Crime Charges Re-Filed against Alec Baldwin in 'Rust' Shooting. (Update: Armorer's Trial Started)

floivanus said:
The firearms expert on the set never said that; the prosecution’s expert witness repeatedly stated that
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From what I understood, they claimed to have used the shake test to distinguish between dummy and live rounds when loading the gun. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
 
Andy Capp said:
From what I understood, they claimed to have used the shake test to distinguish between dummy and live rounds when loading the gun. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
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That can’t really be how they do it, is it? I mean you should look at the fucking things and load it right before use. Not to mention, why is there ever even live ammo around them in the first place?
 
Blayt7hh said:
That can’t really be how they do it, is it? I mean you should look at the fucking things and load it right before use. Not to mention, why is there ever even live ammo around them in the first place?
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Again, it's just my understanding that that was the claim. I'm prepared to be proved wrong. I gathered that they said that in defense of the decision to bring live rounds onto the set--which should not have ever been there in the first place.
 
Andy Capp said:
From what I understood, they claimed to have used the shake test to distinguish between dummy and live rounds when loading the gun. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
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That the government expert said they shook rounds to see if they rattled? It’s in their testimony.

That live rounds rattle when shook? I have thousands of rounds of ammunition and have been a hand loader for years; with modern powders, especially in cartridges that were originally designed for black powder use, they use far less powder and rattle when shook. A typical check for many people is to shake and listen to a round if they think they didn’t put powder in when loading.
 
HockeyBjj said:
Definitely a good thing for making others take their job more seriously

I’m surprised it’s such a light sentence. Taking real ammo to a movie set and shooting them in prop guns for fun on a lunch break is the most irresponsible shit I’ve ever heard of
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I don’t recall that being brought up at trial at all, and there’s no proof Hannah brought any live ammunition to set herself (no receipts, no text messages, no cell phone footage) there’s a better claim that the prop house that supplied the blank ammunition gave them live ammunition, but had six weeks to clean up, cover evidence up and CYA, text messages between Sarah Zachary and another about “primed casings” and other components provided by PDX, the only thing is she and the business owner got immunity from prosecution for testifying against Hannah and Alec.

It was also the same brass manufacturer that they use to make blank ammunition, AND during the owner’s testimony he stated they didn’t provide ANY live ammunition to set, then stated they did provide live ammunition to the set for the henry rifle. There absolutely should’ve been enough reasonable doubt here.
 
Lady got 18 months in prison. Judge did a good job of explaining how she's a piece of shit and deserved the sentence. Video is just the judge talking. Pretty wild that people don't know to at least fake taking responsibility before they get sentenced.

 
Blayt7hh said:
That can’t really be how they do it, is it? I mean you should look at the fucking things and load it right before use. Not to mention, why is there ever even live ammo around them in the first place?
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There shouldn't be live ammo near the set, but nobody stepped in when the crew and actors shot live rounds for fun after a day's work. It was an unprofessional setting and it cost a poor woman her life.
 
Damn, they gave the armorer 18 months in prison. Doesn't bode well for Baldwin escaping prison time if he gets convicted.
 
Alec Balwin is a shit human being. Just because he made some SNL videos about Trump doesn't erase that fact.

 
bump her sentence to 24 months, and I’d totally agree with it
 
Dalarna3 said:
bump her sentence to 24 months, and I’d totally agree with it
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I think it's fair enough. Although, it must be frustrating for the family, watching these people kinda sorta get justice, while their daughter remains dead forever due to their incompetence. At the end of the day, I hope they sue the fuck out of the production company in a civil suit.
 
Alec Baldwin, 66, WILL go to trial after judge denied a motion to dismiss actor's involuntary manslaughter case following death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on Rust set

Alec Baldwin's trial for involuntary manslaughter in the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins will take place in July after a judge denied a motion to dismiss the case on Friday.

The 30 Rock star, 66 - who was recently seen with his one-year-old granddaughter Holland - is facing a maximum sentence of 18 months in prison if found guilty of manslaughter.

Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer in New Mexico rejected arguments made by the star's lawyers, Luke Nikas and Alex Spiro, according to Variety.

In a statement following the judge's decision, Baldwin's attorneys expressed, 'We look forward to our day in court.'

Sommer listened to arguments from both Alec's lawyers as well as prosecutors in court earlier this month on May 17 in Sante Fe, per NBC News.

One prosecutor, Kari Morrissey, stated that 'the actor has responsibility for the firearms once it is in their hands.'

However, Baldwin's lawyers argued that Morrissey did not provide important evidence to the grand jury earlier this year in January and defense witnesses were not available.

The judge stated in her ruling, per Variety, that Kari shared a letter to the grand jurors from the 'defense verbatim' but explained they made the choice to not 'follow up' on the letter.

'The Court is not in a position to second-guess the grand jury's decision in this regard,' Sommer expressed.

The judge later also added, 'Although the State deferred certain questions, in many other instances the grand jurors asked probative questions, and received complete answers from witnesses.'

In October 2021, Hutchins was fatally shot on the set of Rust, while the director of the film, Joel Souza, was injured.

Alec has plead not guilty ahead of the trial, and has also denied that he pulled the trigger on the gun and denied that it was his responsibility to make sure the gun was safe.

Last month in April, Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was sentenced 18 months in prison for involuntary manslaughter of Halyna Hutchins.
Shortly after, an expert warned that her sentence was 'a bad sign' for the actor as his trial date approaches.

Alec had been offered a plea deal last year that would have seen him serve no jail time in connection with the manslaughter of Hutchins.

Variety reported in March that the actor could decide whether to accept the terms, prosecutors pulled the offer and said they would be indicting him.

In a filing seen by the outlet, prosecutor Kari Morrissey offered 'a plea deal identical to the petty misdemeanor deal accepted by Dave Halls.

The filing stated that the offer was made on October 5 and Baldwin was given until October 27 to decide, but prosecutors rescinded the offer on October 17.
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White Whale said:
They said Baldwin pointed the gun and fired at the camera woman which is a big no no in the film industry.
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In fairness, I think it depends. Certain scenes call for it, but they're usually using prop guns that have been looked over. The big deal here are the live rounds that shouldn't be on any movie set. Even dummy rounds require a certain amount of safety protocols, because they can wad up and cause problems even without a bullet.
 
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