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Lmao. 1 , nobody does heroin anymore.
That must be why the government has set up safe injection sites and needle exchange programs. Because no one's doing heroin.
Lmao. 1 , nobody does heroin anymore.
Why in God's name would somebody spend money on heroin when they can get fentanyl for a fraction of the price, on any corner with way higher potency.That must be why the government has set up safe injection sites and needle exchange programs. Because no one's doing heroin.
Why in God's name would somebody spend money on heroin when they can get fentanyl for a fraction of the price, on any corner with way higher potency.
Again , nobody's doing heroin. You have 0 clue what your talking about and everybody can tell.
You don't even know what's out there why would I care about any more of your opinion on the matterReplace the word 'heroin' with 'opioids' in my posts if it's too difficult for you to wrap your head around.
Says the guy who has concluded that most homeless people are drug addicts based on personal anecdotes.
You've offered no systemic evidence for your position and would rather toss out actual statical evidence because it collides with your partisan worldview.
Again, why are California's underreprting drug abuse when the state has one of the most acute homeless epidemics. This seems odd given all I hear I'd that California has encouraged drug use and open air drug markets.
Most research shows a large plurality. My contention was on causation vs correlation.What evidence do you have that the majority of homeless AREN'T drug addicts?
Yup, just like most other drug stats. Which is why I didn't argue that the usage rates might be underreported. I argued rather than there is no evidence that drug users are more or less honest based on what state they live in. Which again goes to the myth that drug use is the cause of homelessness.You do realize that the "stats" are all based on self-reported polling.
Skid Row? Assuming that's what you're talking about, you have a really shit sample and need to brush up on your stats. Homelessness isn't just Skid Row, it's a lot of other populations that aren't as visible.As one that lives among the most dense homeless population in the country it's crystal clear that 90% of them are drug and alcohol addicts.
The drug question is pretty irrelevant given:Of course they'll swear to you, and the pollsters, they're clean even though you can see the needle marks up and down their legs and arms.
“That was taken away from us when the campers started using the parks,” he said.
A homeless man taking a bath in the park lake.
Still, Spurgeon said his own brother died while homeless in a nearby city, and his son is living in the parks as he struggles with addiction. Once, he said, he realized with shock that the homeless person covered with blankets that he stepped past to enter a grocery store was his son.
“I miss my son every night, and I hold my breath that he won’t OD in the park,” Spurgeon said.
A used needle is seen next to orange syringe caps on the ground on Friday, March 22, 2024, in Baker Park in Grants Pass, Ore. (AP Photo/Jenny Kane)
Mayor Bristol and advocates have sought to open a shelter with fewer rules, or a designated area for homeless people to camp. But charged debates emerged over where that would be and who would pay for it.
While support for a designated campground appears to be growing, the problem remains: Many homeless people in Grants Pass have nowhere else to live. And some advocates fear a return of strict anti-camping enforcement will push people to the forest outside town, farther from help.
A homeless man saving a park watcher!
Even if the Supreme Court overturns the 9th Circuit’s decisions, Bristol said, “we still have 200 people who have to go somewhere.”
“We have to accept that homelessness is a reality in America,” she said.
This broken heart has turned to stone
Go hang your glory on the wall
There comes a time when castles fall
And all that's left is shifting in the sand
You're out of time, you're out of place
Look at your face
That's the measure of a man
This coat that fits you like a glove
These dirty streets you learned to love
So welcome back my long lost friend
You've been to hell and back again
God alone knows how you crossed that span
Back on the beat, back to the start
Trust in your heart
That's the measure of a man
It's the fire in the eyes, the lines on the hand
It's the things you understand
Permanent ties from which you once ran
That's the measure of a man
You've come full circle, now you're home
Without the gold, without the chrome
And this is where you've always been
You had to lose so you could win
And rise above your troubles while you can
Now you can love, now you can lose
Now you can choose
That's the measure of a man
https://apnews.com/article/grants-p...-encampments-a8dcddb518bd76b11d409666c06701b8
What evidence do you have that the majority of homeless AREN'T drug addicts? You do realize that the "stats" are all based on self-reported polling.
As one that lives among the most dense homeless population in the country it's crystal clear that 90% of them are drug and alcohol addicts. Of course they'll swear to you, and the pollsters, they're clean even though you can see the needle marks up and down their legs and arms.
LOL you're pretty self-righteous for someone so consistently wrong.I mean, you can't prove a negative but of course you're right and only these lily white liberals who have never even seen a homeless person believe the homeless aren't all on drugs lmao.
There's a also a lot of young drug using liberals who are quick to argue that drugs have no negative consequences as a coping mechanism. They'll learn.
There are a massive number of working poor, many of them living out of their cars and going to work every day. They're all drug-addled waste cases too, are they?
Except that is not the thread topic, which is whether can you be fined for sleeping outside. Innocent people are being harassed, like the guy in the video above.No one's worried about them because they aren't causing problems. A lot of those guys are living like that by choice because they're rather live debt free than throw money away on rent every month.
As I've said before in this thread, the issue isn't that they're homeless it's all the fucking crimes they commit.
No one considers a young guy living the 'van life' lifestlye to be 'homeless' unless it's specifically to inflate the numbers and dillute the drug use/crime stats.
That must be why the government has set up safe injection sites and needle exchange programs. Because no one's doing heroin.
Then why is the R2 value so low when comparing drug use and homeless rate by state?
Please educate us on basic stats, I'm sure you're familiar with them?
If you're a homeless person, 99 times out of 100 you're either an addict or mentally defective. Most are beyond help and I'm tired of tax money going to make life in a ditch more comfortable instead of just taking care of the problem as aggressively as possible.I mean, you can't prove a negative but of course you're right and only these lily white liberals who have never even seen a homeless person believe the homeless aren't all on drugs lmao.
There's a also a lot of young drug using liberals who are quick to argue that drugs have no negative consequences as a coping mechanism. They'll learn.
I mean, you can't prove a negative but of course you're right and only these lily white liberals who have never even seen a homeless person believe the homeless aren't all on drugs lmao.
There's a also a lot of young drug using liberals who are quick to argue that drugs have no negative consequences as a coping mechanism. They'll learn.
Not sure what you're trying to argue here? That states with the more expensive housing tend to correlate with higher homelessness?
You know what's funny? When COVID happened, and I presented similar charts that were so obviously lopsided on a red/blue basis by state regarding mortality compared to vaccination rates, most leftists nodded, and it was mostly conservative anti-lockdown whiners who did mental gymnastics to deny the obvious. Yet, when you observe the staggering correlation to homelessness in these charts, suddenly that partisan blindness flips, and they somehow become incapable of connecting the dots.
He's pointing out blue states top the list, obviously.Not sure what you're trying to argue here? That states with the more expensive housing tend to correlate with higher homelessness?
Aren't you a libertarian who claims your ideology is based on leaving people alone?
He's trying to twist evidence to suit a prior held belief. From later in the article he got the graph from:He's pointing out blue states top the list, obviously.