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Is your view that "corporate America" was generally anti-vax?The anti-vaxx sentiment didnt ONLY work on rightists. That was part of my point, and if I insinuated that it did then I didnt mean to. It worked on people generally distrusting of either institutionalized medicine or the giant pharmaceutical industry, both of which have valid criticisms, and that this distrust was exacerbated to override the assurance of their Doctors. They were CONVINCED they knew better than their Doctors. Plenty of people who were moderate on vaccines, over all, went full batsh*t over the COVID vaccine. Confirmation bias plays a part, but suggesting that that's THE core of it is an oversimplification that seems to always conveniently pop up when it's time it's time absolve corporate America of any impact on society.
My observation was that the MSM and most companies were supportive of the effort to get people vaccinated and end the pandemic. That's precisely why people who were inclined to oppose it sought out charlatans that told them what they wanted to hear.
Note that the guy you were agreeing with has the exact opposite take. That the evil media is brainwashing people against Trump (and probably Reagan before him). How do you explain that? From my perspective, it's easy. People believe what they believe, often for tribalistic reasons, and then they assume that others who disagree with them are being brainwashed by the evil media.Why do you think anti-vaxx pundits wanted to debate even vaccine scientists publicly over it? Because making a vaccine scientist look inept with rhetoric is not difficult. This why since the advent of mass media, charisma can go much further than political or diplomatic skill when it comes to candidates. Trump is a living embodiment of this, so was Reagan, neither were skilled politicians, and they managed to capture the most powerful position in the World by convincing people they would be, and even after their cataclysmic failures, people who bought into it (even those who were NOT right wingers before), have a hard time admitting they were deceived into believing it even if that revelation comes FROM someone they trust.
Stage magicians don't actually have magical powers, and depending how you define "works," subliminal messaging doesn't work on anyone.Subliminal messaging is most certainly not entirely "junk science." If it was mentalists around the world would be cataclysmic failures at their jobs. It doesnt always work on highly skeptical people, or people who are paying close attention to what's happening, but the idea is that no one is always vigilant enough to ward it off entirely.
But they're your opponents on that. Again, Fox would probably say that people don't have enough disdain for Central Americans and that media brainwashing is the reason for that.Bernays didn't con my enemies. Bernays conned my people, my own grandparents to the degree that they had a healthy disdain for my Central American and Caribbean immigrant family members without knowing a single thing about them.