Social Muslim protestors chant 'death to America, death to Israel at rally in Dearborn Michigan after city was branded 'Jihad capital' of U.S. by WSJ

[Rational Poster]

You're the one tossing around blanket statements like all Palestinians don't want peace. Perhaps you need to be more specific in your language since it would be odd to consider Palestinian children not Palestinian.

Nothing I said was false.

Again, you can't deny that reality that the Palestinians do not want peace only make excuses from it and try to run away from it.

But until the Palestinians want peace themselves there will be no peace. A ceasefire isn't going to do anything, they will just break it if not immediately like the last two, then eventually once Israel lets their guard down again.

I don't need to be a more specific. This but the children stuff is such gross emotional propaganda.

Where or when in history has any country adhered to the wishes of children? lmao

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

Trump is 100% right, illegals shouldn't be coming to America. Biden loves these illegals bc of their young kids and that they parents will be Dem voters, bought and paid for. Its all by design though. The 1% are using the politicians to further extend the gap between the poor, by making the middle class even poorer. The poors/illegals don't pay shit in taxes, and in fact are given free shit bc how poor they is be.

While who pays for all this? The filthy rich and celebs who keep calling for this?

Or the middle class, who is being dragged back down. America isn't anything but a joke. Everything by the govt is fucked bc of corruption at the local, state and federal levels.

Dude you drinking up all the kool-Aid bro. Illegals don’t pay no taxes? You’re a buffoon if you believe that! Everything anyone buys n the US is taxed gas, food, cars, etc. Not only do they pay taxes they don’t get money in return like we do after filing our taxes. The government keeps all that money but you want to believe what the orange diaper Don says!

 

[avenue94]

Again, you can't deny that reality that the Palestinians do not want peace only make excuses from it and try to run away from it.

To be clear, you are lumping in people who have been given no chance to develop a concept of what peace would look like. Let's make this simple. Should an 18year old American be held responsible for the invasion of Iraq and any American atrocities that followed? If you are consistent, then your answer is absolutely yes.

I don't need to be a more specific. This but the children stuff is such gross emotional propaganda.

The average age of a Palestinian is signifncalty younger than almost any country. Hence the opinions of minors in Palestine is quiet relevant.

 

[fica]

Lol how many of these are paid actors like during gf protest some do want america dead i at least want it out of that part of the world but most of these people are paid actors.

 

[checktheknuckles]

Dude you drinking up all the kool-Aid bro. Illegals don’t pay no taxes? You’re a buffoon if you believe that! Everything anyone buys n the US is taxed gas, food, cars, etc. Not only do they pay taxes they don’t get money in return like we do after filing our taxes. The government keeps all that money but you want to believe what the orange diaper Don says!

I'm not talking about buying taxes, I"m talking about SS, state and federal taxes. You know the ones that make all these social justice warrior programs happen. Also they clogging up emergency rooms, terrible ass drivers with no insurance, and the list goes on. They illegals for a reason. You want to come to the USA, come over legally. Take the proper paths, which is allowed. How stupid do you got to be to think millions of illegals coming over, receiving free shit while not paying taxes is a good thing? Why would you not want them to come over legally? But keep voting for pedo biden.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Jon can threaten to kill someone and get arrested the next day, but the religion of peace protesters can threaten death upon others and Biden, Kamala, AOC want to build statues for these jihadists.

Jon Jones is another victim of lawfare.

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

I'm not talking about buying taxes, I"m talking about SS, state and federal taxes. You know the ones that make all these social justice warrior programs happen. Also they clogging up emergency rooms, terrible ass drivers with no insurance, and the list goes on. They illegals for a reason. You want to come to the USA, come over legally. Take the proper paths, which is allowed. How stupid do you got to be to think millions of illegals coming over, receiving free shit while not paying taxes is a good thing? Why would you not want them to come over legally? But keep voting for pedo biden.

Why don’t you go back to your country or where your ancestors are from because you guys don’t belong here! No one is illegal on stolen land hitler.
Got on your mayflower ship and kick rocks !

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

Why don’t you go back to your country or where your ancestors are from because you guys don’t belong here! No one is illegal on stolen land hitler.
Got on your mayflower ship and kick rocks !

There is a reason why so many people want to come here specifically, and it isn't because any land was stolen.

Many of our ancestors are the reason why all of these migrants want to come here now.

