Crime The killing of Dexter Reed. The new George Floyd? "He was just riding around in his car, and they killed him"

[Helden]

Finding it wasn’t easy because no matter what you type in search, you get blacks killed by police. If I could find the data, I would certainly post it. It doesn’t mean it’s not out there, it just means the search hits in certain words-police, black, killed, etc.


Edit: found some.

https://www.officer.com/on-the-stre...on/article/12087034/who-kills-police-officers



“

• As to race, blacks were disproportionately represented in Stone's study; while comprising less than 13% of our population, blacks constituted 26% of cop killers in 2014.”

instead. So I just goofed around with a really quick and dirty experiment. I did a search of police shot by suspect and tried to do every third article as to be somewhat random. I then looked for evidence of the race of the shooter. If I could find it, I counted it-if I could not, I went to the very next article. This took me about 15 mins.

This is just a random sample and does not account for media bias or one story being bigger news than another. My findings weren’t exactly shocking, but here they are:

Out of ten articles, 16 total officers killed, two firefighters, one court employee, and a paramedic. So, 20 first responders dead in ten incidents. The areas ranged from Memphis, Louisiana, Washington state, Minnesota, oakland, Philly, Austin. There were three double slaying and three triple slayings. I had to search 21 articles to get the data I needed.

Of the shooters, 8/10 were black. One Hispanic, one white. The officers were 12/16 white, 4 black, court officer was black, all firefighters/paramedic white. Most calls were domestics or erratic subjects, a few car chases, and some robberies/car jackings. I did not count multiple assailants-but if I had, all were black. I only counted one shooter. All male suspects and one female
Accomplice.

here’s a source debunking the “blacks are 3x more likely to be killed by police” bullshit


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/11/opinion/statistical-paradox-police-killings/

This quick and dirty experiment of yours did nothing to address the statement that a cop is more likely to be killed by a black person than vice versa

I did an even simpler experiment, 2022: a total of 60 police in all of US were killed
Thats same year around 1100 people were killed by police...

 

[nhbbear]

This "Doctor" has made a career doing this...

Wow... dude did delete his Twitter account. I mean, the usual reaction to massive social media backlash is to put your shit on private or restrict comments. This guy just jumped out of the plane without a parachute.

lol

On your point... Chicago Mayor Johnson elects to throw the police under the bus and demands accountability.



Wrong Mayor... wrong position to take.

The “dr” is a piece of shit race baiter trying to manufacture outrage. He will face no professional repercussions.

As for the mayor, I don’t like him, but I didn’t find his take in the section of the speech particularly upsetting. I would rather the mayor come out and state the facts that this suspect fired first and he does emphasize with the family and there will be an investigation, but I understand why a politician would straddle the fence like that.

 

[nhbbear]

This quick and dirty experiment of yours did nothing to address the statement that a cop is more likely to be killed by a black person than vice versa

I did an even simpler experiment, 2022: a total of 60 police in all of US were killed
Thats same year around 1100 people were killed by police...

Did you consider that the killing of a police officer is almost never justified and the majority of the 1100 were justified. Did you ever look into that? Because I know the media never looks beyond that number and then the race of the deceased. Then they do their stats and say “you are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police if black” using the % of pop vs number killed. They don’t look into the stats of black crime that 6% of pop responsible for 54% of all murders and 80 some % of all non fatal shootings. They never look to see what the suspects were armed with, the crimes committed, the actions of the suspects, or the final result or ruling of the shootings-justified or not.

Just like next year, this guy will go into the “black and killed by police” stat.

Your study is weak and flawed. At least I made an attempt at the scientific method.

 

[Helden]

Did you consider that the killing of a police officer is almost never justified and the majority of the 1100 were justified. Did you ever look into that? Because I know the media never looks beyond that number and then the race of the deceased. Then they do their stats and say “you are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police if black” using the % of pop vs number killed. They don’t look into the stats of black crime that 6% of pop responsible for 54% of all murders and 80 some % of all non fatal shootings. They never look to see what the suspects were armed with, the crimes committed, the actions of the suspects, or the final result or ruling of the shootings-justified or not.

Just like next year, this guy will go into the “black and killed by police” stat.

Your study is weak and flawed. At least I made an attempt at the scientific method.

You deciding to ignore every 3rd article as a form of "random sampling" is the furthest thing from a "scientific method".

