Crime Houston no-knock drug warrant killings: Officer charged with murder (8/23 update)

[ultramanhyata]

And even after this, people will still regurgitate dumb responses like "Loggers and roofers have a more dangerous job"

If it's a question of the annual number of fatalities the data speaks for itself. But what makes you think such statistics somehow diminish the killing of police officers? It's the equivalent of suggesting that the death of someone who has succumbed to a rare form of cancer is somehow less consequential than deaths attributed to more common cancers of the breast or prostate. To put it bluntly, it's some crazy fucking reasoning.

 

[nhbbear]

And even after this, people will still regurgitate dumb responses like "Loggers and roofers have a more dangerous job"

Yeah, and my response is always that when the trees or crabs(fisherman) actively try to kill those guys, we can seriously talk about the kinds of dangers faced. I am sorry, and I mean no disrespect to those professions or any hurt or killed, but I will never look at the possibility and fear that police officers face with dangerous people, and the dangers faced by loggers or roofers as the same. You can’t tell me that the people in these professions think that there is any chance that when they leave for work, that they may be seeing their kids/wife for the last time. I go through that every day I go to work. Every day.

 

[nhbbear]

And prayers for the officers. For the suspect, I hope you feel the worms crawling through your body.

 

[nhbbear]

about 86 percent change that a few leftist scum here will throw a hissy fit about the bold remarks above.

1) why couldn't the police just shoot the guns out of their hands!!

2) why couldn't the police just shoot them in the leg!

3) why did the police shoot so many times!!

People that have never seriously taken any kind of gun self defense courses, had police experience, or military experience.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

sending thoughts and prayers.

Doubtful.

 

[RoosterHucklebuck]

If it's a question of the annual number of fatalities the data speaks for itself. But what makes you think such statistics somehow diminish the killing of police officers? It's the equivalent of suggesting that the death of someone who has succumbed to a rare form of cancer is somehow less consequential than deaths attributed to more common cancers of the breast or prostate. To put it bluntly, it's some crazy fucking reasoning.

First off, the total number of police officers that are factored into those numbers doesn't = the amount that out in the field where the actual danger is at, and secondly, the number of annual fatalities shouldn't be the only factor into "How dangerous a job is"

When a logger punches in, does he have to worry about being attacked while he is working? Maybe by angry beavers, but not by the public. Anytime you are dealing with irate citizens, especially during domestic disputes, you are walking into a potentially dangerous situation every time.

Today 5 officers were shot, none of them will probably die, so should we not factor them into how dangerous a job is because they survived?

When you do factor in how many on duty police officers are attacked every year along with how many are killed, where does the danger of being a Police Officer rank now?

 

[trac209]

Awful news hope they pull through

 

[Lvnvmma]

I hear it's gotten bad in cities in Texas like Houston after hurricane Katrina in 2005, when there was a mass exodus of people from New Orleans moving to Texas. There's a clear spike in violent crime after this happened.

 

[lifelessheap]

And even after this, people will still regurgitate dumb responses like "Loggers and roofers have a more dangerous job"

Logging is really dangerous.

You should try it.

 

[RoosterHucklebuck]

Yeah, and my response is always that when the trees or crabs(fisherman) actively try to kill those guys, we can seriously talk about the kinds of dangers faced. I am sorry, and I mean no disrespect to those professions or any hurt or killed, but I will never look at the possibility and fear that police officers face with dangerous people, and the dangers faced by loggers or roofers as the same. You can’t tell me that the people in these professions think that there is any chance that when they leave for work, that they may be seeing their kids/wife for the last time. I go through that every day I go to work. Every day.

Exactly. 5 officers were shot today with the intent of them being killed. So if none of them die, then their shooting shouldn't be factored into the equation of how dangerous their job is simply because they lived?

 

[RoosterHucklebuck]

Logging is really dangerous.

You should try it.

I am sure that it is. But how many loggers are attacked on the job every year?

That is my point, not that the threat of death isn't there, but that they are not dealing with hostile humans on a daily basis that they have to worry about attacking them while they are trying to do their job.

