Media *** Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou Post Fight Discussion MEGATHREAD ***

[luckyshot]

You can't train an eye gouge, it's all theoretical. You can train the sports that make up MMA and then add that theoretical knowledge in and use MMA to gouge eyes.

Like Jon Jones.

 

[Xoleth]

Why am I not on that list?
Or all the other sherdoggers?

 

[burningspear]

shill list

 

[KOPPE]

well well look what the cat dragged in
@Corrado Soprano how do you feel about a 0-0 mma guy dropping the best boxer in your "superior" sport?

 

[surgeyou1]

That's why he won with wrestling?

Yes? Gane has bad TDD. You don't need explosive lateral movement to take him down.

 

[FloydMayweatherMMA]

It was close, but Ngannou won that fight injured and showed new skills whilst doing it.

The back to back L's against Stipe and BB seem to have been a wake up call. He still has the power and looks of a comic book hero, but has shown a willingness to learn and improve to go with his iron will. I hope we get another MMA fight out of him but if not, he's had a memorable career.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

LOL - UFC shills trying HARD today. Just no guys. Be a man, and let the real GOAT have his moment. Stop with the jealous ex-girlfriend vibes. Ngannou smoked out the HW division, massively KO'd teh GrEaTeST BoXeR StIpE, and then shat all over the UFC.

 

[ChimRichalds]

Fine, the correct statement would be, recent events did not affect the truthfulness of Jones’s statement

It was never a truthful statement.

 

[prikoke]

Not to be a UFC apologist or anything, but the UFC gave Ngannou the platform to build his popularity allowing him to fight a top boxer like Fury. If he were to come into boxing from the streets he'd probably be fighting some can in a bingo hall somewhere..

Well, yes, but Ngannou and a thousand other fighters gave Dana the platform to be a near billionaire and the UFC the ways to become a multi-billion dollar company. Doubt Dana would have amounted to much otherwise, he wasn't exactly making inroads in business before the UFC.

It's a symbiotic relationship, except the UFC are too greedy and paying their fighters an unfairly low portion of the profits.

 

[RoyJonesJr]

Except Ngannou LOST the fight.

I don't want to have to use "knuckle draggers" to describe the MMA fanbase, but you really have no choice.

Here are the facts:

Mercer was 0-0 in MMA when he knocked out 24-5 Tim Sylvia (In the first round, mind you). Both former champs in their respective sport.

Ngannou was 0-0 in Boxing when he LOST by split decision to 33-0-1 Tyson Fury. Both former (current) champs in their respective sport.

Ngannou's boxing record currently is 0-1. Tyson Fury's boxing record is 34-0-1.

knuckle draggers, who are also deeply antisocial, are flooding the boxing forum bragging about a split decision loss.

Dont play dumb

You know your boy got embarrassed by a first time boxer against the arguably greatest HW of the new generation

Those shots Fury threw had Wilder out, Francis just walked through them and dropped Fury

The fight shouldn't have even been competitive, at all

Even if Fury wanted to carry it should have been obvious, but it wasnt

 

[swarrrm]

The weasel is a dirtbag

 

[IloveTHIS]

intent has a lot to do with it, as we saw with the fury fight today, some people are just not temperamentally suited to certain things. As I read about Wilt Chamberlain once being a gentle giant and falling short of his potential in basketball because of it, "we're all victims of our personalities". I really don't think just anyone has it in them to poke out someone's eyes even though it's so simple. Hell, recently, in my town, we've had a ton of carjackings that were rebuffed because the criminal pointed the gun and was told to no. Well, good for the guy who's car they were trying to get but the point is, not everyone has it in them to be violent. You don't know until it's time to pull the trigger. In the case of the bodybuilder i mentioned, he had rage problems, most likely excacerbated by the roid use and just daily stress.

In the early days of the UFC, I used to be on forums where pro mma fighters would describe some real fight gone awry, I think the guy got his ear ripped off or some shit. Sport and life and death are not the same and they aren't really meant to be. Guys who intentionally maim their opponents have gotten banned out of mma as they should be.

Is it easy? I don't know, it could be if someone puts himself in the wrong position, it just isn't that hard to bite, to gouge or grab an appendage. I used to know a navy seal who showed me some very basic techniques, I told him, "that takes all the art out of it" and he shrugged and said, "that's what they taught us". This guy also claimed he'd kill an mma fighter, maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. Again, the intent might be so different that there's no comparison. And of course, forget about adding knives and guns into it. Someone who's killed someone already is gonna be able to do it with less hesitance the next time more than likely. And most boxers who've killed become more docile afterwards in the ring. Intent is totally different. And no, it's nothing to brag or be proud of. I'm of the belief that what we do marks our souls. You don't get away from that no matter who you are or whatever the motive.

Loooool

 

[JustforBROCK]

It was a fix :'D How people don't understand the whole thing was staged is beyond me.

People who cry conspiracy, scripted. Fixed etc are the kind of people who fuck there lives up with literally every choice they make and then say 'theyve got it out for me!'

 

[Pequeño Corey]

It turns out, Ngannou has a very big Corey.

 

[Sweater of AV]

But they are right,Francis had a chance to make a legacy at HW but instead he is 0-1 at boxing

You doing alright, little guy?



Knew you'd be shitting your diapers all over the place. Fantastic stuff.

 

[TheMadHatter]

they held that hybrid mma/boxing event called triad. the mma fighters wound up winning, mainly because they were far superior in the clinch. i agree it is more likely that an "upset" of this proportion happens at heavyweight, but it isnt unreasonable to think it happens at other weight classes. anderson silva beat a former world champ when he was well past his prime.

 

[prikoke]

Everybody reasonable thought Fury would have outclassed Francis. It's not on "everybody", it's on Fury for fucking up his preparation.

 

[DjolexMTL]

Here's another important point: Ngannou arguably won a boxing match against Fury, while Gane outstruck Ngannou clearly when they fought.

Ngannou had 1 knee, you're an airhead

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

What Jones said is still true.

Wrong, Irish

 

[kuroro]

Ngannou's chin saved him. his power is big, but nothing Fury hasn't seen before. it is Ngannous ability to eat shots like nothing and keeping going forward with heat of his own that got in Fury's head.

fury barely landed shit in the first place other than that blatant elbow.