Social Gina Carano sues Disney for wrongful termination, funded by Elon Musk

Islam Imamate said:
Idk why you'd lie when we can just go read nhbbear's post who is known for his race related posts and see that its dripping with white grievance politics as usual. I think he's probably a good guy at the individual level but nhbbear's boomer brain has been melted by the algorithm and all the race politics its fed him and its apparent to any WR regular.
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Am I reading the same thing? The purpose of his post had nothing to do with race issues. It was about Disney allowing certain actors with controversial statements go, but cancelling others.

And Loiosh's demand that he not talk about black issues is completely obnoxious and absurd. It reminds me of people trying to shut conversation down because the person levying an argument is a "cis white male."
 
Hog-train said:
Am I reading the same thing? The purpose of his post had nothing to do with race issues. It was about Disney allowing certain actors with controversial statements go, but cancelling others.
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If you really think it had nothing to do with race then maybe go reread it.
Hog-train said:
And Loiosh's demand that he not talk about black issues is completely obnoxious and absurd. It reminds me of people trying to shut conversation down because the person levying an argument is a "cis white male."
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nhbbear isn't just any poster, white grievance politics are a core feature of his posts for the least few years.

Also I find this ironic since your post was itself a demand that Loiosh not talk about race.
 
nhbbear said:
next time people are picking on you, don’t private message me and ask me to come in and defend you.
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I was being accused of hating cops. You know that isn't true, right? Have I ever shown law enforcement anything but respect? I suspect you even share my belief a lot of reform is required, but I never blame all officers for everything.
 
nhbbear said:
Disney is woke af. But Gina may have a case based upon all of the Disney scandals where they did not fire the actor that said or did certain things.

The girl that plays Shuri in black panther made anti-vax tweets and anti-trans comments, yet she was kept in the movie.

Pedro pascal made comments where he said trump supporters are Nazis and slave owners-he’s still there.

They just hired a director for a new Star Wars project that is a serious feminist and she said men deserve to be uncomfortable around her.

Mark ruffalo has made a shit ton of comments. First of all, he mourned Joesph Rosenbaum (a pedo that raped 5 children) after he was shot by rittenhouse. He said his friends called him “JoJo” here is the tweet “We come together to mourn the lives lost to the same racist system that devalues Black lives and devalued the lives of Anthony and JoJo”.

Basically, Disney has the right to hire or fire whom they want. It’s not a matter of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is protection from the government, not your employer.

What Disney has shown us is that as long as you side with liberals, you can say what you want. Just don’t side with conservatives or trump and you will have a job.

Look at how long they kept Jonathon majors as an employee after his accusations and eventual conviction for domestic abuse. I don’t have an issue with waiting until someone is found guilty to fire them, but when you look at what Carano actually said compared to what others have said-firing her over some bullshit is weak af. But in the end, it is their choice and our choice not to watch the garbage they churn out. Disney is hypocritical. They keep some actors and fire others for saying similar things. What did Carano in was her siding with trump and daring to joke about her pronouns. Meanwhile, Letitia james(shuri) made actual anti-trans comments and kept her job, but then, she is a minority and Carson is a white female, which is second to last on the totem pole just above white men.
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I’m not following why you think that all those instances of other actors getting a pass suggests that she has a case. Everyone knows she was shit canned for her politics, and that’s exactly why she’ll lose, because legally Disney was entitled to do so. Political leaning is not a protected class under human rights legislation. This matter could go all the way to trial and Gina’s lawyer could get up and make this glorious closing argument reminiscent of Paul Newman in the verdict and summarize that the real reason Gina was fired was because she’s conservative. Meanwhile, in rebuttal Disney’s lawyer can just be like this:

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and then Disney wins the case.
 
Hog-train said:
Am I reading the same thing? The purpose of his post had nothing to do with race issues. It was about Disney allowing certain actors with controversial statements go, but cancelling others.

