RBR ***Official*** Sherdog Sanctioned Fury vs Ngannou Discussion PPV 10/28, 2PM EST

[Mujeriego]

Fury thinks he baited Usyk but Usyk already said he's not falling for what we just saw.
So Fury is now Lineal Boxing and MMA HW Champ.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Fury's performance in this fight has 0 impact on his boxing career. Nothing was on the line except for fight promotion. This does not negatively impact Usyk fight at all, only sells it more because people will believe Usyk will win even more and drive more sales.

I will say it again for those of you who know nothing: Francis fights Fury again with the "robbery" story line and loses again, or faces another prominent boxer because he "hung in there with the champion and lost a robbery, and Fury is too scared to fight him again." This is literally a WWE storyline playing out. Save the post.

So now Fury is getting dropped, looking like shit in front of millions of people, and winning a decision by a point so he can help Francis promote his next fight with another Boxer?

No shit he will box again, I don’t know why you think that’s some big brain prediction lmao. If you were really that confident you wouldn’t have had to throw in “or another prominent Boxer” lol.

Yes there is a storyline, there are storylines in sports, that doesn’t mean the fight was a work hahaha.

 

[MMA4Life]

Fury's safety blanket is always bullying guys, and it had no effect on someone stronger than him who actually knows wrestling fundamentals.

This is the cleanest take I’ve seen.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

I didn't bother scoring the fight cause I thought there was no point, I'll have to rewatch. It felt like Ngannou edged him but I was not expecting him to do that well so maybe I overrated his performance.

Either way let's see Ngannou v Wilder!

 

[xhaydenx]

You nerds are moving the goal posts to piss into the wind arguing about nonsense. I don't care who did it, who benefits, blah blah blah. Anyone can watch the fight and see it was a WWE match and that this is exactly how the outcome would turn out. You're the same dudes screaming and screeching that Francis won and talking shit, then when the decision is read moving the goal posts to a robbery, blah blah blah. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you were paid bots over believing that you guys actually thought that was a legitimate fight. It was questionable before the fight, laughably obvious during the fight and the decision was just the proof.

Tyson may as well have been watching reruns of the office in between rounds on an iPad and you guys would be saying "no!! JUST PROOF HE DIDN'T TAKE FRANCIS SERIOUSLY, HE'S OBVIOUSLY THE BEST BOXER MMA HAS EVER SEEN"

Well, if you don't care who did it and who benefits, then you're ignoring the context, which is everything.

You just need to take the tin-foil hat off for a bit, brother.

 

[DS7]

But you don't lose a point for a TD in MMA...

Great, this one doesn't understand analogies

 

[maximus__]

That's not what happened though, Fury was not being countered, he was landing more jabs than Francis over the course of the fight.

So? He was getting hit with more shots by Francis and they were actually hard shots.
It's not volume that scores even in boxing, they still need to be hard shots. The only argument for Fury was that he was coming forward, but he wasn't and Francis whilst defensive, was still the one actually landing the better shots when we did get action in that fight.

 

[Voodoo Dahl]

yes. all. never seen you goobers in here once until now.

lol. Sherdog logic at its best.

 

[Thunder-747]

Fury's safety blanket is always bullying guys, and it had no effect on someone stronger than him who actually knows wrestling fundamentals.

That's true, he was wearing out Wilder by piling his body on him and holding. COuldn't do that here

 

[cheesus]

So? He was getting hit with more shots by Francis and they were actually hard shots.
It's not volume that scores even in boxing, they still need to be hard shots. The only argument for Fury was that he was coming forward, but he wasn't and Francis whilst defensive, was still the one actually landing the better shots when we did get action in that fight.

The fight is scored round by round not who has the bigger moments, Francis wasn't landed heavy shots every single round.

 

[CatchnShoot]

They were landing. It's a comment on the supposed HW boxing champ choosing to initiate the clinch against an MMA fighter instead of boxing.

Fury just took his first loss and was outboxed by an MMA fighter.

I am a huge boxing fan, and I would have LOVED to have seen Francis knock Fury the fuck out. As it is he came very close to winning a decision, which I could honestly see going either way.
I COULD see them giving the W to Francis, but it wasn't clear cut either way IMO.

