Jones @ -300 fav, Gus +210

milenss said:
Are you stupid or what..?
-133 means you have to put 100 to take 133 for Jones.
+310 means you have to put 100 to take 310 for Gustafsson.

How will you make money if, let say, you put 100 on Jones and 100 on Gustaffson? (given Jones wins, which according to the bookie is the much more possible scenario)?
You will eventually earn the net sum of 33$. And you would have lost 100$ which means that you will be a total of -67$ down.
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Run your calculation using -133 and betting $266 on Jones and +310 betting $100 on Gustafsson
 
This would be a good time to make money by betting on Gus if that's how the line will be on the night of the fight. Jones should definitely be the favorite, but Gus has a great chance to upset him.
 
Mebetter said:
Run your calculation using -133 and betting $266 on Jones and +310 betting $100 on Gustafsson
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You must be retarded. Are you?

I made the calculation for you, and it goes for whatever sum you put in.
Or do you think that the odds become different with different numbers? lol
 
It’s amazing how many so-called hardcores are completely ignoring the first fight.

Basically just accepting the “was partying” excuse and banking on the myth that Jones’ boxing has improved.
 
milenss said:
You must be retarded. Are you?

I made the calculation for you, and it goes for whatever sum you put in.
Or do you think that the odds become different with different numbers? lol
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How is he so ignorant yet so confident? He had all these opportunities to realize he has no clue what he's saying yet he kept going, guns a blazing.
 
Mr Clown said:
Let’s be honest, even if Jones was clean he is going to beat Gus. He is just a more skilled fighter. Gus has been given more free titty shots than anyone else I know, and he is over hyped.
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You're stupid lol
 
milenss said:
Are you stupid or what..?
-133 means you have to put 100 to take 133 for Jones.
+310 means you have to put 100 to take 310 for Gustafsson.

How will you make money if, let say, you put 100 on Jones and 100 on Gustaffson? (given Jones wins, which according to the bookie is the much more possible scenario)?
You will eventually earn the net sum of 33$. And you would have lost 100$ which means that you will be a total of -67$ down.
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milenss said:
You must be retarded. Are you?

I made the calculation for you, and it goes for whatever sum you put in.
Or do you think that the odds become different with different numbers? lol
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We got a hell of a bookie here. A real shark.
 
milenss said:
Are you stupid or what..?
-133 means you have to put 100 to take 133 for Jones.
+310 means you have to put 100 to take 310 for Gustafsson.

How will you make money if, let say, you put 100 on Jones and 100 on Gustaffson? (given Jones wins, which according to the bookie is the much more possible scenario)?
You will eventually earn the net sum of 33$. And you would have lost 100$ which means that you will be a total of -67$ down.
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milenss said:
You must be retarded. Are you?

I made the calculation for you, and it goes for whatever sum you put in.
Or do you think that the odds become different with different numbers? lol
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@milenss you might be trolling but I like talking about this stuff so I'm gonna proceed with this.....

-133 doesn't mean you have to bet $100 to win $133. It means you have to bet $133 to win $100.

If you do as @Mebetter said you'd bet $366 total. If Jones wins, you return $200 profit plus the $266 you bet = $466 = $100 profit overall. If Gustafsson wins, you return $310 profit plus the $100 you bet = $410 = $44 profit overall. That's a guaranteed ROI of at least 12% (if Gus wins), which is extremely good, and a potential ROI of 27% (if Jones wins), which is obviously even better.

This type of betting is called arbitrage betting, where you play both sides to guarantee profit. These situations can be easily spotted by looking for lines where the underdog is a bigger underdog than the favorite is a favorite, in moneyline odds. E.g. Underdog Gustafsson's 310 is much bigger than favorite Jones's 133, which is why you can guarantee such stupidly high profits as shown above, and also why this particular line would never exist. An example of a real arb bet currently exists for Mendes/Volkanovski, albeit barely; you can get Mendes @ -142 @ BookMaker and Volk @ +143 @ SportBet.

In arb betting, you can calculate the correct amount to bet to weigh the profits how you'd like depending on which fighter wins.

