UFC 215 - Johnson vs. Borg - Alberta, Canada

[TheOneTrueKing]

o1.5 latifi pedro at evens could be good. pedro recovered quick from that roundtree left. thoughts?

 

[Gugabe]

o1.5 latifi pedro at evens could be good. pedro recovered quick from that roundtree left. thoughts?

Pedro seems to hang out in the clinch a lot, which I think is a very poor decision against Latifi. Rountree could and should have finished Pedro off if he hadn't fucked up, and even Craig landed some good shots.

Latifi @ 1.8 is a rare betting opportunity in my book. It's almost as bad as Lamas being an underdog to Knight for no particular reason.

 

[MacPherson911]

And luckily MMA lines are ridiculously soft, so you can get away with it.

what does this mean?

 

[TheOneTrueKing]

what does this mean?

there is value on one of the sides more often in mma than other sports

 

[TheOneTrueKing]

anyone betting sarah mores? looking too bet evans myself. just wondering if im missing something. mores seems to find a way to end up on bottom every time. not good striking. serviceable jitz on back to keep her safe but not dangerous unless opponent is weak there or makes huge error. doesn't get up either. injuries. not expecting vast improvements

 

[Gugabe]

there is value on one of the sides more often in mma than other sports

It's a new sport, the bookies aren't given anywhere near as much 'behind the scenes' info as they are in other sports, and the matchmaking's a lot more competitive/honest as a rule of thumb than other major combat sports. There's a thing on Betmma that shows that taking every UFC underdog between 2.2-2.8 would give a 10% return for years.

 

[Sadistics]

anyone betting sarah mores? looking too bet evans myself. just wondering if im missing something. mores seems to find a way to end up on bottom every time. not good striking. serviceable jitz on back to keep her safe but not dangerous unless opponent is weak there or makes huge error. doesn't get up either. injuries. not expecting vast improvements

You nailed it. Between TUF and UFC Moras has spent around 80% of her fight time on her back, I don't think I've seen her put up any resistance when someone attempts a TD. While AES hasn't looked all that good and barely uses her wrestling, she's still a 4 time div 1 all american. Even if AES shows her usual low fight IQ and decides to keep it standing I still give her the edge. Moras and her 14% TDD isn't gonna cut it here.

Add to that Moras started a GoFundMe asking for $10k to help pay for this training camp, which has received 4 donations in the last month, though it has reached 4.9k!

 

[Agent Mulder]

Can anyone make a case for Ketlen Viera?

 

[vkram]

Can anyone make a case for Ketlen Viera?

It's WMMA, Vieira looked better vs AES than against Faszholz so maybe improving at a fast pace and McMann is 36 years old so she might fall off.

 

[wack3d]

fwiw Bhullar have been at AKA at least two years training with Cain and Cormier ect(thats how far back his instagram goes)

 

[wack3d]

It's WMMA, Vieira looked better vs AES than against Faszholz so maybe improving at a fast pace and McMann is 36 years old so she might fall off.

agreed she improved a ton since her first fight.. made AES look like a weak little girl Black Belt in Judo and she also have the height and reach advantage.. if she can keep it on the feet i think she have a good chance here

 

[Sham5916910]

We have no idea what Ketlan's tdd is like could be excellent in which case McMann is in trouble as she reacts horribly to being hit. Dog or pass for me. McMann is a great bet against certain opponents, but when her opponents tdd is unknown and she's a good striker it's a definite pass.

AES Moras is the lowest of the low WMMA fight. AES wrestling sucks. Against Pennington she didn't take the whizzer so allowed Pennington to take her back standing. I gave up after r1 of the Macedo fight who she made a big deal of despite a huge size advantage. The attempted head and arm throw where she gives her back end of r1 was enough for me to completely swerve this fight. Moras is baaddd but she's game and she will jump on any bad head and arm throw attempts. She did this against Andrade and Andrade was saved by the bell.

 

[Sadistics]

Can anyone make a case for Ketlen Viera?

On paper she should have the best TDD of any of McMann's previous opponents. She's a black belt in Judo, Brown belt in BJJ, was the Brazilian wrestling champ in 2009, and won bronze in Nationals in 2010. On the feet she's aggressive and packs power with combos and counters. McMann doesn't take shots well and may very well fold if she's not having success with her wrestling and being outstruck.

However, there's not much footage of Vieira defending TDs. AES shot on her in RD2 of their fight and Vieira effortlessly defended.

 

[wack3d]

Pedro seems to hang out in the clinch a lot, which I think is a very poor decision against Latifi. Rountree could and should have finished Pedro off if he hadn't fucked up, and even Craig landed some good shots.

Latifi @ 1.8 is a rare betting opportunity in my book. It's almost as bad as Lamas being an underdog to Knight for no particular reason.

i would expect JW to come up with a good game plan.. Latifi is very predictable in his striking and Pedro have a massive height and reach advantage he should look to exploit that here imo

 

[wack3d]

Bhullar is a very small HW, he's 5'11, definitely not the 6'1 the UFC site lists him as. He should be a LHW.
His striking is improving but still very slow and amateurish at times.

Henrique has never impressed me, his striking is probably on the same level as Bhullar's, maybe slightly better.
Henrique has a BJJ advantage and a bad gas tank.

I think the odds should be closer to even or maybe a very slight advantage to Bhullar.
Really hard to say with the lack of tape on Bhullar.

i think 6'1 is pretty accurate here he is next to Cormier hwo is 5'11

 

[Sham5916910]

Kajan Johnson has 5 fights in 6 years including TUF. He's coming off a two year lay off. Labrum/rotator cuff surgery and opening his own gym kept him on sidelines. He is self taught has no instructor and trains with a bunch of unknown guys who are basically his pupils. If you include his submission to strikes losses and a random amateur fight he had even though he had fought pro a bunch, hes been stopped by strikes 8 times. His two most recent losses he was one punched ko'd. Laprise aside his UFC opponents hold a combined UFC record of 2-11. Martins' volume is a slight concern, but aside from that Martins holds every advantage i can think of.

 

[DarkneT]

I'm all over Latifi, why the hell wouldn't you be?
Pedro.. we now know Paul Craig isn't upto much, and Rountree damn near executed him
And it's more how does this fight play out? I just see Latifi winging bungalows like Rountree did, with no fear of being taken down
Thoughts?

 

[DarkneT]

Kajan Johnson has 5 fights in 6 years including TUF. He's coming off a two year lay off. Labrum/rotator cuff surgery and opening his own gym kept him on sidelines. He is self taught has no instructor and trains with a bunch of unknown guys who are basically his pupils. If you include his submission to strikes losses and a random amateur fight he had even though he had fought pro a bunch, hes been stopped by strikes 8 times. His two most recent losses he was one punched ko'd. Laprise aside his UFC opponents hold a combined UFC record of 2-11. Martins' volume is a slight concern, but aside from that Martins holds every advantage i can think of.

I simply view this as a punishment fight and expect him to be cut afterwards for his mouth

 

[vkram]

I'm all over Latifi, why the hell wouldn't you be?
Pedro.. we now know Paul Craig isn't upto much, and Rountree damn near executed him
And it's more how does this fight play out? I just see Latifi winging bungalows like Rountree did, with no fear of being taken down
Thoughts?

Rountree is a much better striker than Latifi IMO. Plus the last time we've seen Latifi was him getting kneed into oblivion by Bader, who knows how he will look after that.

 

[DarkneT]

Rountree is a much better striker than Latifi IMO. Plus the last time we've seen Latifi was him getting kneed into oblivion by Bader, who knows how he will look after that.

Granted that was a helluva knockout I agree