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Obviously he's talking about Ngannou.
to me it isn't obvious that Ngannou is an 'all time great power slugger' but, to each their own.
Obviously he's talking about Ngannou.
Any HW that hasn't been put down 5+ times.Name a heavyweight that has even close to as good of head movement since Ali. For a fat slob he’s very fast and skilled
Ngannou is an all-time great slugger in the MMA world. He seems to have good power even by boxing standards. Just not as much pop as Wilder & Joshua have but few do.to me it isn't obvious that Ngannou is an 'all time great power slugger' but, to each their own.
Ngannou He seems to have good power even by boxing standards.
We can agree on thatThat's nice for him, meanwhile in the world of pro boxing any elite heavyweight not an under-prepared slob should do exactly what Joshua did to Ngannou, or feel ashamed of themselves.
Fury's been dropped by guys half his size that can't punch for shit. Cunningham & Pajkic couldn't bust a grape but they made the Big GK eat canvas. Don't be surprised if Usyk does put him down. Seriously.At this point I know 100% the Usyk fan boys are trolling. Usyk will rock Fury with his power lol. Usyk is an outstanding boxer but if Fury took Wilder's best shot and beat him twice I don't think he's exactly going to be shook by little Usyk's power. I would be more worried about that cut getting opened up, everyone stopped talking about that but it has the potential to ruin the fight.
At this point I know 100% the Usyk fan boys are trolling. Usyk will rock Fury with his power lol. Usyk is an outstanding boxer but if Fury took Wilder's best shot and beat him twice I don't think he's exactly going to be shook by little Usyk's power. I would be more worried about that cut getting opened up, everyone stopped talking about that but it has the potential to ruin the fight.
to me it isn't obvious that Ngannou is an 'all time great power slugger' but, to each their own.
Ngannou is one of the most prolific KO artists in MMA. Some of that obviously transfered over to boxing where he dropped the giant world champion. Don't try to twist an innocuous comment into silliness.best head movement since Ali
Ngannou an all time great power slugger
every day is indeed a school day
Fury's been dropped by guys half his size that can't punch for shit. Cunningham & Pajkic couldn't bust a grape but they made the Big GK eat canvas. Don't be surprised if Usyk does put him down. Seriously.
Usyk probably has more power than those dudes. But it wasn't really their power that did it. You can see street fights with average-sized, untrained people who will sometimes knock their opponents out cold. There are even videos of women KOing their boyfriends. KOs are more about hitting the bullseye, accuracy, timing, angle, unexpectedness etc.Does Usyk punch with discernibly less power than USS Cunningham?
You can make a case for him bc he’s accomplished so much first ever undisputed in CW and HW which probably won’t ever happen again ? He was undefeated in WSOB as well ,Olympic gold etc etc…….anyone who has him as the goat can make a case for it . Personally I thought defeating AJ twice is much harder then this fight but we’ll find out ,all the chips are stacked against him with the judges etc….so he might have to chance things he normally wouldn’t .The real question is, where do you guys have Usyk if he beats Fury tomorrow? He was arguably the greatest Cruiserweight of all time with Glowacki, Huck, Gassiev, Briedis, Bellew. He has a Semi pro win over Joe Joyce, then at HW he's beaten Joshua twice and Dubois. Where does a win over Fury put him all time? Unified Cruiserweight champ and Unified Heavyweight? What more can he even do, go back down and fight Jai? Was he in an era simply too weak?
lol, no.
The best fighters on Fury's resume are Wlad, Wilder and Usyk, making the assumption Fury were to win this weekend. Now I'd say most people still consider Ali the GOAT HW. No way do those 3 names add up to what Ali accomplished. Not even close. I'd argue his resume isn't better than Mike Tyson's really.
Which is much different than being GOAT or a highly rated heavyweight ATG.
Was Floyd active and in or near his prime still? No. Even if you don't think that he carried him Floyd was retired, didn't train like Fury, and Conor is a much bigger man who actually had an amateur boxing background. Floyd's strategy was clearly to have Conor punch himself out and then stop him which he did. He knew he wouldn't be able to handle the pace.
Fury couldn't even adjust to Ngannou. Not one adjustment was made by him. He was befuddled.
That's what separates him from the real GOATS.
So you admit he doesn't have it. What about skills? Like name a skill. Because most people here will be able to name a household HW name that did it better. Oh & remember size isn't a skill its an attribute.
Can I get you to confirm that you are saying Fury has a comparable resume to Ali? I'd prefer not to misquote you.But you are a fury hater so lol…
Wlad is an atg, Usyk is an all time great.
I think if he beats Joshua he’s up there
Ngannou is an all-time great slugger in the MMA world. He seems to have good power even by boxing standards. Just not as much pop as Wilder & Joshua have but few do.