Social Dog of Peace Fatally Mauls 3-Month-Old Baby, Injures Mother in NJ

Yes, 8 responses vs. pages of deranged ignorant people wanting to kill dogs not related to said attack or breed. Bring on the 20 year old stale meme'ing and gifs as we chuckle lol & pretend to virtue signal about a dead child. Real heroes.

I'm the unhinged one though because I believe in:
-Punish the deed not the breed
-Property rights
- Guardian/Working breeds should be treated as dangerous deadly weapons
-99% of you still have no idea what a pitbull is & its just a generic non verified term for any dog that looks a certain way too justify your hysteria & troll online personas
-Statistics must be verified from credible sources and explain thier methodology for classification
-The same statistics and logic show that there are way more "pitbulls" that are owned responsibly that live their entire lives as normal pets with no attacks
-That there is common ground and concessions to be made on both sides of the argument
-That people who constantly post debunked lies or articles for other breeds killing people then backtracking & ignoring their propaganda are not credible to make the rules for responsible honest people.

Yeah so unreasonable.
aahhhhhhhahhhahhhhh IM A CRAZY PERSON
Fk out of here B....
It's too late to punish if the kid's already dead, don't you think? Oh yeah, no you don't. You believe other dangerous things exist which sadly result in people getting killed so a certain amount of preventable child death is acceptable as long as people get to keep their "right to own dogs", right? And don't make me go back to the other thread and prove it when you and I both know you made that claim.

NO NUMBER OF KIDS BEING KILLED BY DOGS SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE so if you can only accomplish that by getting rid of the fucking things then why not do it for once and for all? Fuckin' Jeebus how hard is that to understand? No one on the "kids shouldn't ever be killed by dogs" side should have to make any concessions, you tool.
 
-I've been wanting to rise Bulldog campeiros, and would need a bigger backyard. I could rise a couple here, but it's cruelty to them, and they arent agressive dogs.

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The girl next door owns a really pretty female pitbull, but she doesnt even walks with the dog. Whats the point of owning one? They arent toys.

Theres are another girls here, that are rising those dogs in really smaller closed spaces. They do look like the other guy described!

They look nice but haven't seen them much in Brazil.
Also, it's a horrible place full of animal cruelty (and human cruelty too), broke my heart

All guard dog breeds can do a lot more damage than the pitbull, but most people buy pitbulls because they are cheap and disposable, so they end up with scum owners
I can probably go in an adoption group today in Brazil and find a pitbull in 30 seconds. Or walk a shitty neighbourhood one and just pick up an abandoned one. Plenty of these dogs have been mistreated too.
This shit doesn't happen with the big mastiff breeds because the people already had to spend 500-5000 bucks for a dog, they won't ruin him in a dogfight.
 
@Rob Battisti Here's my other post clearly indicating that the Dachshund breed, that are known man biters with bad temperament, could be crossbred into a larger more capable breed. In other words, the existing purebred Dachshund breed isn't big enough to be as dangerous as a Pit. Though they have bitten more people in my state.
Exactly
 
called it LMAO



"IT"S NOT A PITBULL IT'S 1% PENGUIN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DOGS YOU IDIOTS I AM CURRENTLY SHITTING MY PANTS!!!"
Yep just like the election. Any day now huh.

If you can't engage in addressing any facts or coherent thoughts kindly STFU dork.
 
They look nice but haven't seen them much in Brazil.
Also, it's a horrible place full of animal cruelty (and human cruelty too), broke my heart

All guard dog breeds can do a lot more damage than the pitbull, but most people buy pitbulls because they are cheap and disposable, so they end up with scum owners
I can probably go in an adoption group today in Brazil and find a pitbull in 30 seconds. Or walk a shitty neighbourhood one and just pick up an abandoned one. Plenty of these dogs have been mistreated too.
This shit doesn't happen with the big mastiff breeds because the people already had to spend 500-5000 bucks for a dog, they won't ruin him in a dogfight.
- They're pretty rare here. That's is what attracted me.
I prefer non agressive dogs.

About the pits. Yes they're far more chaper to buy and mantain here, even thought they are controlated dogs, several retards rise them, with lucky we get cops that are dog lovers to do something about it.

We have pítbulls roaming her, when they put the controlling law, they got pretty rare. Now they become the moda(fashion?) dog again. When Goldens become the new dog of the moment, i rarelly saw them, now the pugs are the new dog of status And yes i seen them roaming around, i even see a lhasa here, i thought about getting him for me.
 
It's too late to punish if the kid's already dead, don't you think? Oh yeah, no you don't. You believe other dangerous things exist which sadly result in people getting killed so a certain amount of preventable child death is acceptable as long as people get to keep their "right to own dogs", right? And don't make me go back to the other thread and prove it when you and I both know you made that claim.

NO NUMBER OF KIDS BEING KILLED BY DOGS SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE so if you can only accomplish that by getting rid of the fucking things then why not do it for once and for all? Fuckin' Jeebus how hard is that to understand? No one on the "kids shouldn't ever be killed by dogs" side should have to make any concessions, you tool.
How stupid is your opening sentence? My God smh. Other breeds kill children too besides pitbulls you dimwitted intentionally obtuse fktrd. As long as people own medium or above sized pets that # will never be 0. Unless your moronic answer is to outlaw pets all together.
How many children should horses kill???? 0 right
Ban them too. Let's ban everything that kills more children than pitbulls. Why not?

