Social Joy Reid Defends Books with Pedophilia in Public School Librairies

Islam Imamate said:
The memoirs are in the young adult category so they are age appropriate for high school students which is why they are almost always in high school libraries. The reason I would be against them being assigned reading is because students only read a few books throughout their high school years so there's an opportunity cost to assigning books as part of the curriculum that is far greater than when stocking a library with thousands of books.
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I get your point about choosing the best books for the assigned reading assignments because you only get a certain amount of them per year but I just don't find it to have any relevancy to the topic at hand.

I don't think they should be in high school libraries either. If the book depicts images of people blowing each other and graphic information about performing dominantly like your favorite porn star, then it doesn't belong in the public school system. There are plenty of ways to educate kids in a much more appropriate way than that. If you as a parent want to give your kid that type of content, then by all means do it but our public education system should not be in the business of giving kids access to graphic sexual content.

If there was a video library, the school wouldn't have an educational video with a graphic sex scene in it but they'll play mental gymnastics to ensure they can do the same thing with books. Both are inappropriate.
 
RoastBeast said:
I get your point about choosing the best books for the assigned reading assignments because you only get a certain amount of them per year but I just don't find it to have any relevancy to the topic at hand.
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My point is simply that the context here matters. Merely having these books as one of thousands in a library is very different form having them as one of like half a dozen assigned readings.
RoastBeast said:
I don't think they should be in high school libraries either. If the book depicts images of people blowing each other and graphic information about performing dominantly like your favorite porn star, then it doesn't belong in the public school system. There are plenty of ways to educate kids in a much more appropriate way than that. If you as a parent want to give your kid that type of content, then by all means do it but our public education system should not be in the business of giving kids access to graphic sexual content.

If there was a video library, the school wouldn't have an educational video with a graphic sex scene in it but they'll play mental gymnastics to ensure they can do the same thing with books. Both are inappropriate.
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Well I disagree and apparently so do most of the school boards that have had this book challenged. In fact as I showed earlier ITT in one case the book Gender Queer was challenged twice and so after the 2nd challenge the entire school board read it and reaffirmed their decision to keep them in schools. That has to count for something.
 
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Islam Imamate said:
My point is simply that the context ehre matters. Merely having these books as one of thousands in a library is very different form having them as one of like half a dozen assigned readings.

Well I disagree and apparently so do most of the school boards that have had this book challenged. In fact as I showed earlier ITT in one case the book Gender Queer was challenged twice and so after the 2nd challenge the entire school board read it and reaffirmed their decision to keep them in schools. That has to count for something.
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Can you please link that article about the school board deciding to keep the book again?
 
Islam Imamate said:
My point is simply that the context ehre matters. Merely having these books as one of thousands in a library is very different form having them as one of like half a dozen assigned readings.

Well I disagree and apparently so do most of the school boards that have had this book challenged. In fact as I showed earlier ITT in one case the book Gender Queer was challenged twice and so after the 2nd challenge the entire school board read it and reaffirmed their decision to keep them in schools. That has to count for something.
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Your first point is true but like I was trying to say pages ago, it's another argument that sends the discussion about inappropriate books off on a pointless tangent.

Those school boards are wrong. Just google "Gender queer excerpts" and read the page about tasting your own "vagina slime" and tell me that it's acceptable for the public school system. That's just one page of many that is inappropriate. The book is insanely inappropriate, confusing and is probably only being kept in schools so the radical left doesn't go after them for being "transphobic".
 
BFoe said:
These books aren’t porn. In banned.
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The committee said of Gender Queer:
  • The book is a well-written, scientifically based narrative of one person’s journey with gender identity that contains information and perspective that is not widely represented. This depiction includes the difficulties nonbinary and asexual individuals may face. The book has literary value in its structure, voice, and themes and has won literary awards.
  • Students with a related experience will feel affirmed and others can gain understanding and empathy.
  • The resources referenced in the book provide access to additional, reliable information.
  • The book neither depicts nor describes pedophilia.
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Gender Queer has a passage where the author as a 14yr fantasized about being fondled by an adult and is accompanied with a picture depicting it.

We can debate if that's pedophilia, but it sounds worse than what Max Hardcore got charged for doing.
 
PhitePhan said:
@Sara abandoned the conversation after I showed her that about 50% of committed homosexual relationships allow sex outside of the relationship.
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No Sara has no interest in bigots, even if they support removing this book from an elementary school.
 
Sara said:
No Sara has no interest in bigots, even if they support removing this book from an elementary school.
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Telling the truth isn’t bigotry, and the truth is that 50% of committed homosexual relationships have sex outside of the relationship while gay men in particular have very high rates of STDs… as such, it’s not a lifestyle I would want for my children.
 
PhitePhan said:
Telling the truth isn’t bigotry, and the truth is that 50% of committed homosexual relationships have sex outside of the relationship while gay men in particular have very high rates of STDs… as such, it’s not a lifestyle I would want for my children.
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Of the open relationships how many have children?
 
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