Why are they walking straight through Mexico to the US? If they want to escape their terrible homeland, then why not stay in a neighboring country?

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

Just out of curiosity, are there any other countries who give illegals all kinds of free shit like we do in the US?

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

There is a reason why so many people want to come here specifically, and it isn't because any land was stolen.

Why are they walking straight through Mexico to the US? If they want to escape their terrible homeland, then why not stay in a neighboring country?

Not walking through shit bro! I’m here born and raised sucka!

 

[Yorick]

On the topic of free/protected/hate speech, it seems odd and incongruent that Garland would have the DOJ consider parents who want to be involved with their children's learning as 'domestic terrorists' while giving demonstrably hate-filled, anti-American protestors a free pass.

In the never-ending quest for 'tolerance' the liberal administration will go so far as to accept, and some would say even promote, anti-American/violent rhetoric as protected speech. ("it depends on the context" remember)

I hope that Wray and his Fucked Bureau of Investigation is monitoring these haters the way they monitored doctors who refused to advocate for blanket vaccination during the Shamdemic.

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

Not walking through shit bro! I’m here born and raised sucka!

Do you think that millions of people would be traveling to the United States if it were still populated with nothing but Indian Tribes?

 

[checktheknuckles]

Why don’t you go back to your country or where your ancestors are from because you guys don’t belong here! No one is illegal on stolen land hitler.
Got on your mayflower ship and kick rocks !

People can come over legally. How is the land stolen? It was taken. Big difference there buddy. And the land was stolen from the Mexicans? LMAO You Trumpettes.

 

[checktheknuckles]

Jon Jones is another victim of lawfare.

Its obvious Jon only did it bc of the action of some whities 700+ years ago. I say, let Jon free.

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

People can come over legally. How is the land stolen? It was taken. Big difference there buddy. And the land was stolen from the Mexicans? LMAO You Trumpettes.

Its was stolen from the native people and they brought over dirty diseases! So your European ancestors came here legally? Clown you know you’re full of shit now baby cakes. Get off that old man’s junk

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

Do you think that millions of people would be traveling to the United States if it were still populated with nothing but Indian Tribes?

Does it matter that this land is not your? Then don’t try to have people follow laws because now you don’t want them here on there homeland.

 

[checktheknuckles]

Its was stolen from the native people and they brought over dirty diseases! So your European ancestors came here legally? Clown you know you’re full of shit now baby cakes. Get off that old man’s junk

It wasn't stolen. It was taken by force. Pretty much how everything happened in history. And either way, we all came from the same continent Pangea, so no one is stealing anything from anyone.

And how racists are you to consider Native american's illegals? Native Americans or Indians, are already legal. So try and stay on topic.

 

[kflo]

You're the one tossing around blanket statements like all Palestinians don't want peace. Perhaps you need to be more specific in your language since it would be odd to consider Palestinian children not Palestinian.