Here is something else you non dog knowing clowns never consider. A good working dog of any breed can save your life and protect you too. Better than some breeds. But dopes like you only believe anecdotes that support your confirmation bias.

Just ask Mark Coleman. How many children do Rottweilers kill a year???? The answer is more than zero. Guess Mark Coleman should get told by a pencil neck dweeb like yourself that he shouldn't have owned the Rottweiler that just saved him & his parents from burning alive. You are insufferable.
 
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How stupid is your opening sentence? My God smh. Other breeds kill children too besides pitbulls you dimwitted intentionally obtuse fktrd. As long as people own medium or above sized pets that # will never be 0. Unless your moronic answer is to outlaw pets all together.
How many children should horses kill???? 0 right
Ban them too. Let's ban everything that kills more children than pitbulls. Why not?

Here is something else you non dog knowing clowns never consider. A good working dog of any breed can save your life and protect you too. Better than some breeds. But dopes like you only believe antidotes that support your confirmation bias.

Just ask Mark Coleman. How many children do Rottweilers kill a year???? The answer is more than zero. Guess Mark Coleman should get told by a pencil neck dweeb like yourself that he shouldn't have owned the Rottweiler that just saved him & his parents from burning alive. You are insufferable.
Your argument is facile.

Regardless, you're arguing the deaths of children are acceptable because dogs are awesome ALMOST all the time.
 
Your argument is facile.

Regardless, you're arguing the deaths of children are acceptable because dogs are awesome ALMOST all the time.
Its a fact of life and a risk with everything we do. Kids die from riding horses. Parents still let their kids ride horses. Kids die in auto accidents or riding their bikes. We don't outlaw these things and say they are unacceptable because "da # shulD bE zEr0." We mitigate it through responsible ownership and appropriate measures that don't infringe.

Don't run from the closer. Rottweilers kill children too. The # is not 0. According to your logic that # should be 0. What do you purpose we do with Rottweilers??????
What would you tell Mark Coleman about his Rottweiler right now??????

Your logic isn't so sound & simplistic when you take it out of your imaginary utopian theory and actually apply it to a real world current event.
 
Its a fact of life and a risk with everything we do. Kids die from riding horses. Parents still let their kids ride horses. Kids die in auto accidents or riding their bikes. We don't outlaw these things and say they are unacceptable because "da # shulD bE zEr0." We mitigate it through responsible ownership and appropriate measures that don't infringe.

Don't run from the closer. Rottweilers kill children too. The # is not 0. According to your logic that # should be 0. What do you purpose we do with Rottweilers??????
What would you tell Mark Coleman about his Rottweiler right now??????

Your logic isn't so sound & simplistic when you take it out of your imaginary utopian theory and actually apply it to a real world current event.
Sure, I conceded immediately in that other thread that my opinion is just that and I neither expect nor even have any hope that it will prevail over society. Remember?

I don't even have any kids so the argument is not self-serving like yours. I just think as a civilization that supposedly places the value of children above all, we shouldn't stand for them being killed by pets under any circumstances.

The horses comparison is why I said your thinking is facile. And again, just to be clear, your argument here, according to your use of the terms mitigate and infringe, is a certain number of child deaths is acceptable in order for society to keep dogs as pets. I think that's a bad argument. Everyone else can make up their own minds, can't they?
 
How stupid is your opening sentence? My God smh. Other breeds kill children too besides pitbulls you dimwitted intentionally obtuse fktrd. As long as people own medium or above sized pets that # will never be 0. Unless your moronic answer is to outlaw pets all together.
How many children should horses kill???? 0 right
Ban them too. Let's ban everything that kills more children than pitbulls. Why not?

Here is something else you non dog knowing clowns never consider. A good working dog of any breed can save your life and protect you too. Better than some breeds. But dopes like you only believe anecdotes that support your confirmation bias.

Just ask Mark Coleman. How many children do Rottweilers kill a year???? The answer is more than zero. Guess Mark Coleman should get told by a pencil neck dweeb like yourself that he shouldn't have owned the Rottweiler that just saved him & his parents from burning alive. You are insufferable.
All of that is irrelevant because pitbulls kill more kids than all other breeds combined, multiple times over. You could literally remove almost 90% of fatal dog attacks by just going to local trailer parks and meth labs and giving these losers meth in exchange for fixing all their dogs. Within 10 years, the problem would solve itself.

Fighting dogs, bred to fight for centuries still want to fight and dumbasses like you defend them. They’re a working dog and that work is to kill. Fuck pitbulls, they do not belong in our soceity. Period. Numbers tell you all you need to know. Dog fighting and bull baiting is illegal so there is no valid reason to own a shitbull.
 
Sure, I conceded immediately in that other thread that my opinion is just that and I neither expect nor even have any hope that it will prevail over society. Remember?

