Media Demetrious Johnson Says Dana Lied About his Contract. Was told "We do Not Give PPV Points to Flyweight Guys"

There are people who BUY INTO celebrity / pro wrestler logic. (cm punk)

There are people who BUY INTO martial arts logic. (Demetrius)

UFC promotes toward one logic while using the other as a structure.

One clearly takes parents money (kids watching wrestling) as more valuable than,
adult hardcore fans. Same as any ART (or sport), hardcore users are often the most broke.

People buy flyweight fights, and had they promoted MightMouse better, he would be a bigger star.

The issue, is more people buy pro wrestling & celebrity bullshit, because they are casuals at life.

UFC promotes to casuals, confirmed.

Around Brock Lesnar, and then CM Punk, the real martial arts fans checked out on PAYING for UFC.

The ufc does not care because they promote to people who are not martial arts fans,
they are casual fans of anything. They hand over money based on personalities & fitting to team thinking in advertising / doublethink / doublespeak.

Real fans support amateur events, gyms, locals, the culture.

Casuals ... buy products advertised.

Demetrius being flyweight has nothing to do with it.
The UFC promotes heavyweight knockouts to casuals, pro-wrestlers turned MMA fighters to casuals, and blaming fighters for their weightclass is absurd.

UFC IS THE PROMOTIONAL SIDE.

It is not on the fighters to make instagram followers. The UFC can purchase bots like every other influencer does. Every rap kid does. Every Dj does. Every single 10k+ account on instagram has purchased followers. It is not hidden at all.

UFC did Demetrius dirty (for whatever reason). Yes flyweights had less finishes, but the action was far better than over-weight guys gassing round 1 and taking the bout to decisions.
All the UFC had to do, was market the flyweights for "the real hardcore mma fans",
and the casuals would have bought that shit up. FOMO in social advertising is 90% of the goal.

Whether it is a big event, or a one-time deal, or a discount savings of $1.00 off a bag of chips.
FOMO comes to those with weak minds, desires for attention, no understanding of self esteem.
Easier to buy into other ideas, rather than admitting casual.
<smellit>
Confirmed.
 
HereticBD said:
They promoted him just fine. He's just a safe boring point fighter with no personality.
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Johnson had 7 title fights that ended in him finishing his opponent and then had another 2 title fights that ended with Dana giving him FOTN.

???? (that's the complete opposite of boring and safe)
 
StonedLemur said:
Champs typically get between $1-$3 per PPV, and that shouldn't have taken 8 defenses to get, regardless of anything else.
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All this fake news, you have to sell above 200k to even get PPV points. DJ never sold above 200,000.
His best PPV might have been around 250k, so he might have pocketed 50k more lol.

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CasualBot said:
There are people who BUY INTO celebrity / pro wrestler logic. (cm punk)

There are people who BUY INTO martial arts logic. (Demetrius)

UFC promotes toward one logic while using the other as a structure.

One clearly takes parents money (kids watching wrestling) as more valuable than,
adult hardcore fans. Same as any ART (or sport), hardcore users are often the most broke.

People buy flyweight fights, and had they promoted MightMouse better, he would be a bigger star.

The issue, is more people buy pro wrestling & celebrity bullshit, because they are casuals at life.

UFC promotes to casuals, confirmed.

Around Brock Lesnar, and then CM Punk, the real martial arts fans checked out on PAYING for UFC.

The ufc does not care because they promote to people who are not martial arts fans,
they are casual fans of anything. They hand over money based on personalities & fitting to team thinking in advertising / doublethink / doublespeak.

Real fans support amateur events, gyms, locals, the culture.

Casuals ... buy products advertised.

Demetrius being flyweight has nothing to do with it.
The UFC promotes heavyweight knockouts to casuals, pro-wrestlers turned MMA fighters to casuals, and blaming fighters for their weightclass is absurd.

UFC IS THE PROMOTIONAL SIDE.

It is not on the fighters to make instagram followers. The UFC can purchase bots like every other influencer does. Every rap kid does. Every Dj does. Every single 10k+ account on instagram has purchased followers. It is not hidden at all.

UFC did Demetrius dirty (for whatever reason). Yes flyweights had less finishes, but the action was far better than over-weight guys gassing round 1 and taking the bout to decisions.
All the UFC had to do, was market the flyweights for "the real hardcore mma fans",
and the casuals would have bought that shit up. FOMO in social advertising is 90% of the goal.

Whether it is a big event, or a one-time deal, or a discount savings of $1.00 off a bag of chips.
FOMO comes to those with weak minds, desires for attention, no understanding of self esteem.
Easier to buy into other ideas, rather than admitting casual.
<smellit>
Confirmed.
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I don't think they didn't try to promote MM tbf. They stuck him as a FOX main a bunch of times which was the highest amount of eyes they could have got on him.