Press Release: Public Opinion Poll No (91) | PCPSR

www.pcpsr.org

• Finally, we asked the public about if it is for or against an idea of a long-term vision for the day after in which the US and an Arab coalition comprising Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan would develop a plan that would strengthen the PA, restore negotiations based on the two-state solution, and bring about an Arab-Israeli peace and normalization. Almost three quarters (73%) said it stands against the idea and only 23% said it stands for it. It is worth noting that the support for the idea among Gazans is much higher than it is among West Bankers, 36% and 14% respectively.+
• When asked if Hamas did commit these atrocities that are seen in these videos, the overwhelming majority (93%) said no, it did not, and only 5% said it did. As shown in the figure below, the belief that Hamas fighters have committed atrocities against civilians is higher among those who did watch videos showing such atrocities (17%) compared to those who did not (2%).
• As we did in our previous poll three months ago, we asked the respondents in this poll what they thought of Hamas’ decision to launch the October the 7th offensive. A vast majority of 71%, compared to 72% in December 2023, say it was correct. However, despite the stability of the total response, the findings do show significant change when looking at the two areas separately. As the figure below shows, the perception that the decision of the offensive was correct drops in the West Bank by 11 points and increases in the Gaza Strip by 14 points.
• When asked about their own preferences for the party that should be in control in the Gaza Strip after the war, 59% (64% in the West Bank and 52% in the Gaza Strip) selected Hamas; 13% selected the PA without President Abbas; 11% selected the PA with Abbas; 3% selected one or more Arab country;1% selected the UN, and 1% selected the Israeli army. Three months ago, we asked an identical question, but with a slightly different set of options to choose from. At that time, a similar percentage (60% in total; 75% in the West Bank and 38% in the Gaza Strip) selected Hamas as the party preferred by the respondents to control the Gaza Strip after the war. The change in the preferences of the Gazans, with a 14-point increase among them selecting Hamas today, is one of the most intriguing findings of the current poll. But it is consistent with the increase, indicated above, in the percentage of Gazans who think Hamas will win the current war. This is particularly interesting because the opposite happened in the West Bank, with the preference for Hamas dropping significantly by 11 points. Yet, this West Bank finding is consistent with the significant decrease by 14 points, also indicated above, in the percentage of West Bankers who think Hamas will win the war.
• When asked which political party or political trend they support, the largest percentage selected Hamas (34%), followed by Fatah (17%), while 11% selected other or third-party groups, and 37% said none of them or did not know.
• However, if new parliamentary elections were held today with the participation of all political forces that participated in the 2006 elections, only 64% say they would participate in them, 30% would vote for Hamas, 14% for Fatah, 6% for third parties, and 15% remain undecided.
• 49% (compared to 54% three months ago) believe that Hamas is the most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people today while 17% (compared to 13% three months ago) believe that Fateh under the leadership of Abbas is more deserving; 29% (compared to 26% three months ago) believe both are unworthy of representation and leadership. Six months ago, 27% said Hamas is the most deserving, 24% said Fateh led by Abbas is the most deserving, and 44% said both are unworthy of representation and leadership.
• 45% support and 52% oppose the idea of a two-state solution, which was presented to the public without providing details of the solution. Three months ago, support for this solution in a similar question stood at 34% and six months ago support stood at 32%. In the current poll, support for this solution came from Gaza Strip, a 27-point increase while remaining stable in the West Bank at 34%.
• We offered the public three methods to end the Israeli occupation and establish an independent state and asked it to select the most effective. 46% (51% in the West Bank and 39% in the Gaza Strip) selected “armed struggle;”25% (27% in the West Bank and 23% in the Gaza Strip) selected negotiations; and 18% (12% in the West Bank and 27% in the Gaza Strip) selected popular non-violent resistance. As shown in the figure below, these findings indicate a 17-point drop in support for armed struggle; a 5-point rise in support for negotiations; and a 5-point rise in support for non-violence. The drop in three months in support for armed struggle comes equally from both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip

 

[avenue94]

We're getting really far afield here, but I don't have a whole lot to say other than what I already did. Public opinion and sentiment do not coalesce in a vacuum, they are responses to outside stimuli. In this case, a people that has generally gotten the short end of the stick from every power player needed to sign off on any deals: Egypt, Jordan, the Saudis, Israel, the US, etc.

This all goes back to a post saying Palestinians are responsible for Hamas, which is a vast oversimplification given Palestinians are stuck with whatever groups have risen to power on an unequal playing field. And in this case, the US and Israel backed Hamas to undercut more moderate Palestinian groups. In other words, it's silly to say Palestinians are to blame for voting for one of the two or three players that the West and regional powers have allowed to rise to power.

The key flaw here is that people tend to treat Palestinians as a monolith and pretend that their current sentiments are unchangeable, which isn't true. They're the results of decades of getting shafted, and changing those sentiments quickly is impossible.

 

[kflo]

We're getting really far afield here, but I don't have a whole lot to say other than what I already did. Public opinion and sentiment do not coalesce in a vacuum, they are responses to outside stimuli. In this case, a people that has generally gotten the short end of the stick from every power player needed to sign off on any deals: Egypt, Jordan, the Saudis, Israel, the US, etc.

This all goes back to a post saying Palestinians are responsible for Hamas, which is a vast oversimplification given Palestinians are stuck with whatever groups have risen to power on an unequal playing field. And in this case, the US and Israel backed Hamas to undercut more moderate Palestinian groups. In other words, it's silly to say Palestinians are to blame for voting for one of the two or three players that the West and regional powers have allowed to rise to power.

The key flaw here is that people tend to treat Palestinians as a monolith and pretend that their current sentiments are unchangeable, which isn't true. They're the results of decades of getting shafted, and changing those sentiments quickly is impossible.

But Israel’s backing in hamas infancy was before they were a terror group committed to the destruction of Israel.