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dude you're accusing me of doing the exact thing you are doing.
What? I was explaining points politely, and you transitioned to making up crazy personal attacks. I didn't do that.
and no, i did not see you once saying anything critical of the left.
Amazingly, this is not my first thread in the WR. I wouldn't say that any sane person says something critical of the left in every single thread.
i've agreed to certain things that you have said in our conversation but now i am "unwilling to grant" you the idea that you are right about everything?
Here's the post:
"Well, why would I criticize them for doing something that they didn't do? I think that would be a partisan move. Even to try to bothsides it. I think the point is to tell the truth no matter who it hurts; not to pretend that both parties are always the same, regardless of whether they are or not.
Hmm. I'm at a loss to see how even if your accusation is correct it is an example of partisanship. In the sense the term is used here, I think of it meaning an alternative to having philosophical views or principles (i.e., going along with a party regardless of whether their actions conform to your ideals--for example, when people claim to be libertarians but then support Trump or DeSantis, I think that is partisanship). I'm consistently liberal, regardless of what parties are doing. And, yeah, I don't think it's merely a matter of opinion to say that Pelosi has promoted policies that have gone against oligarchy and benefitted the poor and middle class. That's just an objectively true statement. One might have different opinions about it (for example, a lot of rightists believe that post-market redistribution by the gov't is fundamentally illegitimate and immoral and would thus dislike a lot of what she's done), but that it has happened is simply a fact. Contrast with Trump, whose only major policy accomplishment was another tax cut for rich individuals and corporations. He also tried and failed to get a tax cut for income over $250K, paid for by cuts to Medicaid and to subsidies for middle-class insurance buyers."
IMO, you neither had a counter argument that you felt good about posting nor were willing to grant the points made, which is why you're resorting to personal attacks. You were in a bit of a bind.
there is nothing dishonest about what i have said. and i've engaged with you for a bit - i listened to what you have said - i've taken into account your recommendations - and now i am ready to go focus on something else so spare me the bullshit accusation that i don't have actual response to the points you have made. here's some advice (personal attack) - you seem to have an inflated sense of self so don't forget to check your ego every once in awhile. it's a good reminder for everyone me including.
Well, here's some advice for you: If someone makes points you can't intelligently respond to, instead of lashing out childishly, consider the possibility that they are correct, and if the points upset you, think about the source of your anger (why you would be resistant to truth).
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