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That's not what you said. Nice try moving the goal posts.
Russia/Ukraine Megathread V5
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Lol fuck me that's a terrible comparison.. Hitler had the Japanese emperor as friends. Putin the Chinese president...
I guess they're both Asian..... so close enough smh
The doctrine that we must enter the wars of Europe in order to defend America will be fatal to our country if we allow it "
" we must turn our eyes and our faith back to our own country before it's to late " Lindberg
" the war and suffering could easily been avoided if biden admin / nato had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate security concerns " Tulsi
" sending new troops. Expanding the security commitments and expanding nato... I just think that's a strategic mistake "
Lol yeah basically identical... <Lmaoo>
Wow ... this is what some of you watch and believe?
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Ramzan Kadyrov is a keyboard warrior.
He claimed he was in Ukraine, but journalist found his true locations...
Grozny...
1400km away,....
https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/03/16/7331887/
He claimed he was in Ukraine, but journalist found his true locations...
Grozny...
1400km away,....
https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/03/16/7331887/
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Not perfectly well for Russia but it is about the get worst for both Ukraine and the West. This was round #1 for the Russians and they lost. The fight goes on. Let us just hope that 'crazy' Putin does not fire any of his ICBMs in a desperate effort.
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I said you don't prepare for a war after an invasion. That is what Ukraine is doing, asking for NATO jets and antitank weapons.
Think before posting and attacking people irrationally
I don't know how to do it unfortunately.
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Another Ukrainian PR fuck-up:
The head of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine, General Serhiy Deyneko, wrote an angry post about how he would avenge his dead by killing Russians and slaughtering their families. After 5 minutes, the powder released him and Deineko realized that the Russians could really ask for such impudence and decided to delete his post. Now he can take a breath.
But suddenly the phone rang, a notification came, a new post on Pozdnyakov's telegram channel. With a trembling hand, the general touched the smartphone screen and entered the channel. After reading the post, he realized that they managed to screen his writings. It was necessary to urgently decide something and include all the available military ingenuity. Then the general decided to make a new post about how evil Russian hackers abused his account. "It should work," General Daineko thought.
The head of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine, General Serhiy Deyneko, wrote an angry post about how he would avenge his dead by killing Russians and slaughtering their families. After 5 minutes, the powder released him and Deineko realized that the Russians could really ask for such impudence and decided to delete his post. Now he can take a breath.
But suddenly the phone rang, a notification came, a new post on Pozdnyakov's telegram channel. With a trembling hand, the general touched the smartphone screen and entered the channel. After reading the post, he realized that they managed to screen his writings. It was necessary to urgently decide something and include all the available military ingenuity. Then the general decided to make a new post about how evil Russian hackers abused his account. "It should work," General Daineko thought.
“Not perfectly well” is a massive understatement.
Militarily, economically, and diplomatically it’s been a massive, massive fail thus far, with no real sign of headway on any front.
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Well we should learn from past mistakes
Heavy sanctions on nazis didnt prevent the ww2 infact it helped to radicalisation of nazi germany.
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Anyone still left on the "Russia invaded because Ukraine wanted to join NATO" hill?
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Seems like they're back to covid, the iraq war and complaining about not beeing taken seriously
Never been on that particular hill.
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God Australian media is shocking but someone in there is beginning to think ahead.
https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...s/news-story/74a22e2b602ac3d8281d8989c73bf411
‘Victory condition’: Grim sign Putin could win
Russian forces may be moving to encircle the bulk of Ukraine’s military in a pincer move that “could represent a victory condition”, UK analysts have warned.
While much of the West‘s focus has been dominated by Russia’s apparently stalled attempts to take major cities including Kyiv, Mariupol and Odessa, researchers from the Royal United Services Institute say recent troop movements suggest Moscow’s true goal is to encircle the Ukrainian army.
Most of the nation’s defences remains near the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk under the aegis of the Joint Forces Operation.
Analysts say preparations for an amphibious assault on Odessa “may have been a feint, given that the ground forces such an assault could have linked up with appear to be moving north”.
