International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V11

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Joe said:
Russia would never invade another country
:rolleyes:
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If we could make a list it would be very lopsided lol. And I wouldn't include Ukraine in that list since it started when USA armed neo nazi fascist groups and backed a coup to overthrow Ukraine's democracy. And just to give an example of how ingrained this nazi ideology is in Ukraine I've shared a link. And this is only a small part of it. I've been following this conflict since before the Russian invasion and have seen videos of Russian civilians kidnapped and tortured to death by these groups. Not to mention the people that were burned alive in Odessa. This is genuinely a fascist regime, and that's great for American elites, it's very profitable for them personally but not so much for the country. Saudi Arabia now is selling oil in other currencies so the petrodollar is coming to an and and this conflict was the cause of it. America is turning the world against them and it's not good for American citizens in the long run. But sure, trust the people that lied about Vietnam, Iraq, Syria etc. The government love you bro. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-ordered-staff-CASTRATE-Russian-soldiers.html
 
thehighking said:
If we could make a list it would be very lopsided lol. And I wouldn't include Ukraine in that list since it started when USA armed neo nazi fascist groups and backed a coup to overthrow Ukraine's democracy. And just to give an example of how ingrained this nazi ideology is in Ukraine I've shared a link. And this is only a small part of it. I've been following this conflict since before the Russian invasion and have seen videos of Russian civilians kidnapped and tortured to death by these groups. Not to mention the people that were burned alive in Odessa. This is genuinely a fascist regime, and that's great for American elites, it's very profitable for them personally but not so much for the country. Saudi Arabia now is selling oil in other currencies so the petrodollar is coming to an and and this conflict was the cause of it. America is turning the world against them and it's not good for American citizens in the long run. But sure, trust the people that lied about Vietnam, Iraq, Syria etc. The government love you bro. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-ordered-staff-CASTRATE-Russian-soldiers.html
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Funny i thought it started when russia poisoned their president in 2004
 
Joe said:
Funny i thought it started when russia poisoned their president in 2004
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Well you've been indoctrinated by American media. You might protest over some social issues that the two parties convince you to argue over but you'll NEVER stand opposed to war. You'll support the next proxy war without question.
 
thehighking said:
Well you've been indoctrinated by American media. You'll support the next war without question, you might protest over some social issues that the two parties convince you to argue over but you'll NEVER stand opposed to war. You'll support the next proxy war without question.
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Remember when russia signed an agreement that it would respect ukraines borders if they gave up theit nuclear weapons? Ukraine did. What did russia do?
 
thehighking said:
Thanks, you gave a perfect example of what happens when you only consume American media. Remember your enemies are Russia and China not the people getting rich by sending American soldiers to die for their profits. You have no healthcare because war is more profitable. Both parties work for the same elites. USA is a faux democracy. Ever notice how both parties only differ on some social issues but always collude to start wars? They're all on the same team and they're against you. Yes, the regime that planned terrorist attacks against US citizens to start a war in the 60s is still in power. The same regime that staged an attack on a US navy ship to invade Vietnam, the same government that lied to you and said Iraq had WMDs. This is well above your level of comprehension though, you're just a pawn for the regime, you'll support any country they decide to invade or any terrorists they decide to arm because you've been brainwashed. American media is like North Korea level propaganda, but most American citizens are so indoctrinated that they don't see this.
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GDP is not propaganda. lmao

Russia is shit.

If you don't support Ukraine, you are literally taking a pro war stance you fucking muppet.
 
Badr Hari said:
Evgeny Prigozhin on the situation in Bakhmut:

- During the day, units of PMC "Wagner" advanced in Bakhmut by 100-150 meters;
- Under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are 2.98 square kilometers of the city;
- As a result of shell starvation, 94 fighters of the PMC "Wagner" died.

If Prigozhin isn't lying, than the numbers of 100-150 rus soldiers killed per day usually thrown as a number by the AFU might not be such an exaggeration after all.
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"Shell starvation"?!?!?!?