The premise wasn't if it was justified or not, the premise was that a cop is more likely to be killed by a black "suspect" than a black suspect being killed by a cop, which simply isn't reality.

 

[WhiteMousse]

A mother in denial is common among all races. So we really shouldn't care what she thinks her dumbass kid was doing when he was pulled over. Since she wasn't there, she wouldn't know.

The police camera tells us all we need to know. Kid wouldn't get out of vehicle. Because he knew he was carrying an illegal gun and would get arrested. But instead of taking the L peacefully, the shit-for-brains goes full tard and empties has gun at the officers, hitting one of them. So the cops naturally returned fire and ended his low IQ existence.

The media does what they do. Post the best pics of the kid when either 12 or at a graduation. Then omit that the moron was firing a gun at police.

Queue the mob outrage based on lies.



So yeah, the Kid was already being strung up on illegal gun charges. So he knew he'd be in for a long jail sentence and no repeat bail.

I mean this should have been the end of the thread but hey look there's ten pages of it

 

[method115]

Plain clothes "task force" officers making basic traffic stops over seat belts. I mean what could go wrong?

Memphis police disband unit whose officers fatally beat Tyre Nichols | Tyre Nichols | The Guardian

The Scorpion unit has been deactivated after video was released of the brutal beating of the 29-year-old at the hands of officers

amp.theguardian.com

Oh yeah, plain clothes task force officers have a bad habit of f*cking up average citizens. Obviously one should always "just comply" any time some dudes with baseball caps and regular outfits on get out of a regular car, point guns, and bark orders at me because I may not have been wearing a seat belt. Oh but...

"However, early Tuesday evening, CBS 2 obtained a letter issued by Kersten to police Supt. Larry Snelling – in which she wrote that "the available evidence calls into question the veracity" of the claim that a seat belt violation was the initial reason for pulling over Reed.

"Specifically, COPA is uncertain how the officers could have seen this seat belt violation given their location relative to [the] vehicle and the dark tints on vehicle windows," Kersten wrote in the letter on April 1. "This evidence raises serious concerns about the validity of the traffic stop that led to the officers' encounter [Reed]."

And it looks like this unit is already under COPA investigation:

"The letter added that COPA had another investigation open for a traffic stop involving the same five officers, which occurred less than a month earlier and was also purported to be based on a seat belt violation."

Shooting at them was pretty nuts because of the sheer tactical disadvantage, granted he DIDN'T believe they were Cops (or see their badges until it was too late), it was still a poor decision. That said, this entire encounter stinks of these guys targeting certain citizens for whatever reason.

I didn't know they were plain clothes officers. That is weird that plain clothes officers are pulling people over for seat belt violations.

 

[AWilder]

- I liked Snes. Fun troll

He was one of those sad people not from America like @Fox by the Sea and @GoldenWolf87 who larp as American right wing culture warriors. Pathetic stuff.

 

[Scerpi]

Plain clothes "task force" officers making basic traffic stops over seat belts. I mean what could go wrong?

Memphis police disband unit whose officers fatally beat Tyre Nichols | Tyre Nichols | The Guardian

The Scorpion unit has been deactivated after video was released of the brutal beating of the 29-year-old at the hands of officers

amp.theguardian.com

Oh yeah, plain clothes task force officers have a bad habit of f*cking up average citizens. Obviously one should always "just comply" any time some dudes with baseball caps and regular outfits on get out of a regular car, point guns, and bark orders at me because I may not have been wearing a seat belt. Oh but...

"However, early Tuesday evening, CBS 2 obtained a letter issued by Kersten to police Supt. Larry Snelling – in which she wrote that "the available evidence calls into question the veracity" of the claim that a seat belt violation was the initial reason for pulling over Reed.

"Specifically, COPA is uncertain how the officers could have seen this seat belt violation given their location relative to [the] vehicle and the dark tints on vehicle windows," Kersten wrote in the letter on April 1. "This evidence raises serious concerns about the validity of the traffic stop that led to the officers' encounter [Reed]."

And it looks like this unit is already under COPA investigation:

"The letter added that COPA had another investigation open for a traffic stop involving the same five officers, which occurred less than a month earlier and was also purported to be based on a seat belt violation."

Shooting at them was pretty nuts because of the sheer tactical disadvantage, granted he DIDN'T believe they were Cops (or see their badges until it was too late), it was still a poor decision. That said, this entire encounter stinks of these guys targeting certain citizens for whatever reason.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

He was one of those sad people not from America like @Fox by the Sea and @GoldenWolf87 who larp as American right wing culture warriors. Pathetic stuff.

