Social Biden Admin cuts off flow of Covid treatments to states

[Last Falconry]

sides split in twain at the very idea of Florida
having an alternative cure to something that is more effective than a vaccine, but also lets you keep your freedom

"we don't need treatment here. We're free and dying whips ass. Except this kind. We need all of that, sorry, and if you stop us from hoarding it, you're Mussolini."

 

[Hadron90]

Good.

For those who are too lazy to read the WaPo article, perhaps it would also be edifying to inform them that monoclonal antibodies, like the vaccine, wane in effectiveness against new variants. Thus, new antibodies must be devised, and then bought.

Which is costly. Regeneron costs $2,100 per dose, so we just spent $2.9 billion on 1.2 million doses.

In comparison, the Moderna vaccine, which is effective in preventing contraction of the disease (not just the likelihood to spread it), cost us $5.75bn for 300 million doses.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/04/29/nation/us-government-has-now-given-moderna-6b-vaccine-effort/
Thus, the Moderna vaccine cost us $19.17 per dose.

Ergo, you could fully vaccinate 55 people for the same amount it would cost to treat one person with Regeneron (a monoclonal antibody treatment).

We have several vaccine threads. This thread isn't meant to be about comparing the effectiveness of the two...and De Santis' point was that both are needed anyway. More than half the people in Miami needing these treatments are vaccinated. Even if they were 100% vaxxed, 50% of their current monoclonal antibody supply isn't enough. This thread is about Biden nationalizing the medicine, which is going to severally limit the supply to the states that need it badly right now.

 

[Clifford_Harris]

Edited OP to make you happy.

According to you DeSantis specified Broward County.... But you state Miami in your OP. Miami is Dade County bro... You should listen to more Trick Daddy

 

[Hadron90]

I’m not. They’re really only fighting the vaccine because they’re butthurt about losing the election. They never cared about the approval and the rubes would mob the vaccine sites tomorrow if Trump called for it.

He won’t though because COVID being a continuing problem is bad for Biden. It’s fucking unreal

Trump did call for it, and he was nearly boo'd off stage.

 

[Madmick]

We have several vaccine threads.

That's fine. It was a passing observation as you specifically introduced the subject of vaccination in your OP.

 

[Lustercross]

why would all those wonderful vaccinated people in blue states need the treatment?

Every state including blue states have crazy anti vaxxers that need this treatment. No reason to let Florida hoard everything.

 

[Blayt7hh]

We have several vaccine threads. This thread isn't meant to be about comparing the effectiveness of the two...and De Santis' point was that both are needed anyway. More than half the people in Miami needing these treatments are vaccinated. Even if they were 100% vaxxed, 50% of their current monoclonal antibody supply isn't enough. This thread is about Biden nationalizing the medicine, which is going to severally limit the supply to the states that need it badly right now.

Where are you getting that more than half needing this treatment are vaccinated? I pulled up the recent hospital admissions in Miami and every day it’s roughly 80% unvaccinated. Over half of Miami-Dade is fully vaccinated, so that 80% is coming from a smaller pool. Where are you seeing that over half needing this treatment are vaccinated? It seems highly unlikely

https://www.miamidade.gov/information/library/2021-09-10-covid-dashboard.pdf

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Sounds like a federal death panel.

 

[Paradigm]

No drugs are being held hostage Karen. They are making sure States will be able to have access to MCA evenly. So that one State can't demand all of the countries resources. If Florida wants to increase its MCA share they could manufacture them in State. Monoclonal antibodies are provided from all over the country. Florida and other Southern states shouldn't demand all of the resources.

What is it with people in South taking up all of the countries resources? The majority of Southern states demand more money than they provide in taxes and now they are taking up more MCA than they provide. Stop being leeches.

You could also make the argument that certain communities take up more resources than they create...but that would be racist.

 

[AndroidRage]

@Hadron90 aren't you tired of looking stupid?

