Arman Tsarukyan is going to be the first rising contender to get past the old lion

My reasoning is that out of the Oliveira/Gaethje/Poirier trinity, Oliveira is the one with the most defensive flaws. He has been the most successful out of the three, but it's because of his grappling. That isn't going to work on Arman, who has never come close to being subbed.

Do Bronx has never outworked a grappler of this caliber before. If you look at his two best grappling performances, its against Kevin Lee and Jim Miller. He outwrestled and subbed an older Miller, and he got outwrestled by Lee until he gassed. When he faces an elite grappler, he ends up on bottom. So I expect Arman to be winning the grappling exchanges and I see him tiring Oliveira out. That's if he doesn't catch him on the feet. I think Oliveira has to get a KO to win.
 
It's a pretty even fight on paper, but Charles has the better resume and the better skillset.

Tsarukyan was nearly finished by Joaquim Silva for christ's sake.

I'm quite shocked charles is paying +200. No question he's the right side to bet.
 
Maybe, but he's fighting a better old lion than what the others fought, and while oliveira has defensive flaws, Arman (outside of his last fight) hasn't exactly been a big puncher and typically smothers guys and beats them with accumulative damage. That style allows ample time for the most opportunistic finisher in the game to find a finish. Also, I doubt charles gasses in a 3 rounder after all his title experience.

You say charles has never beaten a grappler of this level, but I'd argue that the opposite is also true. Charles has adapted his BJJ to mma better than anyone arman has ever faced.
 
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Dariush and Chandler don't get submitted too often if I recall correctly. Charles KTFO both of them.

I don't see Armin subbing Charles, he can use heavy wrestling pressure, sure, but he's at a risk of getting blasted out at any point, I don't think he holds that same threat over Charles.

Charles is a certified finisher. That changes everyone's game, they don't want to be added to the highlight reel (which is already like 14mins long)
 
fortheo said:
I don't know how anyone can ever be confident either way about an Oliveira fight.
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Because he's fighting someone who wont be afraid to engage him on the ground and by my estimation that's about the biggest factor in beating him.
 
fortheo said:
Maybe, but he's fighting a better old lion than what the others fought, and while oliveira has defensive flaws, Arman (outside of his last fight) hasn't exactly been a big puncher and typically smothers guys and beats them with accumulative damage. That style allows ample time for the most opportunistic finisher in the game to find a finish. Also, I doubt charles gasses in a 3 rounder after all his title experience.

You say charles has never beaten a grappler of this level, but I'd argue that the opposite is also true. Charles has adapted his BJJ to mma better than anyone arman has ever faced.
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Arman hung with Islam grappling for three rounds in his very first UFC fight. Outside of the first Volk fight, he's the only other fighter to not get completely steamrolled when Islam got a hold of them.
 
RockyLockridge said:
Because he's fighting someone who wont be afraid to engage him on the ground and by my estimation that's about the biggest factor in beating him.
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Well, we'll see how that goes for him. Dariush, Lee, chandler and many others weren't afraid to go to the ground with charles and they still lost.

This is pretty much a toss up for me. Just gonna enjoy the fight without trying too hard to pick a winner.
 
jk7707 said:
Arman hung with Islam grappling for three rounds in his very first UFC fight. Outside of the first Volk fight, he's the only other fighter to not get completely steamrolled when Islam got a hold of them.
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And? He's also the only fighter outside of volk that islam faced who actually wrestles at a high level of mma.

Islam's top game>>>> armans. Even arman's own training partner thinks this.
 
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I picked Gaethje over Fiziev and Poirier over BSD, so I'm not one to just jump on hype trains willy nilly at this leevl, but...

... I think Arman beats Charles in a decision.
 
fortheo said:
Well, we'll see how that goes for him. Dariush, Lee, chandler and many others weren't afraid to go to the ground with charles and they still lost.

This is pretty much a toss up for me. Just gonna enjoy the fight without trying too hard to pick a winner.
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Actually chandler was about to finish him and he was saved by the bell, Chandler pursuing him on the ground was the smartest thing he did in that fight. Porier and gaethje had him dropped but let him back up because they were scared. Islam dropped him, went straight to the floor to finish him off. IMO, His ground defense is not the best. I think Armen will just out muscle him and TKO him. He's been finished on the ground too many times for me to say that a person with a ground game like Armen would lose to him.
 
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I can’t stand Arman but this is a great matchup for him. Unfortunately I think he TKOs Olives but I hope he ends up getting guillotined by Chucky.
 
Khaosan said:
I can’t stand Arman but this is a great matchup for him. Unfortunately I think he TKOs Olives but I hope he ends up getting guillotined by Chucky.
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I dont care for armen either, but can't see him losing to charles of all people.
 
RockyLockridge said:
I dont care for armen either, but can't see him losing to charles of all people.
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I really hope we’re wrong and in some alternate universe Charles end up wrecking him on the feet with knees and elbows.
 
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