Jeff Chan?

He doesn't spar hard known names. Post a video, I guarantee it's not hard sparring according to my criteria.
I’m not even a fan of Jeff. Neither his fighting style or personality. But I have to give credit where it’s due.



I would definitely be annoyed that he’s wearing sock shinguards too

Alex is a lot fresher (Jeff has a very high energy, almost wasteful style, just full of explosions) and a full weight class smaller than him, just a better fighter in general. But to say Jeff only goes hard against nobodies is absurd
 
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I’m not even a fan of Jeff. Neither his fighting style or personality. But I have to give credit where it’s due.



I would definitely be annoyed that he’s wearing sock shinguards too

Alex is a lot fresher (Jeff has a very high energy, almost wasteful style, just full of explosions) and a full weight class smaller than him, just a better fighter in general. But to say Jeff only goes hard against nobodies is absurd

Jeff visits gyms and I recognize some of the fighters. They are legit competitors overseas. He just has a style that people don't like to deal with and it escalates into a brawl easily. I don't really watch all his stuff but I seen a few where it always devolves into a brawl. It is usually like that when they can't match his speed without increasing the power. I think it is also the fact that he is the visitor and he brings a camera.
 
I’m not even a fan of Jeff. Neither his fighting style or personality. But I have to give credit where it’s due.



I would definitely be annoyed that he’s wearing sock shinguards too

Alex is a lot fresher (Jeff has a very high energy, almost wasteful style, just full of explosions) and a full weight class smaller than him, just a better fighter in general. But to say Jeff only goes hard against nobodies is absurd



I didn't say he goes hard vs nobodies.

Also I don't know who that is in that video and they are going normal and not hard.

He already did 6 pro fights so he doesn't have to prove he can fight.

I think lighter and normal sparring is way better then hard sparring.

I don't even remember how we got here.

He's a good youtuber. And did a couple mma fights.
 
I guess I suck at the internet or something. Not sure I'm a fan of any flickering thought,out of a mood, to stay on the internet forever. I guess I should have convos and not forum post. I even hate my old posts.

In reality I'm really appreciative of everyone's skills pro or amateur or hoobist.

Online text that stays sucks. I might even quit posting regularly. I'll keep reading for updated es, fun and ideas.

Text got a lot of room for misinterpretation. No mimic, no voice, no body language, no energy, just cold text and you don't even know who replied to it or why.

I'd probably think I'm a hater too if I read my messages online, it just ends up wrong entirely after a disagreement / miscommunication online. And ends up comming off like I'm disrespecting strangers for no reason.

I was making a point bout style of light sparring. Ends up with me not giving credit. So yeah.

Not sure how good sherdog is for our reputation eventually.

If anyone ever reads this. Who knows.
 
Jeff visits gyms and I recognize some of the fighters. They are legit competitors overseas. He just has a style that people don't like to deal with and it escalates into a brawl easily. I don't really watch all his stuff but I seen a few where it always devolves into a brawl. It is usually like that when they can't match his speed without increasing the power. I think it is also the fact that he is the visitor and he brings a camera.
there’s also the old adage, “you have to box with the brawler and brawl with the boxer”. He’s slick so you can’t give him space to move and time to think. People may be getting in his grill and making it ugly as a strategic choice
 
I think it is also the fact that he is the visitor and he brings a camera.

That was never allowed in the gyms I was. Is that the norm nowadays to allow that? Or does he pay for that extra as a guest? Am undecided on how my stance is on that . On the one hand you can analyse everything later (would love to have some of my sparrings as videos) and with the YTbers I guess thats how they make money, but on the other I think my coaches have a legit point that the training athmosphere is more constructive and relaxed with no cameras at all.
 
That was never allowed in the gyms I was. Is that the norm nowadays to allow that? Or does he pay for that extra as a guest? Am undecided on how my stance is on that . On the one hand you can analyse everything later (would love to have some of my sparrings as videos) and with the YTbers I guess thats how they make money, but on the other I think my coaches have a legit point that the training athmosphere is more constructive and relaxed with no cameras at all.
I think you ask for permission to film. It's free advertisement for the gym too. I am guessing some gyms will agree to it while some don't want that type of attention. I am not sure if Jeff arranges it beforehand or he just drops in. The gym will probably call up all their fighters to show up that day if he arranges it beforehand. You get what I mean? Personally I think even gyms that wouldn't let you film for a youtube channel will allow you to film if you just tell them you want it for yourself.
 
I think he got a unique style that requires good solid cardio. And it seem to work for him.
 
He is 31 years old and he is 4-1 in MMA, from what I see.
He fights once every 2 or 4 years.

His opponents' records are:
0-2
0-2
0-4
3-3

Probably he will not make a career in MMA, but good thing he has that YT chanel, where he asks strangers in NY to punch him and he spars with Kung Fu Shaolin Master.

I prefer to watch Joe Valtellini or Gabriel Varga's channels.
Bazooka Joe has 6 times less subscribers, but he doesn't fight with Kung Fu Shaolin Master.
 
He is 31 years old and he is 4-1 in MMA, from what I see.
He fights once every 2 or 4 years.

His opponents' records are:
0-2
0-2
0-4
3-3

Probably he will not make a career in MMA, but good thing he has that YT chanel, where he asks strangers in NY to punch him and he spars with Kung Fu Shaolin Master.

I prefer to watch Joe Valtellini or Gabriel Varga's channels.
Bazooka Joe has 6 times less subscribers, but he doesn't fight with Kung Fu Shaolin Master.
ive been to a few bazooka Joe seminars. That dude is a great coach.

