Crime United States faces serious national security threat

[ferrisjso]

Why does the President need to declassify it for it be discussed. I'd assume that everyone with appropriate clearance can already discuss it.

Because discussing it outside of a brief would involve staffers i think.

 

[panamaican]

Leaked out: Russia can shoot down our satellites.

Just saw this. Apparently, we've known about this for a year. I still don't know why it needs to be declassified for the appropriate parties to be able to discuss it.

 

[panamaican]

Because discussing it outside of a brief would involve staffers i think.

We're way outside of my knowledge set but can't they just grant people access to the information on an as needed basis. I'm saying that all wrong but I assume you know what I mean.

I can't imagine why we have to completely declassify something rather than simply grant the necessary individuals security clearance?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

People don't understand how far east the Donbass is and how absurdly unreasonable having it be part of NATO would be. It is closer to Stalingrad(furthest any western invader got into Russia) than it is to Lyiv in Western Ukraine. All these chuds are fearmongering about Ukraine being on NATOs doorstep when the opposite is much closer to the truth.


Ukraine is a fucking gigantic country that had borders made for use as a subdivision of the USSR. Those borders were never intended to become their own state even if we are acknowleding the seperate culture and history of the Ukranian people(they are Russias version of Austria).

We don't teach geography in schools anymore because it offers capitalism no benefit whatsoever but having a grasp of the world around you is very important.

There was no danger of Ukraine joining NATO without Russian aggression. They might have had some claim to Crimea and maybe other land but the time to clear that up was when the USSR collapsed and Ukraine became independent with recognized borders.

 

[ferrisjso]

We're way outside of my knowledge set but can't they just grant people access to the information on an as needed basis. I'm saying that all wrong but I assume you know what I mean.

I can't imagine why we have to completely declassify something rather than simply grant the necessary individuals security clearance?

I do not know I never worked on the Hill. Thats just what I thought when I heard that.

There are a lot of staffers I guess and they would be much more likely to leak material than the congresspeople themselves.

I do know the govt is wildly protective of information even if it objectively doesn't matter.

 

[ShadowRun]

What timing with all the money going out again

 

[panamaican]

I do not know I never worked on the Hill. Thats just what I thought when I heard that.

There are a lot of staffers I guess and they would be much more likely to leak material than the congresspeople themselves.

But why would that matter if he thinks it should be declassified anyway?

I get the importance of the issue, I'm just hung up on this "declassify" thing.

 

[N13]

Just saw this. Apparently, we've known about this for a year. I still don't know why it needs to be declassified for the appropriate parties to be able to discuss it.

We need to look past the appearances to find the real causes.

Why now? There is trouble in the financial markets in regards to bonds. I've discussed this in another thread. I'll give you the cliffs:

The Treasury/Federal Reserve have to raise money by selling bonds.
They need 2 trillion to finance the 2024 deficit. They need 8 trillion to refinance the expiring bond debt.
The last two bond auctions for 150 billion went no bid.
The BRICS nations are not buying US treasuries any more. They are selling, dedollarizing.
There is no way out of this, BUT a distraction would help cover this up. Something like a new or expanded war or terrorist attack.

In the meantime the Federal Reserve is the buyer and lender of last resort. They will monetize the debt. Inflation will go up like never before.

We have about 3 to 6 months before SHTF.

 

[Copper Burner]

We need to look past the appearances to find the real causes.

Why now? There is trouble in the financial markets in regards to bonds. I've discussed this in another thread. I'll give you the cliffs:

The Treasury/Federal Reserve have to raise money by selling bonds.
They need 2 trillion to finance the 2024 deficit. They need 8 trillion to refinance the expiring bond debt.
The last two bond auctions for 150 billion went no bid.
The BRICS nations are not buying US treasuries any more. They are selling, dedollarizing.
There is no way out of this, BUT a distraction would help cover this up. Something like a new war or terrorist attack.

In the meantime the Federal Reserve is the buyer and lender of last resort. They will monetize the debt. Inflation will go up like never before.

We have about 3 to 6 months before SHTF.

The dollar will collapse. The west is systematically being brought to it's knees in every way possible. It's all by design.

Who knows, maybe "Russia" will attack the power grid, a country wide civil war breaks out, Biden gets to put off the election due to martial law. America is toast.

 

[ferrisjso]

But why would that matter if he thinks it should be declassified anyway?

I get the importance of the issue, I'm just hung up on this "declassify" thing.

That congressman thinks it should be declassifield and is asking for that. Has the press secretary seconded that?

 

[panamaican]

That congressman thinks it should be declassifield and is asking for that. Has the press secretary seconded that?

I don't think I've read anything about anyone else seconding his position. Only his "So Congress and our allies can discuss it...". Which seems pointless to me, we don't need every random member of Congress discussing these things.

MTG, AOC, etc. what exactly are they going to add to a discussion regarding the international ramifications of Russia deploying satellite destroying weapons into outer space? To me, this is the exact type of thing you don't declassify so that we don't end up with politicians treating it like another thing to fundraise around.

 

[Natural Order]

You thought Space Force was a joke.

 

[panamaican]

We need to look past the appearances to find the real causes.

Why now? There is trouble in the financial markets in regards to bonds. I've discussed this in another thread. I'll give you the cliffs:

The Treasury/Federal Reserve have to raise money by selling bonds.
They need 2 trillion to finance the 2024 deficit. They need 8 trillion to refinance the expiring bond debt.
The last two bond auctions for 150 billion went no bid.
The BRICS nations are not buying US treasuries any more. They are selling, dedollarizing.
There is no way out of this, BUT a distraction would help cover this up. Something like a new or expanded war or terrorist attack.

In the meantime the Federal Reserve is the buyer and lender of last resort. They will monetize the debt. Inflation will go up like never before.

We have about 3 to 6 months before SHTF.

Can you link to something on the bond auction no bid?

 

[N13]

The dollar will collapse. The west is systematically being brought to it's knees in every way possible. It's all by design.

Who knows, maybe "Russia" will attack the power grid, a country wide civil war breaks out, Biden gets to put off the election due to martial law. America is toast.

Divine intervention is needed.

 

[AbominableJoman]

After the event (which could be many coordinated attacks), the country of origin of the terrorists will be identified quickly.

It's too late to prevent this as they are already inside the border.

 

[N13]

Can you link to something on the bond auction no bid?

Yes:

This covers it and some other issues. This is from today, but this is not new news. Well worth the time.

 

[AWilder]

I thought it was common knowledge that AT LEAST the USA, Russia and China had the capability to intercept and/or destroy satellites. Didn't China even have some satellite capturing device similar to one of the James Bond movies iirc?

 

[N13]

I thought it was common knowledge that AT LEAST the USA, Russia and China had the capability to intercept and/or destroy satellites. Didn't China even have some satellite capturing device similar to one of the James Bond movies iirc?

China has satellite based direct energy weapons.

 

[N13]

Fear porn for everyone. DEI baby.

 

[N13]

Can you link to something on the bond auction no bid?

If you do watch that, I'd like to know what you think. It's not for everyone.

He covers the bond issues early on, but there is much more.