Martinez is tough and will dish more damage on the feet but there's a big level difference in the grappling,Jordan can get him on the fence,chain wrestle,eventually I think he get's the sub
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Or he doesn’t get the sub, gasses out and gets beaten to a pulp
 
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