Social University of Florida fires all DEI employees, halts contracts

[spamking]

Again, there are countless studies that research this topic that show students value diversity in their student body and staff and workers in diverse workplaces are more likely to stay with that employer, more productive, etc. You don't seem to be even attempting to argue that's not what research shows. You're not attempting to argue studies show people are unhappy in these environments.

It seems you're admitting the only place these divisions exist is in your head.

Again, in the REAL WORLD workers want to be in an environment where people do their jobs, and students want to be left alone to pursue their studies. If you honestly think shoving diversity down people's throats works and can't see that forcing the issue makes the workplace or learning environment better you have no real world experiences at all.

Diversity can be a good thing when it's "organic". Forcing it upon people often causes more issues that it was supposed to solve.

 

[spamking]

Literally only? And why wouldn't people get triggered by that? I do and I've only been here 10 years.

You get triggered by a confederate flag? Why?

 

[spamking]

Never once have I figured out what DEI people do other than post some bulletins in the workplace bathrooms and create HR issues.

Create and force people to take useless, time-wasting trainings. Don't forget about that worthless junk.

 

[BFoe]

The course sounds super objective.

As stupid as I think FL’s objections were, the creators of the course did make a bunch of changes in response to them. They removed the authors that got FL’s panties in a bunch, totally eliminated the Movement for Black Lives unit, scrubbed the Queer Studies unit that had you scurred earlier ITT beyond recognition and even removed the word “queer” altogether because you Don’t Say Gay in FL, after all

They added a bunch of new units too, that deal with music, theater, film, sports, and WW2. If you look at that syllabus from earlier and compare it to what you posted, you’ll see the differences. Additionally, they built in a whole extra week that students/teacher can use for a deeper dive on whatever they choose. If something happens in the news that’s relevant, they can do a massive deep-dive on it. If they feel the reading sources in a given topic aren’t objective or diverse enough, they can choose to explore that topic much further, read differing views, and so forth.
—None of this is what indoctrination looks like. It’s what learning looks like.

Topic 4.15 isn’t Intersectionality and Activism anymore, it was replaced by “Economic Growth and Black Political Representation.” None of this mattered to FL of course, because their objections were insincere and made in bad faith from the start. Nothing was ever going to change their mind.

Quick soap box rant: It won’t fucking scar students for life to have to read ideas.

Example: I would argue that one cannot understand economics, most of 20th century American history including the Cold War, and even the current situation in Ukraine, without understanding Karl Marx. It’s essential. And reading Marx for that purpose isn’t “indoctrination,” for fucking crying out loud. Nobody has to agree with Marx, they just need to understand him.

I don’t have the OG syllabus for that class before the changes, but I’d bet those authors that FL objected to weren’t the only reading source for that topic. Pretty much all of those topics have several different reading sources, and there’s 101 topics FFS. These objections are so pathetic they are hardly worth mentioning, let alone entertaining.

Republicans want to create an environment where students never encounter an idea that conflicts with GOP political views. That’s what actual indoctrination looks like.

 

[fingercuffs]

You get triggered by a confederate flag? Why?

Why wouldn't you? I know I'm in CA now but it's a flag of a tragic terrible time which is horrid. And anyone puffing their chest as a right to fly it is doing it for not nice means...as well as anyone who says otherwise knows completely.

 

[spamking]

Why wouldn't you? I know I'm in CA now but it's a flag of a tragic terrible time which is horrid. And anyone puffing their chest as a right to fly it is doing it for not nice means...as well as anyone who says otherwise knows completely.

I wouldn't get "triggered" by a confederate flag because I have a life and actual issues that I have to deal with that are much more important than the hows and whys of someone flying a flag. I look at it, roll my eyes and move on . . .

 

[fingercuffs]

I wouldn't get "triggered" by a confederate flag because I have a life and actual issues that I have to deal with that are much more important than the hows and whys of someone flying a flag. I look at it, roll my eyes and move on . . .

Look at it where? Where do you see this on a repeated basis?

 

[spamking]

Look at it where? Where do you see this on a repeated basis?

Wherever I might happen to see one? I didn't say I see the flag on a regular basis.

 

[My Spot]

Literally only? And why wouldn't people get triggered by that? I do and I've only been here 10 years.

Needing a safe space because someone in the deep south is flying a confederate flag on their property?

 

[oldshadow]

Look at it where? Where do you see this on a repeated basis?

Did you avoid the Chesapeake express way because of the flag there?

 

[SKYNET]

Wherever I might happen to see one? I didn't say I see the flag on a regular basis.

Have you not been watching the Dukes of Hazard reruns lately lol?

 

[My Spot]

Did you avoid the Chesapeake express way because of the flag there?

And no Motorhead music too!

 

[James Eagle]

Bruh everyone knows this

What do you think admin does? It gets the funding for the research or finds what areas people want to direct their funding towards

Nearly 50% of all work is admin and they get exponentially more than researchers

The only reason these places get money is due to admin

Um

Alumni, boosters, folks looking for a tax break

Admin don’t do shit

 

[Hdfi]

Good for Florida. Universities should not be used to propagate racist cults.

 

[shockaholic12]

Again, in the REAL WORLD workers want to be in an environment where people do their jobs, and students want to be left alone to pursue their studies. If you honestly think shoving diversity down people's throats works and can't see that forcing the issue makes the workplace or learning environment better you have no real world experiences at all.

Diversity can be a good thing when it's "organic". Forcing it upon people often causes more issues that it was supposed to solve.

if what your pitching was true it would easy to support with studies as this topic has been researched throughly. Show us evidence from the REAL WORLD. But you haven’t done that. You just keep repeating your personal opinion and projecting it on society.

Pretty much all research shows the opposite of what you’re claiming. No on cares about whatever “organic” means you think should be used. They simply want diversity

 

[cincymma79]

Good fuck em

 

[James Eagle]

My bad. I had you mixed up with @kflo. You're @BFoe.

They are easily confusable

Interchangeable NPCs

 

[Fox by the Sea]

They simply want diversity

Must be some American phenomenon. I've never encountered people "wanting" diversity. At most they're OK with it. "Wanting" diversity sounds pathological.

 

[James Eagle]

Why wouldn't you? I know I'm in CA now but it's a flag of a tragic terrible time which is horrid. And anyone puffing their chest as a right to fly it is doing it for not nice means...as well as anyone who says otherwise knows completely.

So we should also hate the British flag

 

[spamking]

if what your pitching was true it would easy to support with studies as this topic has been researched throughly. Show us evidence from the REAL WORLD. But you haven’t done that. You just keep repeating your personal opinion and projecting it on society.

Pretty much all research shows the opposite of what you’re claiming. No on cares about whatever “organic” means you think should be used. They simply want diversity

I don't care dude. I don't work with research or studies. I work in the real world.