Fury OFTEN clinches and it's one of the reasons I don't particularly care for the fighter. This wasn't a strategy he adopted for Francis, it's his routine fuckery.

Fury SHOULD have stayed at distance and jabbed him to death, IMO he fought rather foolishly, and he looked more like he was camping for 12 weeks rather than being in training camp.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Well, if you don't care who did it and who benefits, then you're ignoring the context, which is everything.

You just need to take the tin-foil hat off for a bit, brother.

somehow it’s all a work, even though he can’t logically explain what the work would be working towards.

lol. Sherdog logic at its best.

you already responded to that one brother. i just ignored it.

 

[maximus__]

COPE

I am not the one thinking Fury won a fight he was outstruck in, dropped in and falling all over the place in.

I bet on Fury and won money. Francis just won that fight.

 

[Neck&Neck]

See you boxing dorks later, when you’re ready for the next level, head over to the Heavies
MMA Bless
Sherdog Bless

 

[MMA4Life]

I think it's a perfect representation of MMA at its very best against boxing. Did damage, was game, toughed it through to the end, and lost a split decision by a round. On average, the boxer would fare much better, but a win either way. I'm not saying boxing is better, but it's a generalist vs a specialist in a sport with a rule set that's built to develop specialization.

Yes Francis takes him down in und and a minute and changes his face or just lands on him Tyson uses the gloves which he should. Who cares I’m in a great mood that fight over performed

 

[MMA4Life]

I didn't bother scoring the fight cause I thought there was no point, I'll have to rewatch. It felt like Ngannou edged him but I was not expecting him to do that well so maybe I overrated his performance.

Either way let's see Ngannou v Wilder!

PFL going to have to give him more money. He hurt Tyson. Francis ate all his shots. Or people who want to see him in Wilder now.

 

[bangalangin]

I reckon Fury took drugs/drank too much too recently, lost his strength, then was compromised by losing weight for this fight instead of training strength. This was a pretty bad version of Fury but it may not be the end for him just yet.

It's probably the first time that Fury has been the smaller man in terms of lean bodyweight. Ngannou has some serious physical advantages going on, he is enormous in mass and strength with great effect in the clinch: almost the Brock Lesnar of boxing. I think he will do well against any boxer if he keeps up his training, only obviously losing against Usyk.

If Fury gets on the weights, get his strength back, we could see one last good run from Fury before the retirement. With the right preparation he should be favourite vs Usyk still, but tonight's Fury not so much.

 

[Busgosu]

so, all and all, does an mma fighter debuting in pro boxing losing an extremely controversial decision vs an all time great and reigning HW champion make up for all the mma guys who lost to Jake Paul??

 

[maximus__]

The fight is scored round by round not who has the bigger moments, Francis wasn't landed heavy shots every single round.

Oh really ? I never would have guessed that boxing is scored round by round.

What criteria was Fury supposedly winning?

• Effective Aggression – Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it’s not exactly “effective.” Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
• Ring Generalship – The fighter who controls the action and enforces his will and style.
• Defense – How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches? Good defense is important.
• Hard and Clean Punches – To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.

 

[Bonos]

How about all the MMA fans who practically disowned Francis because he left the UFC? Don't jump on the bandwagon now.

I didn't give him a chance and he shouldn't have had the opportunity to get a shot at the top man, but he became a legit contender despite all odds, arguably winning. I didn't score it and would probably give the edge to Fury, still it was only a few points difference either way with the knockdown. While not winning this is one of the sports greatest performances. I don't care how flat Fury looked, Ngannou showed speed, skill, chin and power. Went 10 in his debut against the champ and hurt him. Unbelievable.

It also exposed that while Fury took giant leaps in his boxing ability since he started out, it was in large part because of the size advantage, Ngannou negated a lot of that by not only being as close as big, but outworking him in the clinch. Another all time great Wlad should also be ashamed for not having Ngannou's fortitude and heart.

I want to see him against Wilder/Joshua/Zhang. vs Makhmudov would be like an old school K1 freakshow elevated 10x

Got a huge thrill out of what should have been a freakshow mimatch.