Social How did your Thanksgiving political discussions with family go?

[koquerelle]

Well, if insulting a stranger makes you feel better about your miserable life

lol
Passive aggressive Jack strikes again.

 

[Jack V Savage]

lol
Passive aggressive Jack strikes again.

Did you read the exchange? You're another guy who seems to get off on being unpleasant to people. I think it's pretty sad. I'm sure it comes from a place of pain.

 

[blaseblase]

You said the DNC. I just pointed out that the DNC has no power here, and now you're flipping to "influential Democrats." Who?

Lol are you arguing the DNC isn't influential? It's literally their official committee to determine the nominee, dumbass.

Voters prefer Biden to any other candidates, and he has, in fact, been a great president.

The majority of Democrats do not want Biden to run again

If anyone wants to run against him or tell him not to run, they are free to do that.

Yeah, that will surely make a difference when the DNC and liberal media ecosystem is supporting Biden.

There's no "them" that you can appeal to here. Your assumption that everyone agrees with you is simply not accurate.

I never implied that everyone agrees with me. I'm talking about the voters and how the DNC is failing them. Again, the majority of voters do not want Biden to run again. Everyone other than the brainless shills like you acknowledge he is too old and a bad candidate.

Really?

Well, if insulting a stranger makes you feel better about your miserable life, I'm happy to be the target.

Yeah because you've never insulted anyone on this forum.

Let's be real here. You don't venture outside this subforum and you don't make any posts here that aren't either arguing with conservatives or with liberals who disagree with you. Unlike you I also talk MMA on here. I post in the Mayberry. I have a life outside of political disagreements. You don't.

 

[blaseblase]

The DNC literally could just nominate someone other than Biden. They won't of course.

 

[weed]

we spoke of how IG has become the "gore-ner" of social media. like seriously - I saw JFK's assassination for the first time, digitally enhanced, a guy getting crushed by a super train, Gazans rounded up & surrounded by IDF soldiers who beat & executed a Palestinian mother in front of her children, a whole bunch of Ring camera recorded deaths. a guy getting shot point blank in the eyes/face through the visor area of the motorcycle helmet he was wearing, that protected him from the headshots that were fired upon him prior, a suspended scaffold on a skyscraper being tossed around like a piece of paper with workers one by one falling to their deaths after gripping on for their dear lives. so much more. oh shit, I forgot - the speeding motorcycle deaths are fucking brutal holy fuck. one rider crashed into another, where the driver flew off the overpass & down 100+ feet.

I keep selecting 'not interested' too, shit doesn't help. it was the same for others too, when the fuck did this happen to IG??

 

[koquerelle]

Did you read the exchange? You're another guy who seems to get off on being unpleasant to people. I think it's pretty sad. I'm sure it comes from a place of pain.

You told him he has a miserable life, but I'm the unpleasant one.
Don't change my sanctimonious sherbro!

 

[Jack V Savage]

Lol are you arguing the DNC isn't influential? It's literally their official committee to determine the nominee, dumbass.

It's an observation that they aren't influential. Not a controversial one (and note how you immediately backed off it, though when you were reminded, you felt the need to defend yourself because you are constitutionally incapable of admitting error). They "determine the nominee" by organizing the convention. Nominees are chosen by votes.

The majority of Democrats do not want Biden to run again

Again, they are free to vote for other candidates.

Yeah, that will surely make a difference when the DNC and liberal media ecosystem is supporting Biden.

What liberal media ecosystem? The MSM definitely has been very anti-Biden. There aren't any liberal alt-media sources that have comparable reach.

I never implied that everyone agrees with me. I'm talking about the voters and how the DNC is failing them. Again, the majority of voters do not want Biden to run again. Everyone other than the brainless shills like you acknowledge he is too old and a bad candidate.

By definition, I guess? Again, I think you'll be very disappointed with four more years of competent governance.

Yeah because you've never insulted anyone on this forum.

Let's be real here. You don't venture outside this subforum and you don't make any posts here that aren't either arguing with conservatives or with liberals who disagree with you. Unlike you I also talk MMA on here. I post in the Mayberry. I have a life outside of political disagreements. You don't.

I prefer serious discussion, and I have certainly never talked about how I plan to insult someone because of world events not going my way. That's pretty pathetic, you gotta admit. And, thankfully, Sherdog is not my whole life. And unlike you, I am capable of discussing things without resorting to childish insults.

