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International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VI

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You didn't say that but argued it a few sentences later?

Where is the IDF head quarters?

Why would Israel have the justification to kill of Hamas in the first place?

You don't get to just kill a whole group/organisation because they responded to your aggression.

Uhhh, yes you do. You render the leadership moot.

"You don't win a war by dying for your country... You win a war by making the other B@stard die for HIS!"

Gen. George S. Patton
 
A video everyone needs to see to understand where the conflict really comes from


You think a 5 minute video is sufficient enough to explain what Zionism is?

And since you're posting a video of Israelis celebrating the war in Gaza, I'll post one of Hamas sympathizers celebrating the massacre to balance things out:

 
imagine the outrage if any officials of any country would talk like that during a war, let alone prime ministers ministers and parliament members. Now see how some people will defend this or say it's"isolated drivel, totally not the official Israeli position"

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imagine the outrage if any officials of any country would talk like that during a war, let alone prime ministers ministers and parliament members. Now see how some people will defend this or say it's"isolated drivel, totally not the official Israeli position"

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Yeah, keep talking. Two can play this game:

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Yeah, keep talking. Two can play this game:

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Yeah and that's wrong. See how easy it is for me ? I actually want peace.

Now keep not addressing the actual atrocities that israeli soldiers are actually doing in reality while filming themselves mocking the dead children they're killing.

You're exactly the type of person I was talking about, you're so endoctrinared can't criticize israel even for the worst atrocities and you're proving it.
 
A video everyone needs to see to understand where the conflict really comes from



@KnightTemplar what's funny about the video ? are you actually able to articulate intelligently why you find this a laughing matter or are you going to be limited to quote some Hollywood movie line again ?
 
Yeah and that's wrong. See how easy it is for me ? I actually want peace.

Now keep not addressing the actual atrocities that israeli soldiers are actually doing in reality while filming themselves mocking the dead children they're killing.

You're exactly the type of person I was talking about, you're so endoctrinared can't criticize israel even for the worst atrocities and you're proving it.
Pot, meet kettle.

Hey, I want peace too. But guess who keeps breaking the ceasefires? Guess who keeps sending their suicide bombers to wreak havoc in civilian areas. Guess who are the ones that keep calling for the genocide of the Jews?

Who are the scum that recorded themselves performing the most heinous acts against civilians that the rest of the civilized world has ever seen (decapitation, immolation, rape, necrophilia, mockery of the dead and wounded)? Who were the ones that were playing Hot Potato with a pair of severed breasts taken from a woman who was being raped? Who were the ones that raped women, killed them, and set their corpse on fire? Who the ones that abducted women, killed them, and paraded their mangled, contorted, nude bodies to be openly defiled and spat upon? The videos are all out there. I've seen them.

What's your stance on these atrocious acts? Do you condemn them or do you see them as "acts of resistance?"
 
Yeah and that's wrong. See how easy it is for me ? I actually want peace.

Now keep not addressing the actual atrocities that israeli soldiers are actually doing in reality while filming themselves mocking the dead children they're killing.

You're exactly the type of person I was talking about, you're so endoctrinared can't criticize israel even for the worst atrocities and you're proving it.
Didnt this guy post an image calling for all Muslims to be expelled from the US?
 
@KnightTemplar what's funny about the video ? are you actually able to articulate intelligently why you find this a laughing matter or are you going to be limited to quote some Hollywood movie line again ?

I just find it amusing you actually expect people to give a shit what happens to Hamas or their supporters. <45>

It's kind of adorable, really. Like a kid believing in Christmas. Or an adult believing in Democracy. ;)
 
I just find it amusing you actually expect people to give a shit what happens to Hamas or their supporters. <45>

It's kind of adorable, really. Like a kid believing in Christmas. Or an adult believing in Democracy. ;)

At no point did I mention talk ou even think about Hamas. The overwhelming majority of the murdered Palestinians are civilians, mostly kids, and that's an undeniable reality ar this point. Why do you find it funny ? Dehumanizing them by not ever mentioning them like they're not humans and shifting the point about "what about khamas" is your thing ?
 
At no point did I mention talk ou even think about Hamas. The overwhelming majority of the murdered Palestinians are civilians, mostly kids, and that's an undeniable reality ar this point. Why do you find it funny ? Dehumanizing them by not ever mentioning them like they're not humans and shifting the point about "what about khamas" is your thing ?