For example, let's say you have $1000 to bet. If you wanna play it straight down the middle and win the same amount no matter who wins, you'd bet $700.63 on Jones and $299.37 on Gustafsson; no matter who wins, you'd profit £227.42. Alternatively, let's say you think Jones wins, but wanna break even if Gus wins; you'd bet $756.10 on Jones and $243.90 on Gustafsson, breaking even if Gus wins, but winning £324.59 if Jones wins. Or let's go the other way -- you think Gus wins but wanna break even if Jones wins; you'd bet $570.82 on Jones and $429.18 on Gustafsson, breaking even if Jones wins, but winning $759.66 if Gustafsson wins. Finally, you could go somewhere in between these limits if you want, to weight the profits how you'd like.
 
milenss said:
The odds are pretty one-sided from what I see.

Is that mainly because of the turabinol thing or because he devastated Cormier?
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Because Jones is a known roider pretty much. His record helps a bit, but I'm sure the bookies also saw him get rekt by Gus the first time as well, and I'm sure this is more to do about him being a roid head rather than anything else.

Lets face it, the dude is cheating and getting a pass. The bookies see this.
 
Gus is a great bet here. Odds don't get much better than that on a fight I think most fans are calling 50/50.
 
For me the chances of both fighters are quite close so I don't know why is this difference.
 
johncola said:
@milenss you might be trolling but I like talking about this stuff so I'm gonna proceed with this.....

-133 doesn't mean you have to bet $100 to win $133. It means you have to bet $133 to win $100.

If you do as @Mebetter said you'd bet $366 total. If Jones wins, you return $200 profit plus the $266 you bet = $466 = $100 profit overall. If Gustafsson wins, you return $310 profit plus the $100 you bet = $410 = $44 profit overall. That's a guaranteed ROI of at least 12% (if Gus wins), which is extremely good, and a potential ROI of 27% (if Jones wins), which is obviously even better.

This type of betting is called arbitrage betting, where you play both sides to guarantee profit. These situations can be easily spotted by looking for lines where the underdog is a bigger underdog than the favorite is a favorite, in moneyline odds. E.g. Underdog Gustafsson's 310 is much bigger than favorite Jones's 133, which is why you can guarantee such stupidly high profits as shown above, and also why this particular line would never exist. An example of a real arb bet currently exists for Mendes/Volkanovski, albeit barely; you can get Mendes @ -142 @ BookMaker and Volk @ +143 @ SportBet.

In arb betting, you can calculate the correct amount to bet to weigh the profits how you'd like depending on which fighter wins.

For example, let's say you have $1000 to bet. If you wanna play it straight down the middle and win the same amount no matter who wins, you'd bet $700.63 on Jones and $299.37 on Gustafsson; no matter who wins, you'd profit £227.42. Alternatively, let's say you think Jones wins, but wanna break even if Gus wins; you'd bet $756.10 on Jones and $243.90 on Gustafsson, breaking even if Gus wins, but winning £324.59 if Jones wins. Or let's go the other way -- you think Gus wins but wanna break even if Jones wins; you'd bet $570.82 on Jones and $429.18 on Gustafsson, breaking even if Jones wins, but winning $759.66 if Gustafsson wins. Finally, you could go somewhere in between these limits if you want, to weight the profits how you'd like.
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Yeah. Edited the thread title. It got me confused because I'm not used to the American format. I've tried to convert the decimal to American and it looks like I've got it wrong. But I hope you got my idea.
 
milenss said:
Are you stupid or what..?
-133 means you have to put 100 to take 133 for Jones.
+310 means you have to put 100 to take 310 for Gustafsson.

How will you make money if, let say, you put 100 on Jones and 100 on Gustaffson? (given Jones wins, which according to the bookie is the much more possible scenario)?
You will eventually earn the net sum of 33$. And you would have lost 100$ which means that you will be a total of -67$ down.
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I'm guilty of my own criticisms.... there are so many ways bets are differently viewed depending on where you come from, what site or what house- book- casino you're making MMA boxing wagers .
Traditionally if you go to bestfightodds.com , that's how you usually see odds set up (favorite the bigger number underdog the smaller .....and the bigger favorite, the more they cut in between)...
No biggie , my bad ( for understanding there are different ways books apply fight odds to begin with- lol , it's what I do)
 
Gus has several losses and Jones has zero, yes they had a close fight before and that's the only reason the odds aren't something ridiculous like -1500 for Jones.
 
The only negative aspect I see in regards to Jones is if he is severely affected mentally due to this steroid debacle. Everybody hates him right now and this must affect him mentally. If he keeps his focus and doesn't let it affect him, he will crush Gus.
 
Goat vs a guy who got multiple title shots and always fails.yeah
 
Gus has no top wins unless you count a battle worn Shogun. Jones really has never lost.
 
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