 

[Jack V Savage]

You told him he has a miserable life, but I'm the unpleasant one.
Don't change my sanctimonious sherbro!

Am I wrong? Be honest.

You reached out to me privately asking for help, which I gave you. But you still get off posting nasty stuff to me because we have some political disagreements.

 

[BFoe]

Luckily there wasn’t any. My gf’s family are great people, but very much warped by FOX and Newsmax when it comes to politics. They have a tendency to just throw out fucked up political comments, because of course their comments aren’t fucked up in their minds and it feels safe for them to do it because most everyone else at the gathering agrees with them. I think they’ve finally gotten the hint That my gf and I do not agree with them, and fortunately politics didn’t come up. We all had a really good time actually.

 

[blaseblase]

It's an observation that they aren't influential. Not a controversial one (and note how you immediately backed off it, though when you were reminded, you felt the need to defend yourself because you are constitutionally incapable of admitting error). They "determine the nominee" by organizing the convention. Nominees are chosen by votes.

Interesting how you describe immediately challenging you as "backing off". This literally is the committee that determines who the next Democratic nominee will be. And you are somehow trying to argue that they aren't influential.

Again, they are free to vote for other candidates.

This doesn't work as a response. The majority of Democrats do not want Biden to be the nominee.

What liberal media ecosystem? The MSM definitely has been very anti-Biden. There aren't any liberal alt-media sources that have comparable reach.

This is complete nonsense and false.

By definition, I guess? Again, I think you'll be very disappointed with four more years of competent governance.

You're betting this on Biden? The guy with the worst approval rating ever? That's who you're running with?

I prefer serious discussion, and I have certainly never talked about how I plan to insult someone because of world events not going my way. That's pretty pathetic, you gotta admit. And, thankfully, Sherdog is not my whole life. And unlike you, I am capable of discussing things without resorting to childish insults.

Again, you only post here in this subforum. You don't talk MMA. You don't talk grappling. You don't talk video games. You don't shoot the breeze about random shit. This is your life. And you resort to childish insults on the regular. You have no credibility for this dumbass talking point you chose to introduce.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Interesting how you describe immediately challenging you as "backing off". This literally is the committee that determines who the next Democratic nominee will be. And you are somehow trying to argue that they aren't influential.

No, Democratic nominees are chosen by primary elections, with state committees setting the rules for delegate selection. The DNC has no power there. And you backed off by switching from "the DNC" to "influential Democrats."

This doesn't work as a response. The majority of Democrats do not want Biden to be the nominee.

But it does, though. There are primary elections, and the winner will be the nominee. What you want is for the people's choice to step down because you don't agree with them. Unfortunately for you, the process is democratic.

This is complete nonsense and false.

What "liberal media ecosystem" are you referring to, then? And you disagree that the MSM has been very anti-Biden?

You're betting this on Biden? The guy with the worst approval rating ever? That's who you're running with?

Again, we'll see. Biden is basically a lock to win the primary, and any general election is a tossup, but he's better than even IMO. I guess that means you're going to be disappointed either way, but you can make yourself feel better by childishly insulting a stranger.

Again, you only post here in this subforum. You don't talk MMA. You don't talk grappling. You don't talk video games. You don't shoot the breeze about random shit. This is your life. And you resort to childish insults on the regular.

Yeah. I don't care about video games. I talked about MMA exclusively for most of my first decade here, and then it got old. Still talk MMA with people in real life. And I shoot the breeze about random shit here sometimes, though yeah, if I'm on a message board, I prefer more serious discussions. Don't know what to tell you, man. Sorry, I guess?

 

[Mr Holmes]

we spoke of how IG has become the "gore-ner" of social media. like seriously - I saw JFK's assassination for the first time, digitally enhanced, a guy getting crushed by a super train, Gazans rounded up & surrounded by IDF soldiers who beat & executed a Palestinian mother in front of her children, a whole bunch of Ring camera recorded deaths. a guy getting shot point blank in the eyes/face through the visor area of the motorcycle helmet he was wearing, that protected him from the headshots that were fired upon him prior, a suspended scaffold on a skyscraper being tossed around like a piece of paper with workers one by one falling to their deaths after gripping on for their dear lives. so much more. oh shit, I forgot - the speeding motorcycle deaths are fucking brutal holy fuck. one rider crashed into another, where the driver flew off the overpass & down 100+ feet.

