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Due to my ethical values and environmental concerns, I realized I can no longer buy animal products. I've been vegan for a several months now.

It's been easier than I thought in the sense I don't really miss meat or other animal products. I thought I would miss cheese the most, and so far It's been fine. It helps that I've been in countries with lots of Buddhists and Hindus who have had a long tradition of vegetarian/vegan cuisine.

I biggest concern was health and muscle loss. But so far I look at feel the same. I bench numbers haven't gone down. My bowel movements have a improved dramatically as I used to suffer from painful long shits. Whether that's due to the lack of meat or other factors, who knows. I also take b12 supplements as advised.

Maybe the hardest part is having to remember to check if things are vegan. Many places have put milk in my coffee or egg as I forget to ask.

I'm still new to this, and so far I feel fine, but I wonder if there are more experienced people out here who can shed more insight.
 
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How much protein are you still taking ? Do you count it ?
 
Laza cds mma said:
How much protein are you still taking ? Do you count it ?
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I never counted protein, just ate lots of meat before. Now I eat lots of tofu, tempeh, and beans. I do wonder if I'm getting enough sometimes, but I'm just going by how I'm feeling.

Meatspin said:
Too busy talking about Crossfit? Lol
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I hate crossfit. I can talk about that.
 
chill doggie said:
You can eat grass-fed free range eggs from local farmers guilt free and you can get B12, Calcium, Iron, Protein, from them.
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My approach is that, when I absolutely have to for survival, I will only eat wild animals that I have caught myself. Buying eggs from a farmer still goes against my values. If I was too buy animal protein, I'd eat mealworms as they seem to have less environmental impact. I even think I shouldn't eat rice anymore because of how much water rice farming uses.

I also actively travel a lot so finding a local farmer to buy eggs from to cook isn't realistic anyway.
 
Tuvatuva said:
Due to my ethical values and environmental concerns, I realized I can no longer buy animal products. I've been vegan for a several months now.

It's been easier than I thought in the sense I don't really miss meat or other animal products. I thought I would miss cheese the most, and so far It's been fine. It helps that I've been in countries with lots of Buddhists and Hindus who have had a long tradition of vegetarian/vegan cuisine.

I biggest concern was health and muscle loss. But so far I look at feel the same. I bench numbers haven't gone down. My bowel movements have a improved dramatically as I used to suffer from painful long shits. Whether that's due to the lack of meat or other factors, who knows. I also take b12 supplements as advised.

Maybe the hardest part is having to remember to check if things are vegan. Many places have put milk in my coffee or egg as I forget to ask.

I'm still new to this, and so far I feel fine, but I wonder if there are more experienced people out here who can shed more insight.
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The deaths involved in a field of avocado trees is way higher than in a field of grass fed cows.

Because growing vegan food attracts animals that eat it and you have to kill them to protect the crop.

If you don't drink milk, that is a cow that no longer has a fiscal reason to be kept alive, and therefore avoiding milk causes the death of a cow, not it's liberation.

Don't for a second think that it's ethical to go vegan on the basis of reducing animal deaths, it's quite the opposite. The only arguement for it in that regard is the environmental arguement, one that's suspect in other ways we won't go into here.

Regarding health, the likely impact will be weaker bones and tendons, higher rates of depression and anxiety. Hair loss, muscle wasting, skin rashes, hypothyroidism, and anemia. Depression is increased, as is anxiety.

Nutrients such as omega-3, iron, calcium, iodine, and vitamin B12 are more difficult to obtain from plant-based foods. Often leading to over or under consumption.

And why the fuck do you care if someone puts milk in your coffee, you're not allergic to it, it's not some kind of magic, there's no immortal sin you'd be committing.
 
Ethical Values:
I hate plants so much that I will kill and eat them and only them.

Very ethical...
 
Phlog said:
The deaths involved in a field of avocado trees is way higher than in a field of grass fed cows.

Because growing vegan food attracts animals that eat it and you have to kill them to protect the crop.

If you don't drink milk, that is a cow that no longer has a fiscal reason to be kept alive, and therefore avoiding milk causes the death of a cow, not it's liberation.

Don't for a second think that it's ethical to go vegan on the basis of reducing animal deaths, it's quite the opposite. The only arguement for it in that regard is the environmental arguement, one that's suspect in other ways we won't go into here.

Regarding health, the likely impact will be weaker bones and tendons, higher rates of depression and anxiety. Hair loss, muscle wasting, skin rashes, hypothyroidism, and anemia. Depression is increased, as is anxiety.

Nutrients such as omega-3, iron, calcium, iodine, and vitamin B12 are more difficult to obtain from plant-based foods. Often leading to over or under consumption.
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Let's not forget the huge extinction of wild life that's caused by monoculture that is required to feed a person that subsidies on just a plant based diet.
 
William Huggins said:
Let's not forget the huge extinction of wild life that's caused by monoculture that is required to feed a person that subsidies on just a plant based diet.
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Or the increased expense of vegan options, money going to richer producers. Money that could be spent on saving lives by buying mosquito nets or the like for the poor.
 
Phlog said:
Or the increased expense of vegan options, money going to richer producers. Money that could be spent on saving lives by buying mosquito nets or the like for the poor.
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Yeah, if you look at the companys and people backing these producers of these processed foods because let's face it, there certainly not healthy...... Full of oil mostly and fillers
 
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