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You were going to go into your schpeel about non fatal dog bite statistics and small dogs.
Have you ever heard of the Cloak of Competence?
You were going to go into your schpeel about non fatal dog bite statistics and small dogs.
Have you ever heard of the Cloak of Competence?
And how many pitbulls exist in the US, and how many deadly pitbull attacks are there?
See you freaking idiots like to talk numbers, but you aren't honest about what those numbers actually say.
What pitbull bite numbers actually say is that 99.99% of pitbulls will never bite a person. Fucking statistical fact.
"The Pit Bull is still responsible for the most fatal attacks in the U.S. by far, killing 284 people over that 13-year (2005-2018) - 66 percent of total fatalities. That's despite the breed accounting for just 6.5% of the total U.S. dog population"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...angerous-dog-breeds-infographic/#23d5abf462f8
I'd say over to course of the last 13 years close to 300 Americans, you know neighborhood kids and women, having their limbs, throats, major organs used as chew toys till they bled out or died in whatever insanely horrific manner is a big red flag for any breed of dog people are attempting to keep as household pets.
The fact this one breed that is 6.5% of the population accounts 66% of fatal attacks also happens to be a one that was selectively bred into existence to win killing and maiming contests isn't a coincidence. It's proof they never belonged as part of society in the first place.
"The Pit Bull is still responsible for the most fatal attacks in the U.S. by far, killing 284 people over that 13-year (2005-2018) - 66 percent of total fatalities. That's despite the breed accounting for just 6.5% of the total U.S. dog population"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...angerous-dog-breeds-infographic/#23d5abf462f8
I'd say over to course of the last 13 years close to 300 Americans, you know neighborhood kids and women, having their limbs, throats, major organs used as chew toys till they bled out or died in whatever insanely horrific manner is a big red flag for any breed of dog people are attempting to keep as household pets.
The fact this one breed that is 6.5% of the population accounts 66% of fatal attacks also happens to be a one that was selectively bred into existence to win killing and maiming contests isn't a coincidence. It's proof they never belonged as part of society in the first place.
Also proof how naive and overly emotional adults get when it comes to their pets.
And in what way does this invalidate what I said?
Fact: 99.99% of pitbulls will never bite a person.
Do you dispute this fact?
The article makes the same erros most do with this topic.
How is pitbull defined: are the UKC or ABDA registered APBT, Am Staffs, or Staffs; is it any dog that looks like a pitbull; who identified these dogs as pitbulls?
As both pointed out in Bandit (Hearne) and Pitbull (Dickey) both point out that those percentage stats are drawn from official registries AKC, UKC, ADBA etc. Most pitbulls are not registered, especially compared to expensive pure bred dogs. When you compare pitbull facbook accounts and internet sites, there are way more pitbulls than dog registries state.
The source is there for you to reference. Of course real studies are going to focus on more official registries and not go around counting facebook accounts made for "pitbulls". How would one confirm some facebook account has dogs that are actually pits or actually still alive? I don't know what you're getting on about with the last paragraph.
The flip side of your argument is assuming a dog bite is something a lot of owner's aren't going to want to report. Why would you call in your own dog? It's asking for trouble for you and your dog and making a paper trail for liability in future. Yeah I'm sure we don't have ever pitbull out there registered but we don't have every bite either. I do think we have enough data on both to point a very clear picture of the issue though.
The point is that if we only use dog breed registries for the number of a given breed of dog to establish dog bites stats, pitbulls will be massively over represented in dog bite stats as most pitbull are not registered.
Most dog bites are reported by victims or medical personal.
And in what way does this invalidate what I said?
Fact: 99.99% of pitbulls will never bite a person.
Do you dispute this fact?
I suppose it does seem that way.First you say:
Then you say:
This is extremely inconsistent.
I think it's more than 1/10,000 that will bit a person. Not kill, but bite.
I don't think there is any dog breed in existence that only 1/10,000 bites a person at some point.
They won’t be “massively” misrepresented because you have to apply your logic that not every owner registers their dogs to the other big breeds like rots, German Shepards, mastiffs, etc.
And even after that if there’s this population of pits these professional researchers left uncounted the amount of fatal attack’s pits account for is so great compared to other breeds, it’s still going to dispositional to their population.
You actually talk numbers in this thread and it seems pitbull defenders will either say “doesn’t count. the dog has to fit these strict guidelines to say it’s a pitbull” but when you discuss registered ones they say “what about counting all these random dogs I see on Facebook?”. It’s a lost cause.
You were throwing a bitch-fit saying people were dishonestly talking about numbers. So I'm honestly talking about numbers with you. I don't know where you got your numbers from, didn't catch a source. Either way everyone understands a majority of pit bulls won't bite you, it's the fact that their physical and behavioral selective breeding leads them to sometimes attack, and attack you with the traits that result in bloodbaths that rob innocent humans of their lives. If that's happening to the tune of a few hundred times a decade, than the risk of all these horrible deaths is not worth the rewards of .... keeping around this one breed of household pet.
It's a pet. I could see how children couldn't comprehend moving on to more logical choices as we move forward but not adults.
Fact: When it comes to fatal attacks, pitbulls have committed hundreds and hundreds in the last decade.
Fact: Pitbulls are far, far more likely to fatally attack you than any other breed. The other breeds aren't really even in the same ballpark as pits when it comes to the killing game. There's a reason for this.
Fact: Pits were bred into existence to win killing and maiming games.