Where was this same energy for Francis to be stripped when he was out for nearly a year?

[TITS]

Stipey is still considered the HW GOAT by anyone who isn't a pathetic Feeder worshiper. This is the only fight that makes sense for either guy since Ngannou left.

Any version of Stipey would've sent prime Feeder's flabby head to the moon, he might just do that to Jon.

 

[World eater]

they say tom is the real HW champ
because they hate jones
they hate him for having the best resume and the hardest

simple as that

That is 100% true.
We hate you for pretty much the same reason - being obviously the best poster on SD.

 

[BowserJr]

lol nganou whent life and death with gane
jones made it look like gane was not on his league

theres a reason jon made it look easy
because hes the GOAT
and theres a reason why nganou went life and death with gane

theres levels to this sht

They went "life and death" cuz neither have any grappling to speak of lol

Jones would likely do the same to Francis the big difference is Francis has the death touch. Gane doesn't.

For Jones the death touch was too much of a risk so he avoided HW till he left. It's pretty fucking obvious lol

 

[BowserJr]

Stipey is still considered the HW GOAT by anyone who isn't a pathetic Feeder worshiper. This is the only fight that makes sense for either guy since Ngannou left.

Any version of Stipey would've sent prime Feeder's flabby head to the moon, he might just do that to Jon.

I'm sure you think Larry Holmes is the GOAT to cuz he beat old shop worn Ali... in case you weren't aware no one thinks that. Everyone knows age and fight mileage/ damage make a difference.

You must also think Francis is GOAT cuz he koed Stipe lol

 

[BowserJr]

When Jones fought Gane, Gane was the #1 heavyweight in the UFC. Aspinall had just lost his previous fight (due to injury, but a loss is a loss), and Pavlovich was looking good but still a fight away from title contention.



You understand why there's an interim champion, right? Because Jones got injured. That's the whole point of interim belts - so that you don't strip the champion simply because they're physically (but temporarily) unable to fight.



Before the Gane fight, you could have said that about Jones. "What's Gane doing trying to fight a past-his-prime LHW who hasn't fought in three years and arguably lost his last two fights? Shouldn't he be challenging real contenders?"

Gane was coming off a legit loss so the #1 spot was debatable. Most people knew Tom and Sergei are better than Gane.


Correct on the interim belt. No one started saying Jon should be stripped until he started refusing to fight or even acknowledge Tom. He's literally actively ducking him to fight an old fighter who hasn't fought in 4 years. He might as well fight Mike Tyson.

Some people were saying those things about Jones but anyone with a brain can see past hype that Gane is. 1-D, UFC 1 fighter. Prime Coleman or even old Randy beat him

 

[Soggust]

So then how is Tom the "real HW champ" if the belt he should be fighting for is paper? at least try to have consistency in your reasoning. Gane was #1 ranked at the time. Should the number 1 ranked not fight for the belt? You get mad that Stipe is jumping line to fight Jon yet you would have been fine for Aspinall or Pav to jump line and fight Jon of Gane. At least pretend not to be bias if you gonna act is if you aren't lol..

Not the guy you were quoting, but I absolutely agree with you about your Gane point that the #1 ranked should be fighting for the belt.

 

[Clark Rogers]

Because Francis was a lineal champion. Jones's belt is a paper belt. He won a vacant belt against Cyril Gane when he should have been fighting Aspinall or Pavlovich in the first place. Now he's refusing to unify the belt against Aspinall and fighting Stipe. Not that hard to understand why people are criticizing him.

This is absolute revisionist history nonsense.

Pav and Tom were not belt ready when Jon fought Gane. Up until Jon absolutely embarrassed him, this place was hailing Gane as the next fucking hw GOAT and yapping about how he was going to absolutely destroy Jon on the feet.

It wasn't until AFTER Jones decimated him that the straight haters flipped the script into "Gane was never that good, yakyakyak." Jon's an absolute douche but yall haters literally flip flop on your beliefs like fish to cope. It's laughable

 

[Barteh]

Rumble Johnson and Khabib have more recent wins than Stipe.

 

[TITS]

I'm sure you think Larry Holmes is the GOAT to cuz he beat old shop worn Ali... in case you weren't aware no one thinks that. Everyone knows age and fight mileage/ damage make a difference.