“The position of this force is looking increasingly precarious as Russian forces advance to encircle it on three axes,” analyst Sam Cranny-Evans and research fellow Dr Sidharth Kaushal wrote in the report, titled Not Out of the Woods Yet: Assessing the Operational Situation in Ukraine.
“Viewed in conjunction, these advances present a troubling picture whereby the Ukrainian forces opposite Donetsk and Luhansk are at risk of encirclement on the eastern side of the Dnieper.
“If this is indeed the focus of Russia’s approach, then the emphasis on Russia‘s ability to take major cities as a metric of success will have been an analytical error, as Russia appears more intent on pinning Ukrainian forces in cities like Kharkiv while it bypasses them.”
For Ukraine, this represents a critical moment,” they wrote. “The encirclement and destruction of a large part of the country’s regular armed forces could represent a victory condition for Russia in two ways.”
They point to 1940, when German forces did not besiege Paris. “Having encircled the French army in the field and decisively beaten it, this became unnecessary,” they wrote.
“To hold Kyiv and other major cities at the cost of allowing the forces of the JFO to be encircled could prove disastrous. Even if Ukrainian will did not collapse following the encirclement and destruction of the JFO, the elimination of this force could lead Russia to claim it had achieved its goal of demilitarising Ukraine and would enable an annexation of Donetsk and Luhansk at a minimum.”
They add that for an insurgency to be successful, “they require a regular force to both pin the attention of an occupier and conduct eventual counteroffensives”.
“The survival of the forces currently in the east of Ukraine would therefore be critical to an insurgency’s success,” they wrote.
Oh you mean Russia's goals are the same that they said at the beginning..... who would have thought...
https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...s/news-story/74a22e2b602ac3d8281d8989c73bf411
‘Victory condition’: Grim sign Putin could win
Russian forces may be moving to encircle the bulk of Ukraine’s military in a pincer move that “could represent a victory condition”, UK analysts have warned.
While much of the West‘s focus has been dominated by Russia’s apparently stalled attempts to take major cities including Kyiv, Mariupol and Odessa, researchers from the Royal United Services Institute say recent troop movements suggest Moscow’s true goal is to encircle the Ukrainian army.
Most of the nation’s defences remains near the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk under the aegis of the Joint Forces Operation.
Analysts say preparations for an amphibious assault on Odessa “may have been a feint, given that the ground forces such an assault could have linked up with appear to be moving north”.
“The position of this force is looking increasingly precarious as Russian forces advance to encircle it on three axes,” analyst Sam Cranny-Evans and research fellow Dr Sidharth Kaushal wrote in the report, titled Not Out of the Woods Yet: Assessing the Operational Situation in Ukraine.
“Viewed in conjunction, these advances present a troubling picture whereby the Ukrainian forces opposite Donetsk and Luhansk are at risk of encirclement on the eastern side of the Dnieper.
“If this is indeed the focus of Russia’s approach, then the emphasis on Russia‘s ability to take major cities as a metric of success will have been an analytical error, as Russia appears more intent on pinning Ukrainian forces in cities like Kharkiv while it bypasses them.”
For Ukraine, this represents a critical moment,” they wrote. “The encirclement and destruction of a large part of the country’s regular armed forces could represent a victory condition for Russia in two ways.”
They point to 1940, when German forces did not besiege Paris. “Having encircled the French army in the field and decisively beaten it, this became unnecessary,” they wrote.
“To hold Kyiv and other major cities at the cost of allowing the forces of the JFO to be encircled could prove disastrous. Even if Ukrainian will did not collapse following the encirclement and destruction of the JFO, the elimination of this force could lead Russia to claim it had achieved its goal of demilitarising Ukraine and would enable an annexation of Donetsk and Luhansk at a minimum.”
They add that for an insurgency to be successful, “they require a regular force to both pin the attention of an occupier and conduct eventual counteroffensives”.
“The survival of the forces currently in the east of Ukraine would therefore be critical to an insurgency’s success,” they wrote.
Oh you mean Russia's goals are the same that they said at the beginning..... who would have thought...
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