International Taliban edict to resume stoning women to death met with horror

[Protectandserve]

Did 3 tours there. 2003, 2005, 2013. I knew it would devolve back into shit as soon as we left. Afghan men feel no unity nor the will to make that country better.

Where were you in 13? Helmand? I was in TK

 

[evansusmc2]

Where were you in 13? Helmand? I was in TK

Camp Marmal / Camp Voelke in RC North.

It was a NATO base. Good times.

 

[evansusmc2]

Christians are being held in check by progressives and not allowed to go full feral at least in the west.

buuuull shit! At the very least that shit ain't been true since the 1980s. Especially because of the growing agnostics and athiests on BOTH sides of the isle.

 

[tenniswhiz]

How is anyone in the “free” world expected to hold them accountable?

If anyone dares to speak up, there are a lot of crazy liberal women in the West that will take to Twitter and Instagram in outrage, and try to get people cancelled for “Islamophobia”.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

How is anyone in the “free” world expected to hold them accountable?

If anyone dares to speak up, there are a lot of crazy liberal women in the West that will take to Twitter and Instagram in outrage, and try to get people cancelled for “Islamophobia”.

"Islamophobia" is a stupid word used by the hypocritical, victim-playing Muslims in Christian majority countries to silence valid criticism of Islam. They act like victims in Western countries, yet turn a blind eye to the Christians/Jews/non-believers that are actually persecuted and killed in Muslim majority countries. After all, who the fuck ever speaks about "Christianophobia" or "Judeophobia" in those countries?

Us: "Hey, could you guys explain why there are so many Islamic terrorist groups?

Them: "You're an Islamophobe!"

 

[White Whale]

It's fascinating how atheists will rush to the defense of Islam. It appears Christianity is the only religion atheists have issues with.

 

[Siver!]

"Islamophobia" is a stupid word used by the hypocritical, victim-playing Muslims in Christian majority countries to silence valid criticism of Islam. They act like victims in Western countries, yet turn a blind eye to the Christians/Jews/non-believers that are actually persecuted and killed in Muslim majority countries. After all, who the fuck ever speaks about "Christianophobia" or "Judeophobia" in those countries?

Us: "Hey, could you guys explain why there are so many Islamic terrorist groups?

Them: "You're an Islamophobe!"

The fight against Islamophobia is a relatively powerless movement.

Politicians and public figures frequently attack Islam with little or no recourse.

Compare that to antisemitism, which you buy into 100 % because it happens to be an extremely powerful movement and it looks like you're just (inadvertently?) following the money to me.

In truth, both are horribly misused, but here you are saying one is stupid, hypocritical, and victim-playing lmao

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

"But what about the Crusades?!" - Queen B/Sinister

lol, the funny thing is, the Crusades was originally a response to the Islamic aggression against the Byzantine Empire in present day Turkey. By no means am I condoning the actions of the Crusaders, though. They murdered innocent Jews and there was also violence amongst themselves. The Catholic Church did some really fucked up shit in the old days.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

The fight against Islamophobia is a relatively powerless movement.

Politicians and public figures frequently attack Islam with little or no recourse.

Compare that to antisemitism, which you buy into 100 % because it happens to be an extremely powerful movement and it looks like you're just (inadvertently?) following the money to me.

In truth, both are horribly misused, but here you are saying one is stupid, hypocritical, and victim-playing lmao

Right, because the Muslims were driven out of their homeland and forced to settle in different areas by the Romans. They faced millenia of persecution and oppression from Europeans and Jews and in some cases were forced to convert to Christianity and Judaism. At one point, they were hated by the Germans so much that 6 million of them were systematically murdered.

Oh no, that's not how it goes... I think I got the Jews mixed up with the Muslims there...

 

[Siver!]

Right, because the Muslims were driven out of their homeland and forced to settle in different areas by the Romans. They faced millenia of persecution and oppression from Europeans and Jews and in some cases were forced to convert to Christianity and Judaism. At one point, they were hated by the Germans so much that 6 million of them were systematically murdered.

Oh no, that's not how it goes... I think I got the Jews mixed up with the Muslims there...

I don't really get what that's got to do with it, but if you think it makes sense to treat Islamophobia and antisemitism so massively differently, you do you - but it's literally the same thing.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Afghan regime’s return to public stoning and flogging is because there is ‘no one to hold them accountable’ for abuses, say activists

Activists say the announcement has condemned Afghan women to return to the darkest days of Taliban rule in the 1990s. Photograph: Sanaullah Seiam/AFP/Getty

The Taliban’s announcement that it is resuming publicly stoning women to death has been enabled by the international community’s silence, human rights groups have said.

Safia Arefi, a lawyer and head of the Afghan human rights organisation Women’s Window of Hope, said the announcement had condemned Afghan women to return to the darkest days of Taliban rule in the 1990s.


“With this announcement by the Taliban leader, a new chapter of private punishments has begun and Afghan women are experiencing the depths of loneliness,” Arefi said.

“Now, no one is standing beside them to save them from Taliban punishments. The international community has chosen to remain silent in the face of these violations of women’s rights.”

The Taliban’s supreme leader, Hibatullah Akhundzada, announced at the weekend that the group would begin enforcing its interpretation of sharia law in Afghanistan, including reintroducing the public flogging and stoning of women for adultery.

In an audio broadcast on the Taliban-controlled Radio Television Afghanistan last Saturday, Akhundzada said: “We will flog the women … we will stone them to death in public [for adultery].

Hibatullah Akhundzada said: ‘The Taliban’s work did not end with the takeover of Kabul, it has only just begun.’ Photograph: Wakil Kohsar/AFP/Getty - What that handsome face. Dude should consider a Iron Mask

“You may call it a violation of women’s rights when we publicly stone or flog them for committing adultery because they conflict with your democratic principles,” he said, adding: “[But] I represent Allah, and you represent Satan.”