Both Jon and Stipey have the fight mileage/damage, but they've also had long breaks, so it's not as bad as say someone like El Kookooey who continues to take punishment on a regular basis.

You must also think Francis is GOAT cuz he koed Stipe lol

No, I don't think that because he's 1-1 with Mr. Stipey. They probably should have done a rubber match, but Francis took a year off and had that contract dispute.

 

[Trabaho]

Francis accepted to fight anyone. Jon turned the clear number 1 guy down. Moreso Francs fought himself trough HW for a title. Jones has exactly 1 win at HW. The reason for all this is LHW is Jones perfect weight class. He is at a disatvantage at HW. Not his perfect weight.

 

[filthybliss]

This dude is on a troller mission......

 

[Katsushyro]

There was the same energy…

 

[blaseblase]

Francis was out 10 months before he fought again and no one was campaigning to get him stripped during this time.

You mean when the UFC intentionally held him back from fighting so they could put on a fake interim title fight? That's not on him. Jones has been out 14 months fyi, is healthy now and refusing to face the interim champ.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Francis was hurt, there wasn't an interim champion and Francis wasn't asking to fight Stipe when he came back instead of the interim champ.

If Jones wants Stipe so badly, he could do it without the title or, do it after defending against Tom.

 

[b00tysweat]

This is absolute revisionist history nonsense.

Pav and Tom were not belt ready when Jon fought Gane. Up until Jon absolutely embarrassed him, this place was hailing Gane as the next fucking hw GOAT and yapping about how he was going to absolutely destroy Jon on the feet.

It wasn't until AFTER Jones decimated him that the straight haters flipped the script into "Gane was never that good, yakyakyak." Jon's an absolute douche but yall haters literally flip flop on your beliefs like fish to cope. It's laughable

CYRIL GANE WILL PUT ON AN ABSOLUTE MASTERCLASS AGAINST JON JONES

is my favorite thread title of all time

 

[BowserJr]

Both Jon and Stipey have the fight mileage/damage, but they've also had long breaks, so it's not as bad as say someone like El Kookooey who continues to take punishment on a regular basis.



No, I don't think that because he's 1-1 with Mr. Stipey. They probably should have done a rubber match, but Francis took a year off and had that contract dispute.

Ok so you think Francis is tied for hw goat with Stipe cuz they're 1-1 lol

And no Stipe has more cumulative damage having fought his entire career vs guys that hit harder, are heavier, stronger and his actual size

No one survives an entire career against top HW comp without a KO loss

 

[HHJ]

Ok so you think Francis is tied for hw goat with Stipe cuz they're 1-1 lol

And no Stipe has more cumulative damage having fought his entire career vs guys that hit harder, are heavier, stronger and his actual size

No one survives an entire career against top HW comp without a KO loss

UFC hw goat is pretty meaningless. It's not even worth discussing.

 

[BowserJr]

UFC hw goat is pretty meaningless. It's not even worth discussing.

Of course not

 

[TITS]

Ok so you think Francis is tied for hw goat with Stipe cuz they're 1-1 lol

And no Stipe has more cumulative damage having fought his entire career vs guys that hit harder, are heavier, stronger and his actual size

No one survives an entire career against top HW comp without a KO loss

You keep trying to put words in my mouth, or you must not be thinking too straight.

Is Matt Serra "tied for WW goat with GSP cuz they're 1-1 lol"? No, you mushbrain, that's not how it works.

Mr. Stipey has put away guys his entire career that are bigger than him. You're opinion on who hits harder is just that, an opinion. A really debatable one too. How do you think a fight with Stipey vs Lewis or Volkov would have went? They're bigger/stronger, but I think Stipey would have made them look like amateurs.

I agree that no survives HW top guys without a KO loss, that's the fucking point, even the best HW in the UFC can get folded in half by someone with one punch KO power. Jones doesn't have that, and Stipey is in good shape for a 41 year old.

 

[xhaydenx]

Frank was the proper champion, as in he beat the guy who was the actual champion before. Jon just came in and strangled the bum who had failed to take the belt away from Frank. Jon's belt is a paper belt.

And also, everyone cares a lot less about Jon because we all know he's only fighting Stipe and then both are retiring. No one gives a fuck.