Social Kyle Rittenhouse updates

Social Distance Warrior said:
insurance apparently.

not kidding. he actually pulled the "uhh...they were insured so everything will be ok" argument.
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To that point I say there's life insurance for the pedophile, burglar, and domestic abuser. He's also one of the last people whos opinions should be considered as he's admitted to being "emotional" over this topic.
 
Social Distance Warrior said:
Goebbles would be proud of how effectively the US media can craft a narrative and have simpletons regurgitate it ad nauseum as we have seen here.

again, even with video footage, we have many folks here doubling down on this false premise that Rittenhouse murdered someone in cold blood...that he went there for the sole purpose of raising havoc.
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https://us.yahoo.com/news/gun-coffee-brand-maga-royalty-194204352.html


The far right thought it had found the ideal breakfast beverage company. Then it took a big sip of Black Rifle Coffee and checked the news.

For years, Black Rifle Coffee Company has been at the vanguard of an emerging conservative coffee movement. Customers can start their day with a “Thin Blue Line” Keurig cup, or wind down with a nice mug of “Combat Cocoa.” This isn’t coffee for WIMPS and CIVILIANS, the company’s branding implies; it’s TACTICAL CAFFEINATION for OPERATORS.

But not even that branding has been enough to save BRCC from attacks by its far-right former fans, who accuse the company of being inadequately militant because it declined to sponsor a teenager accused of murdering Black Lives Matter protesters.

BRCC’s trouble began shortly after accused murderer Kyle Rittenhouse was bailed out of jail last week. Rittenhouse is accused of shooting three people (two of them fatally) at a Black Lives Matter protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin earlier this year. Rittenhouse, 17, became a hero of the militant far right, especially of groups like the Proud Boys that openly lust for violence against the left.

Shortly after supporters posted Rittenhouse’s $2 million bail, the host of a conservative podcast that partners with BRCC tweeted a picture of Rittenhouse in a BRCC shirt. The picture, plus its caption (“Kyle Rittenhouse drinks the best coffee in America”) led viewers to believe BRCC was partnering with Rittenhouse.

That wasn’t the case, BRCC clarified this weekend. In a video, the company’s CEO Evan Hafer stated that BRCC had not and would not sponsor Rittenhouse.
 
The Big Bang said:
https://us.yahoo.com/news/gun-coffee-brand-maga-royalty-194204352.html


The far right thought it had found the ideal breakfast beverage company. Then it took a big sip of Black Rifle Coffee and checked the news.

For years, Black Rifle Coffee Company has been at the vanguard of an emerging conservative coffee movement. Customers can start their day with a “Thin Blue Line” Keurig cup, or wind down with a nice mug of “Combat Cocoa.” This isn’t coffee for WIMPS and CIVILIANS, the company’s branding implies; it’s TACTICAL CAFFEINATION for OPERATORS.

But not even that branding has been enough to save BRCC from attacks by its far-right former fans, who accuse the company of being inadequately militant because it declined to sponsor a teenager accused of murdering Black Lives Matter protesters.

BRCC’s trouble began shortly after accused murderer Kyle Rittenhouse was bailed out of jail last week. Rittenhouse is accused of shooting three people (two of them fatally) at a Black Lives Matter protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin earlier this year. Rittenhouse, 17, became a hero of the militant far right, especially of groups like the Proud Boys that openly lust for violence against the left.

Shortly after supporters posted Rittenhouse’s $2 million bail, the host of a conservative podcast that partners with BRCC tweeted a picture of Rittenhouse in a BRCC shirt. The picture, plus its caption (“Kyle Rittenhouse drinks the best coffee in America”) led viewers to believe BRCC was partnering with Rittenhouse.

That wasn’t the case, BRCC clarified this weekend. In a video, the company’s CEO Evan Hafer stated that BRCC had not and would not sponsor Rittenhouse.
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Yahoo...
 
Oxycodone said:
No it literally doesn't. Hitting someone with a skateboard is not attempted murder.
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I'm really curious about this particular point. Like how many times should he let someone hit him with a skateboard before shooting? Is it two times? Three times? Once he's concussed?

If someone is hitting you with an intent to cause injury with an item that has the very real risk of knocking you unconscious, at what point is it acceptable to defend yourself?

