Media *** Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou Post Fight Discussion MEGATHREAD ***

How does the fight go?


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Somewhat but I guess I was more embarrassed by Fury looking worse that ever physically as well as technically.
 
go back in his career a bit. he had surgery on that arm. started knocking people dead after that. kind of interesting.

Huh. Joe Frazier said his ferocious left hook was because a childhood injury didn't let him straighten that arm completely.
 
Everyone - from fans to experts to commentators - said Ngannou had zero chance to win. I personslly tipped Fury to win by KO in the third. Why did we all have it so wrong?! I genuinely want to understand.

Common claims included:

- Fury will win whatever round he chooses to win
- Fury will make Ngannou look silly
- Ngannou looks TERRIBLE on pads and can't box
- Ngannou won't have power in boxing gloves

Turns out Ngannou wasnt phased by anything Fury did, even the illegal elbow he threw, which was by far his best shot.

Fury and all of boxing were just humiliated by a guy in his first boxing fight after over two years lay-off against one of the supposed all time greats.

Its abundantly clear that in a real fight Ngannou or any MMA guy smokes him. Ngannou was only using 10% of his weapons (no elbows kicks knees takedowns, clinch, grappling, submissions etc etc etc)

But why and how was Ngannou able to have so much success in Furys sport, even with 90% of his skillset taken away?

It's just embarrassing...
 
If Fury had just shortened up that punch and turned it over it would have done real damage. Not sure why he did that.
Because like most boxers he doesn't know how to throw a real elbow. You need muay Thai for that.
 
Wilder, the guy who Fury tko'd twice? Ok.

Wilders body type and the way he KOs much much better boxer while being 40-70 lbs lighter on top of that having the boxing skills of a BJJ guy makes him "legit". What makes him even more amazing is that he barely or never did any strong man stuff which is strange ... 9/10 modern punchers focus on that.

Hes maybe not legit in a conventional way of measuring success but if we dont ignore context and rate him as a KO artist, hes the only legit and most unique puncher the modern era has produced and ive got very high standards.
 
The Vegas odds were -2000 for Fury. Ngannou definitely impressed.
 
The only person Jon is beating on the feet these days is his wife after a bender of coke and hookers. Fury woulda slept him.


After tonight I have no doubt Jones would beat Ngannou and Fury on the same night.
 
... And yet the world of boxing will look away like they always do for Fury's dirty tactics.

Ngannou knew he had to ko fury to win. Boxing and the Saudis would have never had allowed him to win as that would have destrpued the credibility of boxing vs mma and the fury-usyk fight and ngannou couldn't even complain post fight because he needed to stay on the Saudi good side to stay on their money train for future fights.
 
To be fair, that's going to be the problem for PFL.

With massive investment often comes massive outside influence


100mm is absolutely nothing for SA.

In a long format interview this summer, Ari explained the Saudi's were looking to invest ~80 billion in sports/entertainment properties.

That size investment in PFL is nothing to them. If they make a serious play (see: LIV golf) it will be a different story. MMA could get interesting really fast if that happens.
 
Francis looked like he was made of steel in there and it showed
Well, that he always does.
Dude's always around 255 and ripped. This time he was a record 272 an still ripped.
Like me, he probably can't go inside a bank or airport without beeps. In my case it's a titanium prothesis, but still. Same thing.
 
People always remember the last fight. People see Fury KOing Whyte and Wilder and think thats who he is. This fight was more typical of who Fury really is. He's aways been the boring boxer, his opponent makes the fight.
 
Fury team expect Francis to try 100% on every punch so he will tire by 2 round. But Mike who is coaching him knows that and have Francis throw 60% power and body shots to Fury. These took their toll on Fury in the long run and converse Francis energy till round 10. Mike is a very good coach
Converse energy is real.
 
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