Social Article: "How Conservative Policies and Rhetoric Kill People"

Anewt said:
Which is why the " conservatives " in Australia introduced gun laws and legalised gay marriage? And a conservative prime minister in England pushed the abolishment of slavery through ?


Those damn anti-humanists
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None of those are "conservative" policies.
 
Anewt said:
Ahhh... ok policies put forth under conservative leadership and passed while under conservative controll.... aren't conservative policies.

I get it
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These people can't think outside of their labels. Their entire world view is black and white and everything needs to fall under one of those labels.
 
No real sympathy from me for someone who offs themselves because of who is elected president.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Well, some sympathy. They didn't get that way on their own, they got programmed to be a loser by left wing ideology.
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Natural selection. They can't function in normal society. See ya.
 
pretty sure assisted dying in canada is not a conservative thing, and since the practice is embraced, what's the issue?

According to the Fourth Annual Report on MAiD, there were 13,241 MAiD deaths reported in Canada in 2022.
 
Anewt said:
Ahhh... ok policies put forth under conservative leadership and passed while under conservative controll.... aren't conservative policies.

I get it
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First of all Australian conservatives would be considered centre-left in the US at best. Second, yeah.. a conservative government may pass neutral legislation. A law banning underage drinking isn't a "liberal" or a "conservative" law, regardless of which political party put it through.
 
Helden said:
First of all Australian conservatives would be considered centre-left in the US at best. Second, yeah.. a conservative government may pass neutral legislation. A law banning underage drinking isn't a "liberal" or a "conservative" law, regardless of which political party put it through.
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It's a article using Australian and English conservatives and the correlation between suicide/ homicide? What does it matter where you put them on Your scale in regards to usa ?




Indeed trying to view Australian politics through the lenses of 2 team and American politics is insane. Conservative and liberal / left right is just stupid to me. But that's how it's been done in this article.

So pretty much every law is neutral not liberal or conservative.
 
Anewt said:
It's a article using Australian and English conservatives and the correlation between suicide/ homicide? What does it matter where you put them on Your scale in regards to usa ?




Indeed trying to view Australian politics through the lenses of 2 team and American politics is insane. Conservative and liberal / left right is just stupid to me. But that's how it's been done in this article.

So pretty much every law is neutral not liberal or conservative.
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No, not every policy is neutral as it were, some policies have a specific ideological drive behind them. Any law that prohibits same sex marriage for instance would be viewed as a "conservative" policy as it specifically falls within the agenda of the conservative movement. The extent to how conservative or liberal a policy is, is a different discussion.
 
Helden said:
Any law that prohibits same sex marriage for instance would be viewed as a "conservative" policy as it specifically falls within the agenda of the conservative movement
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But our " conservatives " being in charge were the ones that made the change to legalise gay marriage........

Yet You wish to assign its a conservative policy to be against gay marriage.....

But here it was literally pushed through by [ what this article terms ]conservatives?

This is why trying to reduce shit to 2 teams is pointless
 

Widening gap in death rates between Democrat and Republican in the US | BMJ

Democratic areas saw greater improvements than Republican areas in death rate over the past two decades.
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Democratic areas saw greater improvements over the past two decades

Findings build on previous evidence that more liberal policies, laws, and regulations may be associated with better health outcomes

Americans living in counties that voted Democratic during presidential elections from 2000 to 2016 experienced larger decreases in death rates than residents of counties that voted for a Republican candidate, finds a study published by The BMJ today.

The results show that the gap in overall death rates between Democratic and Republican counties increased more than sixfold from 2001 to 2019, especially for white populations, and was driven mainly by deaths due to heart disease, cancer, chronic lung disease, unintentional injuries, and suicide.

The researchers suggest that this widening gap may reflect the influence of political environments on social, economic, and health policies.

Previous studies have shown that US counties that elect Republican candidates tend to experience worse health outcomes. However, recent trends in mortality differences for residents of Republican and Democratic counties are not known, nor are the conditions that might be driving those changes.

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I know the 'guess' was that it was mostly Democrats that were killing themselves because they 'couldn't cope', but that seems to be incorrect.

Vote Republican, you die earlier, whether it's George W or Barrack in the White House.

Anyone shocked now?

Anyone wondering if it might be down to the policies in those counties?
 
Anewt said:
Which is why the " conservatives " in Australia introduced gun laws and legalised gay marriage? And a conservative prime minister in England pushed the abolishment of slavery through ?


Those damn anti-humanists
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we are talking about in the murrican context here.....
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Well, some sympathy. They didn't get that way on their own, they got programmed to be a loser by left wing ideology.
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which party had a period over losing an election again? also its weird you say that, when a "loser" self-immolated because of trump's trial....

www.usatoday.com

Man dies after setting himself on fire outside Trump hush-money trial in Manhattan

The 37-year-old Florida native, who New York police described as a conspiracy theorist, telegraphed the incident as \
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also, its funny that you stand on your soap box and like a comment saying that other people are lunatics for seeing things black and white.....and then you go on a weird take that only "lefties" throw fits over political decisions when in recent history, the contrary is more true......
 
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filthybliss said:
we are talking about in the murrican context here.....
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The article in the op literally starts like this...........

Want to die young? Immerse yourself in conservative media, and vote Republican. Seriously. We should have known, but, still, the science is shocking: When conservatives run governments, suicides and homicides go up; when liberals run governments, suicides and homicides go down.

We got the first clue back in 2002, when, in a 100-year longitudinal study published that year in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, Australian researchers found that the suicide rate in that country and the U.K. increased throughout the twentieth century whenever a Conservative government was in power and declined measurably when the Labour Party was in charge.
 
Anewt said:
The article in the op literally starts like this...........

Want to die young? Immerse yourself in conservative media, and vote Republican. Seriously. We should have known, but, still, the science is shocking: When conservatives run governments, suicides and homicides go up; when liberals run governments, suicides and homicides go down.

We got the first clue back in 2002, when, in a 100-year longitudinal study published that year in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, Australian researchers found that the suicide rate in that country and the U.K. increased throughout the twentieth century whenever a Conservative government was in power and declined measurably when the Labour Party was in charge.
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meh, didn't bother reading it. i am not even conservative but it seems reductive to just look at trends and draw conclusions instead of stringing the exact conservative policies that leads to such trends.
 
filthybliss said:
meh, didn't bother reading it. i am not even conservative but it seems reductive to just look at trends and draw conclusions instead of stringing the exact conservative policies that leads to such trends.
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You can't get any more reductive than what you're asking for.

Asking for the exact policies that lead directly to deaths is asking for an A->B.
 
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