 

[terrapin]

Where are you getting that more than half needing this treatment are vaccinated? I pulled up the recent hospital admissions in Miami and every day it’s roughly 80% unvaccinated. Over half of Miami-Dade is fully vaccinated, so that 80% is coming from a smaller pool. Where are you seeing that over half needing this treatment are vaccinated? It seems highly unlikely

https://www.miamidade.gov/information/library/2021-09-10-covid-dashboard.pdf

read back in the thread man. hes already been taken apart for his dishonesty. you guys are doing a real service keeping the liars honest.

 

[Clifford_Harris]

You could also make the argument that certain communities take up more resources than they create...but that would be racist.

Why the hell is black a single ethnic group but white isn't? German, Irish, Finnish, Dutch, French, English are separate groups lol

 

[gluehuffer1776]

Florida won't be voting for Democrats for a long while. I think they just completely flipped Georgia with this Authoritarianism too.

as long as they have the mail in voting hoax they can flip elections to whatever they want

 

[Hadron90]

Where are you getting that more than half needing this treatment are vaccinated? I pulled up the recent hospital admissions in Miami and every day it’s roughly 80% unvaccinated. Over half of Miami-Dade is fully vaccinated, so that 80% is coming from a smaller pool. Where are you seeing that over half needing this treatment are vaccinated? It seems highly unlikely

https://www.miamidade.gov/information/library/2021-09-10-covid-dashboard.pdf

Second link.
DeSantis said 52% of those seeking treatment with the antibodies in Broward County had been vaccinated. A patient DeSantis brought to the microphone was one of those.


De Santis exact quote is:

And so when you looked at some of the most vulnerable people in florida to covid most of them are Almost all of them have been vaccinated and so it's helpful. But at the same time we were seeing breakthrough infections. And so if you have somebody who's in their 80s and has comorbidities, are they just supposed to hope for the best or do you want to make sure that they have access to this treatment? And so we thought it was important for both, regardless of your vaccination status have access. And so it's interesting that our Broward site, 52% of the patients that have received treatment have been vaccinated, 69% of those over 60 that have received treatment at the Broward site had been vaccinated in Miami Dade. Almost 60% of everybody that's been treated at the Tropical Park site has been vaccinated and 73% of the patients treated at the state site in Tropical Park that are over the age of 60 have been vaccinated. And so I think that the messages you do need to have treatment as an important component when you're dealing with covid.
https://www.wesh.com/article/gov-de...om-medical-facility-in-south-florida/37621910

 

[Ophydian]

You could also make the argument that certain communities take up more resources than they create...but that would be racist.

Nice Neo-Nazi map you have there. Just stumble across it? Why is it a racist map you ask? They have whites broken down into European ethnicity to muddy the percentage of “white people” to other racial ethnicities. If you know people who call themselves German American when their ancestors came to the US in 1790 then you might be a racist.

 

[HwoarangStyle]

After witnessing the success Florida has had treating Covid with monoclonal antibodies, it looks like demand for them is rapidly increasing. The Biden admin has stepped in to nationalize the supply, and will prevent states from ordering more on their own.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/14/monoclonal-antibodies-shortage/


https://floridapolitics.com/archive...ion-in-covid-19-treatment-flowing-to-florida/

De Santis predicts that this change will cut the supply of antibodies to Florida by 50%. This move will result in hospitalizations and deaths, perhaps dispropritionately affecting the vaccinated that make up the majority of people currently seeking treatment in Miami, according to De Santis.

Edit: Clarified that according to De Santis, the majority of people at several sites seeking monoclonal antibodies are vaccinated.

WTF!

 

[lilelvis]

Textbook fascism..

 

[WhiteMousse]

Densantis thinks its just the flu and no big deal so why would he give a shit about unnecessary treatments like monoclonal antibodies?

The dems think the vaccine is 100% effective so why would they give a shit about unnecessary treatments like monoclonal antibodies?

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Why the hell is black a single ethnic group but white isn't? German, Irish, Finnish, Dutch, French, English are separate groups lol

Maybe the non-American black population isn't large enough to register?
Why is "American" it's own population group?

 

[ShadowRun]