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  1. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    No, I wrote specific things. You wrote bullshit that you're now claiming is the same thing. Poor people and homeless are not the same thing. That you struggle with understanding why something that is unreasonable for the homeless is not the same thing as unreasonable for the poor just tells me...
  2. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    Why double down on a blatant inability to read? You're struggling to distinguish between "poor people" (your term) and "homeless" (my term). They're not interchangeable terms. I would think that someone of your age would know that. But since it's not clear to you, I've obviously given you too...
  3. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    The point I made in the post you referred to. It was very straightforward there.
  4. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    Interesting, a complete failure to describe something that isn't already a crime for everyone. Trespass, littering, theft, etc. Why bother responding to me if you're not willing to actually understand the posts themselves? Trespass, littering, theft, etc. I hate to break this to you but those...
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    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    ??? That doesn't remotely resemble what I said. So, I'll assume you meant to quote someone else.
  6. panamaican

    Law House passes antisemitism bill that will target free speech and criticism of Israel

    Ok...I still hadn't read it at the time that I posted. Short or long doesn't change that.
  7. panamaican

    Law House passes antisemitism bill that will target free speech and criticism of Israel

    I deleted my post. I have to read the definition put forth under the law before I comment. My opinion will probably be the same but, imo, it's irresponsible of me to comment before doing more research on the details.
  8. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    Sleeping outside isn't committing a crime. If the concern is theft, trespass, harassment, it's dumb because those are already crimes and the homeless can be prosecuted under those. Not having a job isn't a crime -- when people with money do it, we call them the idle rich. Sleeping outside isn't...
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    Law Farmer at Isolated British Farmhouse shoots two burglars at around 1am, killing one and seriously injuring the other. Murder + Attempted Murder Arrest

    This is a mountain out of a molehill thread. They arrested a man at a scene where he shot 2 people. That's not out of bounds when the police still have to conduct their formal investigation into what happened. And that doesn't change just because everyone is confident that the shot people...
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    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    It's also a disingenuous punishment. Financial penalties for the homeless means a penalty that we know they can't meet. Thus opening them up for more severe punishment as a result of not meeting the first punishment. It's like penalizing people with no legs by demanding that they walk 2 miles...
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    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    That may be. No stats can overcome incompetence.
  12. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    They have a $5.5 Billion budget. That's less than 1% of their annual budget. Considering the savings from other homeless related government interventions, it's probably a pretty good municipal investment.
  13. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    Personally, I hope the city loses. Criminalizing people or fining them so that you can eventually imprison them simply because they don't have homes is insane to me. It's just an abuse of human rights that I can't understand how anyone could support it and still adhere to the concept of...
  14. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    I still think it's less than $20k. So, $50 million on a well run program. Considering that we're sending magical billions to Ukraine every couple of months, I'd consider $50 million annually quite reasonable.
  15. panamaican

    Economy Use Cash sherbros

    No one in this dystopian future is using cash. If the government wants to fuck you, turning off your access to the digital economy is the least effective way to do it. It's a lot easier to send you to jail and destroy your public credibility.
  16. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    I think $30/day for food is way high. The average monthly grocery bill of 1 person is between $250 and $600. $30/day would put us above $800 and blowing past the high end of average. Also, I edited my prior post to include that it's about $40k to house a federal inmate and that's including...
  17. panamaican

    Social Can homeless people be fined for sleeping outside? A rural Oregon city asks the US Supreme Court

    I have to take issue with your numbers. There are people living on $15/hour, I can't imagine that a homeless person costs more than that to house/feed. Rent at $1000/month (on the high side) plus $300-$400/month on food. Maybe $100/month for utilities. I think it can be done for less than...
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    Social Harvard applications drop for second year in a row after turmoil on campus

    No one should pay attention to application numbers. The elite schools have been artificially boosting application numbers by encouraging everyone with a pulse to apply and waiving the application fees (via recruitment letters)...while knowing that those applicants have no chance of admission...
  19. panamaican

    Civil War movie

    It was interesting but not what I expected. As a commentary on war journalism and what that is like, I thought it was enjoyable. I don't know much about the subject and have never really thought about what it takes to provide the images that accompany the news stories I read. But I was...
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