I keep selecting 'not interested' too, shit doesn't help. it was the same for others too, when the fuck did this happen to IG??

The algorithm is out of control. I once clicked on a reel of a 600lb woman because I was in disbelief that someone could get that big, and then I spammed with fat fetish posts for like 2 months.

 

[Belaya Smert]

Step sister got diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer at 38 years old last month. So we didn’t even bring it up.

 

[NoSmilez]

Same shit. I annoy both sides of my family. They are either really MAGA or goofy tankie.

 

[BFoe]

Step sister got diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer at 38 years old last month. So we didn’t even bring it up.

I’m very sorry to hear that, man. That’s terrible.

 

[BFoe]

The DNC literally could just nominate someone other than Biden. They won't of course.

That doesn’t seem very plausible. Biden is the incumbent, obviously. What message would the DNC send if they nominated someone else? “We think the guy we told you to vote for last time sucks so bad that you should totally trust us when we tell you to vote for someone else this time”?

 

[Jack V Savage]

That doesn’t seem very plausible. Biden is the incumbent, obviously. What message would the DNC send if they nominated someone else? “We think the guy we told you to vote for last time sucks so bad that you should totally trust us when we tell you to vote for someone else this time”?

More than that, the DNC has zero power in the matter. There actually are primary elections. It's just that no one takes them seriously when there's an incumbent president. In 2020, Bill Weld (among others, but he did the best) ran against Trump. Obama beat out John Wolfe Jr. among others in 2012. Bill Wyatt was the No. 2 vote-getter in the 2004 Republican primaries.

And the DNC is supposed to be neutral, by their charter, though the WH controls it when there is a sitting Democratic president. So either way, there's no authority here.

But for the broader issue, if Biden were to step aside, that would cause chaos. And there's just no reason for it. Polls this far out have very little predictive value, and by any reasonable measure, Biden has been a very good president.

 

[BFoe]

More than that, the DNC has zero power in the matter. There actually are primary elections. It's just that no one takes them seriously when there's an incumbent president. In 2020, Bill Weld (among others, but he did the best) ran against Trump. Obama beat out John Wolfe Jr. among others in 2012. Bill Wyatt was the No. 2 vote-getter in the 2004 Republican primaries.

And the DNC is supposed to be neutral, by their charter, though the WH controls it when there is a sitting Democratic president. So either way, there's no authority here.

But for the broader issue, if Biden were to step aside, that would cause chaos. And there's just no reason for it. Polls this far out have very little predictive value, and by any reasonable measure, Biden has been a very good president.

Generally agree about primaries and the DNC. Biden has been… fine. With a year to go until the election, I don’t know if it would totally be chaos if he stepped aside. But obviously it’s rare, and when LBJ chose not to run for reelection the Dems ended up losing the election of 1968. Personally, I’d like to see him step aside in favor of some younger Dem candidates. I think we historically do better with youthful, energetic candidates (JFK of course, Clinton, Obama). I would think that someone like Newsom or Buttigieg would be a better candidate than Biden.

 

[MicroBrew]

No one talked politics. My family is very apolitical, so are relatives and friends.
My family barely even votes, only doing so every 4 years.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Generally agree about primaries and the DNC. Biden has been… fine. With a year to go until the election, I don’t know if it would totally be chaos if he stepped aside. But obviously it’s rare, and when LBJ chose not to run for reelection the Dems ended up losing the election of 1968. Personally, I’d like to see him step aside in favor of some younger Dem candidates. I think we historically do better with youthful, energetic candidates (JFK of course, Clinton, Obama). I would think that someone like Newsom or Buttigieg would be a better candidate than Biden.

I think he's been much more than fine, but OK. I think concern about his ability to campaign is legitimate. Great president, never been good at campaigning. I strongly disagree about Newsom or Buttigieg, though, as I think they would be much weaker candidates (and separately, while I am extremely impressed with Buttigieg, I would have serious concerns about his lack of experience and I doubt he would be as effective as Biden has been in office). Whitmer, Klobuchar, Pritzker, or Beshear would be stronger candidates outside the factor of the dropout.