- He was trolling.Collorful gimicks make a forum funny.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- .American cops live in a place full of guns. The dumbass shond't shot the cops.

 

[LMP]

I'm not seeing any real outrage anywhere except the family and the imagination of race baiters. It's a pretty clear and cut case of him shooting first. We can argue over the reason for the encounter but it's still justified for the officers to defend themselves.

 

[nhbbear]

You deciding to ignore every 3rd article as a form of "random sampling" is the furthest thing from a "scientific method".

The premise wasn't if it was justified or not, the premise was that a cop is more likely to be killed by a black "suspect" than a black suspect being killed by a cop, which simply isn't reality.

I was trying to keep it as random as possible to avoid bias. You didn’t do a study or experiment. You looked up two stats. It’s been a few years since I took stats in my masters, which I absolutely aced, and I don’t remember what the best way to figure this out would be, or even what it is called.

But based upon what I did post, of all the police murdered by suspects, 26% suspects were black. Compare that with 6% of the pop(black males) vs the low percentage they are in total of the 1100 killed by police( at 200/1100-its 18%) and compare that to the population of all black males in the country, the odds of being a black male killed by police are low vs the odds of being one of a population of 900k law enforcement officers being killed by a black suspect.

 

[G-19]

This quick and dirty experiment of yours did nothing to address the statement that a cop is more likely to be killed by a black person than vice versa

I did an even simpler experiment, 2022: a total of 60 police in all of US were killed
Thats same year around 1100 people were killed by police...

1100 people out of 333.3M population in 2022. 60 POs out of 708,001 in 2022. What does the math tell us?

 

[P4p Islam]

Is this what we're mad about today?

 

[G-19]

Yeah it’s fine that they shot back and killed them, but one might question the insane 100 round response there. They should probably evaluate it and make sure these cops didn’t needless endanger others by hosing the whole damn area

It looks more like they fired 79 rounds between 4 officers.They’re adding Dexter Reeds 17 rounds fired to the total. At least that’s what it looks like they’re doing going off what I’ve seen. CWBChicago is a good source so when they post an article I’ll add it here for everyone to read.

 

[oldshadow]

It looks more like they fired 79 rounds between 4 officers.They’re adding Dexter Reeds 17 rounds fired to the total. At least that’s what it looks like they’re doing going off what I’ve seen. CWBChicago is a good source so when they post an article I’ll add it here for everyone to read.

So the cops each dumped I mag + 11 more total. While the criminal trying to kill them dumped 1 mag and was stopped before he could change mags. Doesn't sound excessive at all in a fire fight like that.

What did it last maybe 45 seconds if that.

 

[The_Renaissance]

So the cops each dumped I mag + 11 more total. While the criminal trying to kill them dumped 1 mag and was stopped before he could change mags. Doesn't sound excessive at all in a fire fight like that.

What did it last maybe 45 seconds if that.

I don't care if they dumped 2 mags each. Don't shoot at the police. Consequences

 

[blaseblase]

It's strange the stories that the media fixates on and the ones they ignore. This incident happened in 2014. Young black guy picked up a BB gun that was for sale at Walmart. Some idiot called the police and they shot and killed him. For holding an item that was available for purchase.

Killing of John Crawford III - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

This incident should have provoked national outrage. There was no question of the guy's innocence. But it largely got ignored while the big story that year was Michael Brown.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

It's strange the stories that the media fixates on and the ones they ignore. This incident happened in 2014. Young black guy picked up a BB gun that was for sale at Walmart. Some idiot called the police and they shot and killed him. For holding an item that was available for purchase.

Killing of John Crawford III - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

This incident should have provoked national outrage. There was no question of the guy's innocence. But it largely got ignored while the big story that year was Michael Brown.

They choose to focus on incidents that are divisive and not ones where everyone agrees is fucked up because their goal is division.

 

[Osculater]

This "Doctor" has made a career doing this...

Wow... dude did delete his Twitter account. I mean, the usual reaction to massive social media backlash is to put your shit on private or restrict comments. This guy just jumped out of the plane without a parachute.

lol

On your point... Chicago Mayor Johnson elects to throw the police under the bus and demands accountability.



Wrong Mayor... wrong position to take.

Wtf fvcking bullshit!