Bellator 176 - Carvalho vs Manhoef II - Italy

[EzFlyer]

http://www.sherdog.com/events/Bellator-176-Carvalho-vs-Manhoef-2-57987

 

[EzFlyer]

apparently this happens before the ufc on saturday..

 

[Joseph Budden]

Really not an interesting card, but I wonder how they'll price the main event after the atrocity that was the first fight

 

[EzFlyer]

Really not an interesting card, but I wonder how they'll price the main event after the atrocity that was the first fight

obviously gonna be a much closer line (i'm not in the habit of discussing lines pre release, but yea, this much is certain)

 

[MixedMartialFarts]

If the line is somewhat close, I'll go in heavy on Rafael. Melvin can win, I'm just way more confident in the Brazilian for the rematch.

 

[Tebowned]

I was at the first one live. It was pretty bad. Thought Carvalho won clearly but never watched it again and I know a lot of people think Manhoef won.

 

[null]

I like the fact that this and the Bellator kickboxing card that follows it are on live in the early afternoon, not tape delayed.

 

[EzFlyer]

I like the fact that this and the Bellator kickboxing card that follows it are on live in the early afternoon, not tape delayed.

oh, is it?

i hadn't even checked. i assumed tape delayed as usual for their italian shows

 

[Bless]

Bet-at-home (EU) released lines:

Carvalho -167
Manhoef +118

Yankova -660
Kallionidou +370

Chan -200
Mircea +140

 

[MMAFAN666]

Would take Chan at -200. He's looked legit. His opponent has not fought tough guys and lost to Cody Mckenzie not long ago

 

[EzFlyer]

Would take Chan at -200. He's looked legit. His opponent has not fought tough guys and lost to Cody Mckenzie not long ago

i don't think i would.. mircea is a wildman. idk, tho.

 

[EzFlyer]

1u mircea +230.. missed +260 opener

Chan is not that good. Mircea is super wild/aggressive.. he's a dangerous guy

Idk what to do on the carvalho-manhoef fight. Haveleans on it but mulling it over.

Yankova is a total fade plant, but kallionidou showed ZERO offense in 15 mins vs kavanagh.. this prolly goes 3 rounds, tho. Maybe o2.5 -150 isn't terrible.

 

[null]

I like Carvalho here as a small favorite. I recall him mentioning somewhere that he had a rough camp last time out. Melvin is dangerous enough to make it risky though.

 

[LEMONZEST]

I lost 10u on the last Bellator by losing every wager I made so i am pretty gunshy. So far my only bet is to win 1u on the over for the main event.

 

[null]

Don't see a video anywhere yet, but Sherdog had a weigh-in photo gallery from Torino, Italy. Just a reminder about Carvalho's big height and what I presume is also a significant reach advantage:

 

[LEMONZEST]

^^jeez thas a crazy size difference.

 

[Oblivian]

Still not sure which way to play it. Carvalho just seems terrified of Manhoef and I don't think highly of anyone who can't finish Manhoef after surviving 10 minutes.

 

[null]

I was under the impression that this card and the kickboxing card that follows it was live because it started on Spike at 3 PM EDT, but according to CombatPress.com it's still a few hours tape delayed:

"The action kicks off Saturday at 11 a.m. ET. The event will air via same day tape-delay on Spike TV at 3 p.m ET."

 

[null]

Rafael explaining some reasons for his lackluster performance last time against Manhoef, fwiw: “It’s no excuse, but for that fight I had a very challenging training camp,” Carvalho told MMAjunkie in his native Portuguese. “I had one injury after another during that camp. I fought with my shoulder and lower back both hurt. And on fight day, I hurt my foot, so I fought per our strategy."

http://mmajunkie.com/2017/04/rafael...anhoef-rematch-will-be-different-bellator-176

 

[LEMONZEST]

Rafael explaining some reasons for his lackluster performance last time against Manhoef, fwiw: “It’s no excuse, but for that fight I had a very challenging training camp,” Carvalho told MMAjunkie in his native Portuguese. “I had one injury after another during that camp. I fought with my shoulder and lower back both hurt. And on fight day, I hurt my foot, so I fought per our strategy."

http://mmajunkie.com/2017/04/rafael...anhoef-rematch-will-be-different-bellator-176

whats your bet here then Jim? You lookin to hit Rafael? Hard to bet MM when Raf is so much bigger.