Why doesn't anyone talk about Miguel Torres?

[Azazyah]

I remember back in the day people were giving him GOAT status. Seem like he's completely forgotten now.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

One of the more meteoric falls.

The goat argument made some sense at the time, to be fair. Just not much of an existing hierarchical system for promotions then, so people treated wins like a 1 to 1

 

[chitoortiz]

 

[TheMessiah]

Because he got exposed when he faced better competition and the division was paper thin at the time. Plus the rape joke

 

[Corrado Soprano]

After that rape joke his career was never the same.

 

[The UFC Brander Collector]

He made a rape joke and got snuffed (a dumb joke to post).
Jon beats up the mother of his children in front of them and it is dandy.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

If he was any good, UFC wouldn't have cut him over a joke on twitter.
Use Jon Jones as an example.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

same reason no one talks about philip rivers or rickson gracie anymore. long time ago.

 

[MMAProfessional]

A lot of people haven't watched his WEC fights. For me I'll remember him for getting robbed against Demetrious. Other than that his career was lack luster when he got better competition

 

[13Seconds]

He should have beat MM though

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

same reason no one talks about philip rivers or rickson gracie anymore. long time ago.

philip miller not rivers lmao my bad

 

[chinarice]

philip miller not rivers lmao my bad

You mean Nover?

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

MMA has a WAY higher turnover of fans than normal mainstream sports. The UFC as a company also does a horrible job of honoring their legends and overpromoting the current guys as the "best ever" to the point that no one feels special so it's not that surprising that he faded away. Most fans of this modern cycle of mma probably don't even know who Randy Couture is which is an even bigger travesty. Majority of people will watch for one era, then their favorites will get old and go on losing streaks/get swept under the rug, and then lose interest. Only a small, niche portion of the fandom are true fans of combat sports in general and don't tune in just for names... personalities draw attention, the sport itself doesn't.

Being successful in WEC (and not the UFC) + Being successful in a small weight class that wasn't established in the mainstream yet + going on a losing streak + getting buried by the UFC for a rape related joke + all of the above = vanished from discussions.

PS: Torres beat Mighty Mouse.

 

[HaulParris]

A lot of people haven't watched his WEC fights. For me I'll remember him for getting robbed against Demetrious. Other than that his career was lack luster when he got better competition

I agree that he should have gotten the nod againsf DJ. But even before that, his career is a tale of two halves - his unstoppable run through WEC, and his post-Bowles/JoeB decline. He was never the same fighter after those two back-to-back losses.

 

[WHITE ANDERSON]

brian "bowl cut" bowles took his fucking soul
one of the most underrated late stoppage KOs in MMA history

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

You mean Nover?

nah philip miller. retired in his prime at 16-0 with 12 stoppages. had wins over a young jake shields, shungo oyama, and mark weir.

 

[NickDiaz]

What was the "joke" ?

 

[wwkirk]

He had good run while in the WEC.

 

[Fioretti]

nah philip miller. retired in his prime at 16-0 with 12 stoppages. had wins over a young jake shields, shungo oyama, and mark weir.

The true GOAT! Retiring undefeated years before Khabib copied him.

 

[Shaddows]

I was sold on him... then all of a sudden, he started losing.
I don't know what happened, but from an unbeaten guy (that looked awesome!) he became a dude anyone (good) could beat without much trouble...
Now, thinking back, it was odd how it happened...