He justified the move as a continuation of the Taliban’s struggle against western influences. “The Taliban’s work did not end with the takeover of Kabul, it has only just begun,” he said.

The news was met by horror but not surprise by Afghan women’s right groups, who say the dismantling of any remaining rights and protection for the country’s 14 million women and girls is now almost complete.

Sahar Fetrat, an Afghan researcher at Human Rights Watch, said: “Two years ago, they didn’t have the courage they have today to vow stoning women to death in public; now they do.

“They tested their draconian policies one by one, and have reached this point because there is no one to hold them accountable for the abuses. Through the bodies of Afghan women, the Taliban demand and command moral and societal orders. We should all be warned that if not stopped, more and more will come.”

Footage of a Taliban Brothel!

Since taking power, in August 2021, the Taliban has dissolved the western-backed constitution of Afghanistan and suspended existing criminal and penal codes, replacing them with their rigid and fundamentalist interpretation of sharia law. They also banned female lawyers and judges, targeting many of them for their work under the previous government.

Samira Hamidi, an Afghan activist and campaigner at Amnesty International, said: “In the past two and half years, the Taliban has dismantled institutions that were providing services to Afghan women.

“However, their leader’s latest endorsement of women’s public stoning to death is a flagrant violation of international human rights laws, including Cedaw [the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women].”
Hamidi said Afghan women were now in effect powerless to defend themselves from persecution and injustice.

In the past year alone, Taliban-appointed judges ordered 417 public floggings and executions, according to Afghan Witness, a research group monitoring human rights in Afghanistan. Of these, 57 were women.

Most recently, in February, the Taliban executed people in public at stadiums in Jawzjan and Ghazni provinces. The militant group has urged people to attend executions and punishments as a “lesson” but banned filming or photography.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-...resume-stoning-women-to-death-met-with-horror

Who will stone them to death though? Aren't all the Afghan men seeking asylum in Europe?

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

I don't really get what that's got to do with it, but if you think it makes sense to treat Islamophobia and antisemitism so massively differently, you do you - but it's literally the same thing.

Well, if you can't connect the dots and see how fucking retarded it is to compare 3 millenia of Jewish persecution to the harmless, yet valid criticisms of Islam, so be it.

 

[Siver!]

Well, if you can't connect the dots and see how fucking retarded it is to compare 3 millenia of Jewish persecution to the harmless, yet valid criticisms of Islam, so be it.

That doesn't make sense as a justification.

Obviously if the criticism is fair and valid, it should be deemed acceptable.

If the criticism is not fair and valid, it shouldn't be deemed acceptable.

It really doesn't matter who you're criticizing, what matters is if it's fair and valid.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Real smart guys over there

Deprive half the population of education and humanity and kill any economic hope for the community

Sooner of later they’ll get usurped by some other dumbass faction

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

That doesn't make sense as a justification.

Obviously if the criticism is fair and valid, it should be deemed acceptable.

If the criticism is not fair and valid, it shouldn't be deemed acceptable.

It really doesn't matter who you're criticizing, what matters is if it's fair and valid.

There are nearly 2 billion Muslims in this world compared to 15 million Jews. There are 49 Muslim majority countries compared to 1 Jewish majority country. One country is struggling to retain its Jewish identity while the rest of the countries are trying absorb it back into its Muslim sphere of influence through lies, taqiyya, barbaric forms of violence, and victim playing to the international audience. And you're trying to tell me that burning a Qur'an or condemning honor killings and female genital mutilation is just as oppressive as anti-semitism?

Get the fuck out of here.

 

[Siver!]

There are nearly 2 billion Muslims in this world compared to 15 million Jews. There are 49 Muslim majority countries compared to 1 Jewish majority country. One country is struggling to retain its Jewish identity while the rest of the countries are trying absorb it back into its Muslim sphere of influence through lies, taqiyya, barbaric forms of violence, and victim playing to the international audience. And you're trying to tell me that burning a Qur'an or condemning honor killings and female genital mutilation is just as oppressive as antisemitism?

Get the fuck out of here.

It's a silly double standard and it makes no sense, and there's no point trying to justify it.

It doesn't matter how many people there are, 5, or 5 billion.

This isn't complicated.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

It's a silly double standard and it makes no sense, and there's no point trying to justify it.

It doesn't matter how many people there are, 5, or 5 billion.

This isn't complicated.

lmfao. Double standards.

Whenever Israel fights a defensive war, it's called an act of aggression. Whenever Hamas or Hezbollah attack Israel, it's a form of resistance.

Whenever a 14 year old Palestinian child goes on a rampage, stabbing random Israeli civilians, the international community chalks it up to boys just being boys. If said 14 year old gets arrested by the Israeli police, it's "child abuse."

You want to talk about double standards? It's Israel and the Jews who are constantly held to a higher standard than their Arab counterparts.

 

[Siver!]

lmfao. Double standards.

Whenever Israel fights a defensive war, it's called an act of aggression. Whenever Hamas or Hezbollahs attacks Israel, it's form of resistance.

Whenever a 14 year old Palestinian child goes on a rampage, stabbing random Israeli civilians, the international community chalks it up to boys just being boys. If said 14 year old gets arrested by the Israeli police, it's "child abuse."

You want to talk about double standards? It's Israel and the Jews who are constantly held to a higher standard than their Arab counterparts.

Sounds like a biased internal monologue making excuses to me.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Sounds like a biased internal monologue making excuses to me.

No. It's me hinting at you that your historical knowledge and your ability to make logical deductions are garbage.

 

[Siver!]

No. It's me hinting at you that your historical knowledge and your ability to make logical deductions are garbage.

You're just being silly now, sorry.

I'll leave you to it.