<Moyes5>
 
thehighking said:
I'm assuming you've only been following Western media. Russia's economy has actually grown since Western sanctions. Russia and China have made trade deals and both of their economies are doing better than they were before the Ukraine war began (although it arguably began with the US backed coup in 2014). Both Russia and China are doing better economically since Western sanctions. I just think it's crazy how Americans fall for the same trick over and over again, even going back as far as as Vietnam. Your government are not your friends bro.
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thehighking said:
Did you know that propaganda documentary was named as such to hide the original documentary 'Ukraine on Fire'. I'd recommend you watch that one instead of the one that was created to hide it. 60 people burned alive by American armed neo nazi fascist groups yet hardly anyone in the West knows about Odessa.

I've attached a video and how eerily reminiscent this is of the Hitler Youth camps of the German Nazis. Even Western media reported on these groups and their hatred before the war broke out. The war originally started after a US backed coup in 2014. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine's East have been shelled and persecuted since then. There are videos online of Russian people being tortured and killed by the fascist groups who want to exterminate all Russians from Ukraine. There have been Ukrainian politicians calling for the murder and torture of Russian children but I'm sure you haven't seen that in your news feed.
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I’ll watch it in the coming days. I know I saw unarmed protestors in Kyiv being shot to death by the russian puppet presidents men.

russia also has a long (and recent) history of disregarding human life for the sake of land grabs. Check out Chechnya.
 
thehighking said:
If we could make a list it would be very lopsided lol. And I wouldn't include Ukraine in that list since it started when USA armed neo nazi fascist groups and backed a coup to overthrow Ukraine's democracy. And just to give an example of how ingrained this nazi ideology is in Ukraine I've shared a link. And this is only a small part of it. I've been following this conflict since before the Russian invasion and have seen videos of Russian civilians kidnapped and tortured to death by these groups. Not to mention the people that were burned alive in Odessa. This is genuinely a fascist regime, and that's great for American elites, it's very profitable for them personally but not so much for the country. Saudi Arabia now is selling oil in other currencies so the petrodollar is coming to an and and this conflict was the cause of it. America is turning the world against them and it's not good for American citizens in the long run. But sure, trust the people that lied about Vietnam, Iraq, Syria etc. The government love you bro. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-ordered-staff-CASTRATE-Russian-soldiers.html
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Let's see how well this war goes for Russia. Their fight for the independence of the Ukrainian people, whose land should be ceded over to Russia, and who don't even really deserve their own ethnic identity. Hopefully Putin lives long enough to see his dreams of rebuilding the Empire go up in smoke and his corrupt government crumble around him.
 
Ohh, we have here new or old pro Kremlin oriented poster.....

Yes, it is truth that China etc had imoroved and exactly cos russian war in Ukraine.
While russia pretty opposite had ...degraded....

China and India are buying russian crude oil etc with huge discounts i.e for prices lower than before war....

While their own production is sold to russian companies for higher prices than before war....
Profit, profit.

China also had earned a lot thanks to renewable energy bubble boost in world.
They sold a lot these solar collectors and PV panels, accumulators, lithium, heat pumps, invertors, cables etc etc....
China managed also to boost up chinesse weapons sales in world market...

China had get a lot of these investments earlier supposed to be invested in russia....invested in China not in russia.....
 
SandisLL said:
Ohh, we have here new or old pro Kremlin oriented poster.....

Yes, it is truth that China etc had imoroved and exactly cos russian war in Ukraine.
While russia pretty opposite had ...degraded....

China and India are buying russian crude oil etc with huge discounts i.e for prices lower than before war....

While their own production is sold to russian companies for higher prices than before war....
Profit, profit.

China also had earned a lot thanks to renewable energy bubble boost in world.
They sold a lot these solar collectors and PV panels, accumulators, lithium, heat pumps, invertors, cables etc etc....
China managed also to boost up chinesse weapons sales in world market...

China had get a lot of these investments earlier supposed to be invested in russia....invested in China not in russia.....
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The truth is despite all of Russia's resources they do not have the self control to stop stealing from each other long enough or the ability to actually exploit and process their resource potential.

Their infrastructure is decades or even a century behind in some places. It sucks. They have all the potential to actually be a great nation, but they've just been pretending for centuries.
 
Terry Noonan said:
Reading Ukraine only holds 10% of Bahkmut? Seems not ideal and they’ll probably lose the city.
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It has been lost for Ukraine for what 6 months now..
At least according to a few posters in here.
And even at a loss, I wonder what its cost the Russian to win it.
The price seems to so far have been very high.
Can you afford to keep "winning" this way?
 
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