Even towards the end they ran a whole season of TUF focused around getting to fight him.

People just weren't interested in him for whatever reason. Doesn't seem he's been a draw for ONE either.
 
RockyLockridge said:
Mighty Mouse does not get the props he deserves, khabib gets all the props he deserves and thensome is really all I’m trying to tell you.

lol you’re a dumbass and most everything you said is wrong. (Except not drawing on fox) UFC 178 was supposed to be jones vs Gus 2, it was never billed to be headlined by Johnson. People lost interest in the event because the main event was a squash and it was never meant to be a main event also he did not fight under matched cans mostly, the few people he ever fought who were not worthy were swiftly or stylishly disposed of.
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178 had Conor vs. Dustin, Cowboy vs. Eddie, Romero vs. Kennedy, and stacked prelims. Show did barley over 200k. If anything Mighty Mouse took away buys.

Cariaso, Borg, Ali, Elliot had no business being in title fights.
 
TadDunbar said:
178 had Conor vs. Dustin, Cowboy vs. Eddie, Romero vs. Kennedy, and stacked prelims. Show did barley over 200k. If anything Mighty Mouse took away buys.

Cariaso, Borg, Ali, Elliot had no business being in title fights.
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And it showed because Mighty Mouse destroyed them all. He had many worthy challengers too, like Joe b who he beat twice. Joe b also fought for a title twice after Mighty Mouse left. Dodson twice, cejudo twice, Horiguchi, and Ali. Yes Ali had business in title fights, he was undefeated and looked good even popped for roids after getting destroyed.

The one you missed is Reis, I’d critique that before Ali, but anyways yeah they got owned so it’s not like those with no business being there got close or had competitive bouts. It’s not as if he had worthy challenges he was avoiding, he fought those guys because he was dominant and active.
 
loisestrad said:
Oh shit, people earning money for the company gets paid more than the one who doesn't?

Groundbreaking.
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All the fighters make money for the company, if they only stay with the "top guys" how many events could they put on each year? what would be the value of the company?

DJ was a champ, he should had been treated like all the other champs regardless of how popular he was, at the end of the day it was the UFC's job to promote him and the division and sign challenges for him.
 
If you don't want to give him ppv points for one reason or another that's a different story.

But for Dana to say he didn't want them. Why the hell wouldn't he want the ppv points?
 
RockyLockridge said:
A) hardcores don’t pay for fights doesn’t mean we don’t watch them
B) ufc never made many good cards with Mighty Mouse on it as a ppv. 178 not withstanding
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I see so hardcore fans don't want to pay for DJ fights either lol, that or you are implying hardcore fans only steal PPVs.

UFC 178 with 205,000 buys wow.
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Also, it is the main event that sells, rest of the card rarely matters. Look at McGregor vs Cerrone.

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Davidjacksonjones said:
Dana White didn't even financially support his elderly grandma who was living in a trailer park for 40 years, no chance he would care about some flyweight fighter

He even traded the GOAT flyweight for Ben Askren
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I'm gonna edit Dana's wiki to describe him as a philanthropist.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I don't think they didn't try to promote MM tbf. They stuck him as a FOX main a bunch of times which was the highest amount of eyes they could have got on him.

Even towards the end they ran a whole season of TUF focused around getting to fight him.

People just weren't interested in him for whatever reason. Doesn't seem he's been a draw for ONE either.
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They did not promote him as well as others, was the way most of us remember it.

We are comparing to all promotions for champs, and some champs have said similar.

We had a string of retiring champs, who didn't actually retire.

GSP, Silva, Conor, Henry, Jones, etc...

It was just a reflection of business, not marital arts fans.
 
Sean_wongster_wongmastter said:
I see so hardcore fans don't want to pay for DJ fights either lol, that or you are implying hardcore fans only steal PPVs.

UFC 178 with 205,000 buys wow.
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Also, it is the main event that sells, rest of the card rarely matters. Look at McGregor vs Cerrone.

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It was a replacement main event dumbass, It was only billed as the main event like a month before the event. Mouse vs Cariaso Was never meant to be the main event of this card.


my whole argument is that Johnson never had the starpower to headline cards, HE should be co-maining on big cards like they did with Joanna, Nunes, Shevchenko, Moreno and figgy.


We know it's the main event that sells the event, that was NEVER originally designated as a main event. Even Moreno vs figgy 4 didn't headline a PPV card. probably the most anticipated flyweight fight in history. johnson was never utilized correctly by the UFC, all those headlines you named proved it, because if any of his fights should not have been PPVS it's those ones you listed. and most of those are really weak cards.
 
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