I don't even have any kids so the argument is not self-serving like yours. I just think as a civilization that supposedly places the value of children above all, we shouldn't stand for them being killed by pets under any circumstances.

The horses comparison is why I said your thinking is facile. And again, just to be clear, your argument here, according to your use of the terms mitigate and infringe, is a certain number of child deaths is acceptable in order for society to keep dogs as pets. I think that's a bad argument. Everyone else can make up their own minds, can't they?
Thats not my argument. That's your misunderstanding of how certain life experiences work. You want to dismiss it because it kills your "0 deaths" logic.
Dog ownership is a unique & rewarding life experience for many. Just like every other hobby or passion in life. All of these things come with risk!!!! EVERYTHING. From kids dying playing football to kids dying from getting hit by drunk drivers. Accepting or participating in any of those activities does not equate to your false narrative of "accepting children dying" if we don't want to ban all of those things.

Again that logic means anyone who participates in horseback riding, football, driving a car, & or drinking beer are selfishly accepting child deaths. That is ridiculous. All of which kill far more children than "pitbulls."

Why won't you answer the direct question about Rottweilers & Mark Coleman???? How does your "logic" apply here. I know its a bit inconvenient for ya...But give it your best shot.
Like their couldn't be a better current event to relate this to on a MMA forum. Let's talk real life.
 
All of that is irrelevant because pitbulls kill more kids than all other breeds combined, multiple times over. You could literally remove almost 90% of fatal dog attacks by just going to local trailer parks and meth labs and giving these losers meth in exchange for fixing all their dogs. Within 10 years, the problem would solve itself.

Fighting dogs, bred to fight for centuries still want to fight and dumbasses like you defend them. They’re a working dog and that work is to kill. Fuck pitbulls, they do not belong in our soceity. Period. Numbers tell you all you need to know. Dog fighting and bull baiting is illegal so there is no valid reason to own a shitbull.
Fk off stupid. Your BS unverified stats don't mean much. Nor does your exaggerated trailer park hyperbole.
Ban Pitbulls and the numbers will revert back to the other breeds that irresponsible owners will get their hands on cheap. So tell your sister wives in your trailer park that they just shouldn't own dogs.

Where are you sourcing your statistics from and how does your source determine the dog is a pitbull?
 

The latest pitbull fatality in the US. I thought it was just memes but they really seem to attack children frequently.
A good portion of ALL dog attacks are children because of their spastic energy and the fact that they look like prey.
 
A good portion of ALL dog attacks are children because of their spastic energy and the fact that they look like prey.
It probably doesn't help that they make chew toy voices also, at least infants do. I have a Maltese and a poodle and the kids aren't allowed unsupervised contact with them. Moreso for the dogs safety but also the kids.
 
Both sides of the aisle of this debate are stupid.

The stats for pitbulls are mucked up beyond belief because they are composed of multiple breeds including mixes which is complete bullshit. The stats surrounding pitbulls are completely bogus and have been forever.

I'm not denying they wouldn't still be #1 but they aren't that far off from Rottweilers and no one says shit about them. People want to look at Pitbulls differently than other dogs but they don't realize there's much worse out there, just not yet.

Here's the truth, "Pitbulls" are a perfect storm for attacks. They are larger terriers, cheap, highly abundant, inbred beyond belief and purchased by the worst types of owners. The owners are a Hodge Podge of wannabe gangsters, social media Influencers, single cocaine whores and the pitbull apologist types in family units. Basically, they are dogs that require advanced ownership but are usually owned by amateurs. What do you think is going to happen when those conditions are met?

Beyond the breed and owner, the third party largely to blame for these attacks are shitty parents unrelated to the dog in question. There are many cases where kids get attacked by dogs because they just run up to them wanting to pet them and they end up setting off their prey drive. Parents that let their kids run up to any strange dog like that, and it resulting in an attack, needs to be heavily fined.

Banning the breed is ineffective and there are already stats that you can google (I'm not providing them for anyone) to reinforce that idea. The best thing to do is criminalize backyard breeding, regulate all larger working breeds and mandate licensing for them.

People want to point at pitbulls all day long but never say anything about the skinny broad who has a cane Corse or a dogo argentino because it's so chic to own one now a days. There are dogs MUCH worse and I promise you it will be worse if a dog like the two above were subjected to the same conditions.
 
- I knew wond't be a Saint Bernardo or Brazilian Fila. For some reason those bigger, far more powerfull dogs thnt a pit-bull, dont make to the statistics!


One thing to take into consideration is the high volume of Pit-bull dogs in comparison with the Brazilian Filas, Dogo Argentinos, and Akitas. It is like a 10:1 ratio of Pit-Bulls to other obscure dog breeds.
 
- I knew wond't be a Saint Bernardo or Brazilian Fila. For some reason those bigger, far more powerfull dogs thnt a pit-bull, dont make to the statistics!
It's because they are the Heavyweights of dog breeds. It's like that with humans too. Have you ever noticed that heavyweight fighters almost never talk trash or behave like a "Conor McGregor"? They are much calmer than their manlet counterparts.
 
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