Prime Wanderlei Silva would beat new generation champions

[FrankDux]

Also, on the flipside...how bad would a roided up Jon Jones or Cormier destroy every single fighter that walked inside the Pride rings if they fought in that time period?

 

[RiotWyatt]

Prime Wanderlei got KO'd by Vitor.

That wasn't Prime Wanderlei. The fact that you used that particular fight to argue your point shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

The ring doesn't just help his style. It helps ANYONE'S style who happens to have poor TDD. And I'm not saying his TDD was poor per se. I'm just saying that when you're fighting in the ring...if you get taken down outside of the ring they stand you back up inside. That benefits people who don't like to get taken down.

Wandy's record inside Pride with a ring: 22-4-2 (1 draw, 1 no contest)

Wandy's record inside the UFC with a cage: 5-7

In what way does a ring help TDD? The cage helps it way more as you can lean on it much more easily and you cannot be bounced off a cage like you can with ropes. You keep saying that a ring helps with TDD but you aren't giving any reason whatsoever why that would help.

We see guys not getting takedowns every event in a cage because the cage is in the way, if they were in a ring, the guy with his back on the cage would just get bounced off the ropes and taken down like Arona constantly did to people in Pride.

The cage also makes it much easier to get back up, you can much more easily wall walk back to your feet with an actual wall than with ropes.

Wanderlei was in his prime while he was fighting in a ring, he was passed his prime by the time he started fighting in cages that has way more to due with his record.

 

[BrazilianDude]

That would be one of the easiest jobs the USADA ever had

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Also, on the flipside...how bad would a roided up Jon Jones or Cormier destroy every single fighter that walked inside the Pride rings if they fought in that time period?

Jon Jones is already roided up.

Jones would be greatly hampered by Pride's rules and much smaller ring as well as the curved gloves that prevent "accidental" eye pokes. Jones wouldn't be allowed to elbow and he wouldn't have nearly as much room to fight people on the outside without getting trapped in a corner. Jones' style is far more suited to a cage and north american rules, he wouldn't be nearly as good in a ring with elbows being illegal and the ring being much smaller with corners.

DC would probably do about the same or better since he actually wants to fight up really close and he doesn't really use elbows.

 

[mjfan23]

He would be favorite but USADA TKOs him every time

 

[GIBLERTBAPTISTA]

Are you slow? Fighters could fail commission tests and that's why they had to clean up for them. How many drug tests Ubereem failed in Japan? Zero, because there were no steroid tests.

Look up "the whizzinator", alot of guys were using for testing back in the day among other things like masking agents. Also only a select few from each UFC event were actually tested, usually main and co mains. UFC guys were just as JUICED as the PRIDE guys.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Also, fighters today aren't dumb and they know if they are going up against a caveman that is going to go balls out swinging like Wandy loved to do...(as I mentioned earlier), today's fighters are more well rounded and smarter and know what not to do. Also, prime Wandy was roided AF. That prime Wandy wouldn't make it inside the octagon today.

Costa and Romero exist.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

That would be one of the easiest jobs the USADA ever had

Costa and Romero.

 

[CrocopHKtotheballs]

A fully geared up, prime Wand from Pride was nothing to fuck with. He threw down on the feet with no fear against a physical prime Hunt. Just the level of intensity you would need to match Hunts intensity as a MW. Insane.

In pride mw where actually lhw

 

[kalabula]

I wish someone woulda come along and be the new Wandy. Eh Justin Gathje does an okay job

Costa?

 

[puppybird]

Casual alert.......

Anyone that uses ‘casual’ as an insult is an incel virgin loser

 

[Natural Order]

Anyone that uses ‘casual’ as an insult is an incel virgin loser

You prefer noob? Poser? Dumbass?

Incel? Nah, married with two kids.
Virgin? See above.
Loser? Some days. You can't win em all.

 

[CrimsonFan]

Wand could probably still break top 10 at LHW right now. If he was driven and his body could keep upllp

I think hes the best LHW ever. Him or Liddell. Not Jones thats for sure hes boring as hell

 

[Blayt7hh]

Who that bum in your profile pic?

Harmonica boy who studied engineering?

Your noob is showing

 

[Natural Order]

Anyone that uses ‘casual’ as an insult is an incel virgin loser

Worst casual
Knows who Fedor is
No

Filthy casual

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

Who that bum in your profile pic?

Harmonica boy who studied engineering?

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/my-friends-say-i-looked-like-anthony-pettis.2896581/

Real sherdoggers recognize him as a legend that created the above thread.

 

[Blayt7hh]

I really don’t know how so many of you could hate on Wand. He’s the JBG’s avatar here on Earth. I think it’s mostly envy that you guys weren’t watching the sport when he was killing guys

 

[Blayt7hh]

Got him

 

[BrazilianDude]

Costa and Romero.

You have a point...
How they are getting away with it is still a mistery to me... Wand does not seem like a particularly smart dude. I don't think he would beat the tests.