UFC Fox 24 - DJ vs Reis - Kansas City

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Jamah said:
This is a dog or pass situation
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I think we'll see the odds get high enough to take Smolka. I'm not surprised at all with -230 opener. I honestly think he'll get higher.
 
MMA Goodfella said:
I must be the crazy one ITT lol

I thought Jacare should be capped around -380 and I'm over the moon at -270

Whit hasn't ever faced anyone close to what Jacare will be like. You're talking about a monstrous 185 pound fighter with A+ level wrestling and BJJ of which may be the best in the sport. For Robert Whitaker to have success he's going to have to make it a kick boxing match and I just do not see how he keeps Jacare right off of him. Romero couldn't keep Jacare off of him and that fight very easily could've went to Jacare. Ergo, I don't see Whitaker being anything near the force of a Romero. Moreover, Whitaker I was never faced a wrestler save for Colton Smith and in career and he definitely hasn't faced one as big or as good Souza.

I think Jacare demolishes Whitaker TBH
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I'm with you, I have 4u on Jacare at -190. I'm still considering hedging some but I may just leave it alone. I think Whittaker needs to KO him before he gets taken down or it's pretty much a wrap.
 
Oblivian said:
I think we'll see the odds get high enough to take Smolka. I'm not surprised at all with -230 opener. I honestly think he'll get higher.
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No way I wouldn't take Smolka at +200
 
This card looks like it's gonna be round robin city for me. Lines on point
 
Seriously surprised at the appreciation for Whittaker, the guy is complete garbage imo.
Jacare -200 is great.
 
Sanchez down to -210
Stephens down to -175
Smolka down to +160
 
Stephens opened -260 at euro bookies so surely that -175 spikes up quick, right? Freeroll time
 
I'm surprised Nelson isn't favored over Volkov. Volkov has the tall man defense standing and he can be taken down easily.
 
Sham5916910 said:
Major positive - she's got Pat back in her corner for this fight!!! I need to watch tape on this one but i remember Rose chewing KK up on the outside just struggled in the clinch, but i was impressed by her outside game.
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Yea this should be a positive, but man, I'm concerned that she isn't training with a team of chicks better than herself. I went and looked at the "303 Gym" and from what I see it's filled up with regular ol' Joe Schmoes — in this case Jane Schmoes lol — but there's no real comp for Rose at all. I saw her chatting with soccer moms on Instagram regarding the gym and classes and most were asking about weight loss and basically if the class would help lose that muffin top lol

Kind of scary. About as scary as one of the picks I seen that Luca made for UFC 210 and charged as a PREMIUM PLAY — it wars a -455 favorite and another-180 lol Crazy! If I paid $99 and that showed up I would be livid.
 
Oblivian said:
I'm surprised Nelson isn't favored over Volkov. Volkov has the tall man defense standing and he can be taken down easily.
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Against Tim his tdd was much improved hes put on some size since his Bellator stint.
 
Can't wait to see Tom Duquesnoy in the UFC man! Future championship material right here. Poor Patrick Williams fittin' to get hustled.
 
Sham5916910 said:
Against Tim his tdd was much improved hes put on some size since his Bellator stint.
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Tim Johnson's takedowns suck bad though. I know a lot of people in this thread are hyped on him, but the bulk of his fights are him grinding against the fence. I think Nelson can get the takedowns if he double legs, similar to how he took down Lewis. Volkov is pretty poor off his back.

Not saying Nelson is reliable at all either though. He has his flaws and gasses bad. It just seems favorable stylistically to me.
 
Oblivian said:
Tim Johnson's takedowns suck bad though. I know a lot of people in this thread are hyped on him, but the bulk of his fights are him grinding against the fence. I think Nelson can get the takedowns if he double legs, similar to how he took down Lewis. Volkov is pretty poor off his back.

Not saying Nelson is reliable at all either though. He has his flaws and gasses bad. It just seems favorable stylistically to me.
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Yeah solid point Johnson's td's do suck! Im done betting him after his last fight.
 
stretcharmstrong said:
Seriously surprised at the appreciation for Whittaker, the guy is complete garbage imo.
Jacare -200 is great.
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i favor jacare but whitaker is far from garbage lol. he's undersized against most of his MW opponents also.

Oblivian said:
Tim Johnson's takedowns suck bad though. I know a lot of people in this thread are hyped on him, but the bulk of his fights are him grinding against the fence. I think Nelson can get the takedowns if he double legs, similar to how he took down Lewis. Volkov is pretty poor off his back.

Not saying Nelson is reliable at all either though. He has his flaws and gasses bad. It just seems favorable stylistically to me.
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the thing about roy's double leg is that I'm worried the laws of physics won't let him bend over that far to attempt one! it must of been borderline vs lewis!

I'd guess volkov has better tdd than lewis and may be better at avoiding them due to him being so much faster than nelson. complete speculation on my part but I'm fairly confident each time we see nelson fight now we are seeing a slower and worse version of him.
 
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