I'm all for punishing those who demonstrate excessive force when they've taken control of a situation, but do you really think it was at play here? Do you think Kyle had any reasonable option of escape/response? And do you think in the heat of the moment that its irrational for him to be sincerely concerned for his well-being noting what has already happened and the commentary/atmospherics around him?
 
Telford90 said:
I'm really curious about this particular point. Like how many times should he let someone hit him with a skateboard before shooting? Is it two times? Three times? Once he's concussed?
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It’s a not a question of quantity but of intent. If there is an intent to commit murder, then it would be classified as such. Otherwise, it’s just assault.

I'm all for punishing those who demonstrate excessive force when they've taken control of a situation, but do you really think it was at play here? Do you think Kyle had any reasonable option of escape/response? And do you think in the heat of the moment that its irrational for him to be sincerely concerned for his well-being noting what has already happened and the commentary/atmospherics around him?
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Kyle’s first victim was killed unnecessarily and the crowd of people reacted to it accordingly. They were trying to disarm/neutralize an armed killer. You can’t panic and start killing unarmed people then cry self-defense and shoot 2 more people when a crowd tries to apprehend you.
 
Oxycodone said:
They were trying to disarm/neutralize an armed killer. You can’t panic and start killing unarmed people then cry self-defense and shoot 2 more people when a crowd tries to apprehend you.
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This is the part where we turn the narrative back around.

The whole argument that Kyle shouldn't have been there, shouldn't have been "policing his community, and shouldn't have been protecting local businesses. Because....

...dramatic pause...

...he should have let the police handle it.

Well.

Here's a thought. Apply that same logic to the 3 people who ATTACKED HIM. Maybe they should have let the police handle it? Especially considering he was running right at them.
 
Oxycodone said:
It’s a not a question of quantity but of intent. If there is an intent to commit murder, then it would be classified as such. Otherwise, it’s just assault.


Kyle’s first victim was killed unnecessarily and the crowd of people reacted to it accordingly. They were trying to disarm/neutralize an armed killer. You can’t panic and start killing unarmed people then cry self-defense and shoot 2 more people when a crowd tries to apprehend you.
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Actually yes, you can shoot people who are trying to attack you when you're obviously armed. It's fucking ridiculous to say that a person holding a rifle should let himself get chased down and beaten. He's got a lethal weapon on his person and if he's incapacitated in any way then that weapon can be used against him. He's absolutely in the right to use that weapon to defend himself against a crazed maniac throwing flaming debris at him and chasing him down.

And those idiots from the mob that attacked him were vigilantes and had no business putting their hands on him. Period. Kyle was clearly fleeing and was not a threat to the crowd. Those people should have gotten law enforcement. They had no right to try and take the law into their own hands. They should have pointed law enforcement in the right direction and stayed out of it. Kyle was under no obligation to allow himself to fall victim to mob justice.

If you chase down a victim who's trying to escape and you get your wig shot off by said victim, I have zero... Repeat.... ZERO sympathy for you.

Kyle is 10000% a victim in this situation.
 
Stoic1 said:
This is the part where we turn the narrative back around.

The whole argument that Kyle shouldn't have been there, shouldn't have been "policing his community, and shouldn't have been protecting local businesses. Because....

...dramatic pause...

...he should have let the police handle it.

Well.

Here's a thought. Apply that same logic to the 3 people who ATTACKED HIM. Maybe they should have let the police handle it? Especially considering he was running right at them.
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Yeah, let’s just misrepresent my argument completely and fight that instead of applying any level of reading comprehension.

He had no legal authority to police the area, had no right to possess the rifle, and had no experience in high-pressure situations. He put himself in the middle of an emotionally-charged protest and exacerbated it by aiming his illegally-obtained rifle at people.
 
Oxycodone said:
Apart from a couple guys like @Ares Black and @Jack V Savage, the War Room is full of simpletons & bigots. I really would hate to be mistaken for anyone else here.
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Ironically, @Ares Black and you never used to show your faces in the War Room until after the election. So good for us, you both will disappear from here once your excitement from yhe election has worn off.

Lucky us, you've absolutely embarrassed yourself in this thread.
 
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