I also one time drunkenly planned a bank heist with him and a handful of other coaches. My theory was if we found a bank with nothing but female tellers then we could walk in and steal the vault without them noticing because they’d all be focused on joe. Seriously, every woman who walked us at the bar stared at him like a cat eyeballing a bowl of cream. He is a handsome man
 
Agree with @biscuitsbrah. He is athletic. His style even depends on it but just looks weird. The weirdness imo lcomes from that he doesnt execute punches in a powerline whole body movement. That makes them weak but fast and still usable for distraction, getting points and setting up takedowns. His kicking game seems very advanced and technical.

It’sa very sneaky clever style. One weakness I would say is that if you realize as an opponent that he cant generate power with his punches you start to ignore them and they loose their distracting and keeping the opponent out of reach abilty and you can counter right through them. Thats what Cody did to Cruz.

I agree. However, I do think he has good striking for mma. Same with his bjj. He seems to be able to implement both well into his mma sparring but he relies a lot on his speed. He is technical though and his stuff works but it’s not going to be fundamentally correct from a boxing or Muay Thai perspective but that’s ok.

I like his stuff and bought his instructional. It’s good. It’s different but I like some of the things he shows even though I’m slow. I don’t really train striking anymore but it’s fun to work on some of the combos on my own. I’m mostly a grappler now a days


I also heard he is retired from mma and focus mostly on training and teaching. I think he just wanted to test himself and knows he isn’t going to be the best so he never pursued it that far
 
In regards to the claim the dude he fought in ONE ‘not being very good’…what classifies as being good then?

I’d have to say if you’re in ONE at the very least you qualify as ‘pretty good’ as the bare minimum
 
Jeff is a good fighter

He spars good guys, he also spars beginners.

Quite a few of his sparring videos are of him sparring or demonstrating techniques being used in sparring against guys he's obviously much better than/beginners

He's a good fighter but his success is off his YouTube channel not fighting.

He mastered the algorithm.

How to do "cool move" by "current popular fighter ”

Watch me smash noobs in sparring

Your average person is unable to recognize the skill difference in videos such as this

https://youtube.com/shorts/M4z7vFrFeRo?feature=share
 
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Jeff is a good fighter

He spars good guys, he also spars beginners.

Quite a few of his sparring videos are of him sparring or demonstrating techniques being used in sparring against guys he's obviously much better than/beginners

He's a good fighter but his success is off his YouTube channel not fighting.

He mastered the algorithm.

How to do "cool move" by "current popular fighter ”

Watch me smash noobs in sparring

Your average person is unable to recognize the skill difference in videos such as this

https://youtube.com/shorts/M4z7vFrFeRo?feature=share
this reminds me of that one Muay Thai influencer dude who made his name by sweeping newbies all over his gym
 
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this reminds me of that one Muay Thai influencer dude who made his name by sweeping newbies all over his gym

Im not sure who this is but totally believe it. The whole online video thing has gotten outa control. Changed quite a bit in the past few years.
 
In regards to the claim the dude he fought in ONE ‘not being very good’…what classifies as being good then?

I’d have to say if you’re in ONE at the very least you qualify as ‘pretty good’ as the bare minimum


Not true. One isn't the UFC.

They picked a opponent the famous youtube can beat.

Not everyone is good in big orgs. That guy was brought in just for Chan to show up.

Think CM Punk and his opponent.
 
He is 31 years old and he is 4-1 in MMA, from what I see.
He fights once every 2 or 4 years.

His opponents' records are:
0-2
0-2
0-4
3-3

Probably he will not make a career in MMA, but good thing he has that YT chanel, where he asks strangers in NY to punch him and he spars with Kung Fu Shaolin Master.

I prefer to watch Joe Valtellini or Gabriel Varga's channels.
Bazooka Joe has 6 times less subscribers, but he doesn't fight with Kung Fu Shaolin Master.
Jeff is a good fighter

He spars good guys, he also spars beginners.

Quite a few of his sparring videos are of him sparring or demonstrating techniques being used in sparring against guys he's obviously much better than/beginners

He's a good fighter but his success is off his YouTube channel not fighting.

He mastered the algorithm.

How to do "cool move" by "current popular fighter ”

Watch me smash noobs in sparring

Your average person is unable to recognize the skill difference in videos such as this

https://youtube.com/shorts/M4z7vFrFeRo?feature=share


Yeah he's a youtube who did a little fighting.

Almost like a guy who used to have a few amy box fights. However he stays in shape. But it's for youtube he got no ambitions to compete ad put it to the test. Vs legit competition.

More power to him. He's making decent money of youtube. He didn't do anything wrong.

Just striking noobs are more impressed by it then it really is. That's also half the point of it.
 
Not true. One isn't the UFC.

They picked a opponent the famous youtube can beat.

Not everyone is good in big orgs. That guy was brought in just for Chan to show up.

Think CM Punk and his opponent.
And yet CM Punk could still beat at least 80% of active MMA fighters.

There’s little business sense in paying crappy fighters, especially for one off fights.
 
Yeah he's a youtube who did a little fighting.

Almost like a guy who used to have a few amy box fights. However he stays in shape. But it's for youtube he got no ambitions to compete ad put it to the test. Vs legit competition.

More power to him. He's making decent money of youtube. He didn't do anything wrong.

Just striking noobs are more impressed by it then it really is. That's also half the point of it.
He has a pro record of 4-1 that’s not a bad record, I would be interested in comparing your professional record with his.
 
And yet CM Punk could still beat at least 80% of active MMA fighters.

There’s little business sense in paying crappy fighters, especially for one off fights.


Cm Punk would lose to almost any amateur, he's not talented
 
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