And Loiosh's demand that he not talk about black issues is completely obnoxious and absurd. It reminds me of people trying to shut conversation down because the person levying an argument is a "cis white male."
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I've always liked and respected him and lobbied hard to get him into a primarily liberal discord that was looking for more moderate to conservative voices. I was shut down as a result of the way he often talks about black people.
 
Islam Imamate said:
If you really think it had nothing to do with race then maybe go reread it.

nhbbear isn't just any poster, white grievance politics are a core feature of his posts for the least few years.

Also I find this ironic since your post was itself a demand that Loiosh not talk about race.
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I did reread it. You're clearly mischaracterizing it.

I know nhbbear talks about white grievance politics. My point is he's free to do so any time.

And when did I demand Loiosh not talk about race? I said his statement was absurd. You're grasping at straws.
 
JadeOwl said:
We can disagree on our value judgement of the content of her tweets. That’s perfectly valid.

But what makes my blood boil, and I think you and others here agree, is the sheer fucking entitlement of doubling down on doing something you have been warned about, not once, but twice before.

It bothers me more if something I read in the comments section of one of the articles about this news story of her suing is true. That Disney actually wanted to fire her after the second incident, but Favreau fought for her job and convinced them to give her another chance. If that’s true it shows a level of ungratefulness on her part that is truly astounding.
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Favreau and Pascal both went to bat for her, she consciously threw the game.
 
LOL at the intro. I wonder how many hundreds (thousands?) of $ an hour these lawyers are making for this?

INTRODUCTION A short time ago in a galaxy not so far away, Defendants made it clear that only one orthodoxy in thought, speech, or action was acceptable in their empire, and that those who dared to question or failed to fully comply would not be tolerated. And so it was with Carano. After two highly acclaimed seasons on The Mandalorian as Rebel ranger Cara Dune, Carano was terminated from her role as swiftly as her character’s peaceful home planet of Alderaan had been destroyed by the Death Star in an earlier Star Wars film. And all this because she dared voice her own opinions, on social media platforms and elsewhere, and stood up to the online bully mob who demanded her compliance with their extreme progressive ideology.

Defendants’ wrath over their employees’ social media posts also differed depending on sex. Even though “the Force is female,” Defendants chose to target a woman while looking the other way when it came to men. While Carano was fired, Defendants took no action against male actors who took equally or more vigorous and controversial positions on social media.

But the rule of law still reigns over the Defendants’ empire. And Carano has returned to demand that they be held accountable for their bullying, discriminatory, and retaliatory actions—actions that inflicted not only substantial emotional harm, but millions of dollars in lost income.
 
Law Talkin’ Guy said:
As an irl labour and employment lawyer I find this rather interesting. Frankly I don’t think she’s got much of a case here. Essentially the only thing she potentially has here is trying to prove that she was discriminated against as a woman, though I think she’ll be hard pressed to prove that. While it may be the case that some other male actors have “gotten away” with controversial social media posts, Disney can simply point to the actual amount of controversy her posts caused and the backlash. The more inflammatory the remarks, and the more people were hounding for her blood, the more Disney can just say that her comments were causing reputational harm to the organization, justifying the decision to terminate her, and nothing to do with gender discrimination.

On a side note I find it pretty obnoxious for Musk to offer to fund litigation on behalf of people terminated for shit posting on Twitter/X. It’s not a free speech issue. If an employee starts posting shit on social media that’s going to bring negative publicity to their employer’s business then the employer should be allowed to terminate them without fear of having to defend against a potentially meritless wrongful dismissal claim funded by Musk.
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Thank you. Florida is an employment at will state right? So unless her contract says she can o ly be fired for cause, wouldn't Disney have to right to terminate her for no reason or pretty much any reason that is not discrimination or retaliation?

Help me out here thanks.
 
Limeade said:
Thank you. Florida is an employment at will state right? So unless her contract says she can o ly be fired for cause, wouldn't Disney have to right to terminate her for no reason or pretty much any reason that is not discrimination or retaliation?

Help me out here thanks.
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More or less, but what does Florida have to do with anything? Hollywood is in California and that’s where she’s suing.
 
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