So blame Hamas. They brought the fire and brimstone down on their own people. Don't expect Team Israel guys like me to give a shit. :rolleyes:
 
Uhhh, yes you do. You render the leadership moot.

"You don't win a war by dying for your country... You win a war by making the other B@stard die for HIS!"

Gen. George S. Patton
Or in this case Israel wins the war by starving women and children until the ethnic clensing of gaza is complete

Only blind zionist zealots believe Israel can defeat hamas without the total genocide of the gaza strip

Israel and its supporters in teh west (unfortunatly) will reap what its sows.
 
You think a 5 minute video is sufficient enough to explain what Zionism is?

And since you're posting a video of Israelis celebrating the war in Gaza, I'll post one of Hamas sympathizers celebrating the massacre to balance things out:


So its obvious that Zionists in Israel adn the West are as evil as Hamas. Finally some logic in this thread.
 
Hello All,

First post and not an easy subject to broach clearly... While I am and will always be on the side of the innocent who suffer in these situations, I do want to ask an honest question. Can any people who consider themselves Muslim and follow Islam ever accept the idea of a Jewish state?

The hatred and eradication of the Jews is clearly present in the teachings of Muhammad and thus I have trouble imagining a scenario where Israel could ever be accepted unless the teachings of Muhammad are pushed aside and the hadiths on the subject disregarded once and for all.

If we look at Sahih al-Bukhari for example, we have the following (there are others, but this one could not be clearer):

"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

I just don’t see how peace can ever come about if something like what I just quoted above is accepted and wanted to be applied to follow the teachings of Muhammad.
 
So its obvious that Zionists in Israel adn the West are as evil as Hamas. Finally some logic in this thread.
Really? I haven't seen nor heard stories about Zionists decapitating women and babies, performing necrophiliac acts with freshly murdered corpses, blowing themselves up in civilian areas, committing 'honor killings' in the name of God/Yahweh/G-d, threatening to behead those who insult their prophets, throwing homosexuals off of rooftops, and committing whatever cowardly, chickenshit heinous acts their religions or ideologies command them to perform, inshallah.

Israel's only sin is being the only shining beacon of democracy and modernity in the autocratic, backward shithole that is the rest of the Middle East.
 
Really? I haven't seen nor heard stories about Zionists decapitating women and babies, performing necrophiliac acts with freshly murdered corpses, blowing themselves up in civilian areas, committing 'honor killings' in the name of God/Yahweh/G-d, threatening to behead those who insult their prophets, throwing homosexuals off of rooftops, and committing whatever cowardly, chickenshit heinous acts their religions or ideologies command them to perform, inshallah.

Israel's only sin is being the only shining beacon of democracy and modernity in the autocratic, backward shithole that is the rest of the Middle East.
Israel is responsible for 70 yers of colonization and ethnic cleansing which is coming to a head.

They kidnap approx 700 Palestinians a year. They murder and build illegal settlemen ts in WB. They have milled 1% of gaza civilians and possible as many as 5% fo gaza civilians killed+missing.

Half of 2 million civilians are starving. The destruction in gaza is worse than Dresden in WW2.

Israel and zionists have a propganda campaing for the past 70 years to cover up their crimes. This is startign to fall apart.

So yeah tell yourself zionists do not cut off heads. Good for you.
 
Israel is responsible for 70 yers of colonization and ethnic cleansing which is coming to a head.

They kidnap approx 700 Palestinians a year. They murder and build illegal settlemen ts in WB. They have milled 1% of gaza civilians and possible as many as 5% fo gaza civilians killed+missing.

Half of 2 million civilians are starving. The destruction in gaza is worse than Dresden in WW2.

Israel and zionists have a propganda campaing for the past 70 years to cover up their crimes. This is startign to fall apart.

So yeah tell yourself zionists do not cut off heads. Good for you.
Israelis are colonizing the land that historically have belonged to them for millennia?

Are you aware that only the Southern Levantine people are indigenous to this area, which includes all Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, Bukhari, Mountain to name a few), Samaritans, and Palestinians?

Yes, the Palestinians actually share the same Levantine DNA as the Jews and Samaritans. In terms of distance, the Palestinians are most closely related to the Samaritans. You know what's even more shocking? Palestinians are actually descendants of Samaritans who converted to Christianity or Islam after the Muslim Arab invaders conquered the area. Both the Samaritans and Jews believe in similar religions and are descendants of ancient Israelites.

The real colonizers are the Arabs.
 
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