I have the clima cool version which I think is the same but the palm has better ventilation ( like the top king air gloves). I'm a smaller guy and find the clima cool version fit much better with wraps. I have used them without wraps and it does feel okay, but my hands are just too small. I think the padding is too stiff for sparring, but I haven't really broken them in yet. I feel that the gloves are too big. Can you compare to Fairtex bgv1 or another mt style glove? I have the 16 oz gloves btw