 

[Zankou]

Yeah, and my response is always that when the trees or crabs(fisherman) actively try to kill those guys, we can seriously talk about the kinds of dangers faced. I am sorry, and I mean no disrespect to those professions or any hurt or killed, but I will never look at the possibility and fear that police officers face with dangerous people, and the dangers faced by loggers or roofers as the same. You can’t tell me that the people in these professions think that there is any chance that when they leave for work, that they may be seeing their kids/wife for the last time. I go through that every day I go to work. Every day.

They don’t, but that’s because people are horrible at understanding and feeling statistical risk.

People think driving in cars is super safe and basically no risk. Yet they’re petrified of sharks. The idea that somebody or something might actively try to kill them is far more terrifying than the possibility that they are going to choke on a piece of steak or trip and fall over a railing.

 

[G-19]

Damn that is a lot of officers hit by gunfire.

Hope they pull through and suspect is taking a dirt nap.

Here is the live stream
https://www.click2houston.com/news/several-officers-shot-in-southeast-houston-chief-says

One gunmen managed to hit 5 officers.

Damn that is a lot of officers hit by gunfire.

Hope they pull through and suspect is taking a dirt nap.

Here is the live stream
https://www.click2houston.com/news/several-officers-shot-in-southeast-houston-chief-says

Was this an ambush?

 

[Protectandserve]

One gunmen managed to hit 5 officers.

Was this an ambush?

Warrant service. They got hit on the approach after doing the announcement.

There were like 18 cops there though according to the latest press conference.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

I am sure that it is. But how many loggers are attacked on the job every year?

That is my point, not that the threat of death isn't there, but that they are not dealing with hostile humans on a daily basis that they have to worry about attacking them while they are trying to do their job.

Loggers don't get to see raped women and children let alone dead bodies either.

Fuck that stupid argument.

 

[G-19]

Warrant service. They got hit on the approach after doing the announcement.

There were like 18 cops there though according to the latest press conference.

Search warrants suck for multiple reasons. Hopefully all the officers make a full recovery.

 

[nhbbear]

Exactly. 5 officers were shot today with the intent of them being killed. So if none of them die, then their shooting shouldn't be factored into the equation of how dangerous their job is simply because they lived?

Yeah, they should have thought of the statistics before deciding to survive. It’s like the profession is overlooked because of only x amount of officers actually dying and the large number of officers in the country.

 

[nhbbear]

They don’t, but that’s because people are horrible at understanding and feeling statistical risk.

People think driving in cars is super safe and basically no risk. Yet they’re petrified of sharks. The idea that somebody or something might actively try to kill them is far more terrifying than the possibility that they are going to choke on a piece of steak or trip and fall over a railing.

Yeah, and I know that I am far more likely to die in a car wreck or have a heart attack on the job, but that is not what keeps me or my wife up some nights. A car wreck is not what makes me emotional when I tuck my kids in before heading out to a midnight shift on a Friday night.

 

[G-19]

"They were just trying to get home to their families."

My favorite.

My favorite was the guy who said bartenders lol

 

[Fawlty]

Yeah, and my response is always that when the trees or crabs(fisherman) actively try to kill those guys, we can seriously talk about the kinds of dangers faced. I am sorry, and I mean no disrespect to those professions or any hurt or killed, but I will never look at the possibility and fear that police officers face with dangerous people, and the dangers faced by loggers or roofers as the same. You can’t tell me that the people in these professions think that there is any chance that when they leave for work, that they may be seeing their kids/wife for the last time. I go through that every day I go to work. Every day.

Bolded is going too far. The real difference here is that the danger is human when you're a cop, and yes that is a serious psychological factor and it deserves to be set aside. A death from "nature" is psychologically preferable for a number of reasons. But yes coal miners, loggers (especially a few decades ago), certain fisherman, and a number of others are quite aware of the fact that they may not come home to their families. The problem for cops is they don't feel safe when they come home, because that's where the danger is; where lots of people are.