Opinion Should Capital be taxed like wages?

[Hollywood Jack]

You don’t make enough money a death tax would even effect you.

High IQ grifters like Frank Luntz knew what they were doing when they rebranded the estate tax as the "death tax". Guys like him know they don't have "estates" to pass on or inherit, but "death" emotionally resonates with them. These people have been neo-conned into voting against their own interests.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Reread your posts. You said that I support taking more money out of labors pockets. This whole thing you’re doing is in bad faith.

Decreasing taxes on labor would leave more money in labors hands.

Do you deny this statement?

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

High IQ grifters like Frank Luntz knew what they were doing when they rebranded the estate tax as the "death tax". Guys like him know they don't have "estates" to pass on or inherit, but "death" emotionally resonates with them. These people have been neo-conned into voting against their own interests.

Farmers view the estate tax as immoral and needing to be eliminated on principle alone.

Just some perspective.

 

[Trotsky]

...lolz @ savings accounts

itt: clickbait title that's not about capital, but capital gains taxes.

also itt: people who have no idea what capital gains taxes are/entail, but post nonsense, anyway.

this thread's hilarious. lefties want to punish everyone who isn't dependent upon the govt by taking more from them, while rewarding leeches for leeching.

it makes no sense. lefty logic incentivizes being lazy and mooching.

WOW BTFO

MUST SEE: @PolishHeadlock2 and @kpt018 truly DESTROYED by actual finance expert, EXPOSED for not knowing what capital gains are.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Capitol gains and corporate tax should be lower, if anything, and the death tax should be completely repealed

you don't tax societies into prosperity, period

and it basically tells me that almost everyone that is for it, has no retirement plan or savings and thus their opinion is largely irrelevant

LOL. This is why Mitt Romney has a tax rate of 13% while regular people pay two or three times as much. And you want him to pay even less.

I have a six-figure Fidelity Mutual Fund account. People like me who are well educated tend to lean to the left while Trump rallies look like white trash conventions.

 

[rob mafia]

LOL. This is why Mitt Romney has a tax rate of 13% while regular people pay two or three times as much. And you want him to pay even less.

I have a six-figure Fidelity Mutual Fund account. People like me who are well educated tend to lean to the left while Trump rallies look like white trash conventions.

i mean, it's probably better than a savings account, but...

 

[vengeful]

Farmers view the estate tax as immoral and needing to be eliminated on principle alone.

Just some perspective.

It's definitely immoral and a tad bit dumb too. Inheriting an overvalued farm and having to pay huge taxes on it is stupid. Taxes on an inheritance like a farm should only be paid when the farm is sold.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Farmers view the estate tax as immoral and needing to be eliminated on principle alone.

Just some perspective.

Assuming this is the case, is this a long standing principle of theirs, or is it a fairly new consensus brought on by neoliberal propaganda that has crushed labor?

 

[jx820]

you don't tax societies into prosperity, period

Man, when you hear about paved roads and public education you are going to change your tune.

Seriously though the 1950s were a boom time in US economics and the top tax rate on the 0.01% was over 55%. The fluidity of money is key to a prosperous economy.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

i mean, it's probably better than a savings account, but...

What would you recommend then?

And it's actually well established that well educated people tend to lean left.

https://www.people-press.org/2016/0...n-more-and-less-educated-adults/4-22-2016_01/

 

[rob mafia]

But the president has been bailing out farms across the country with tax payer money.

kinda/sorta. more like "bailing out" with "tax payer money" that was basically reimbursed via tariffs.

So why should my taxes go to your farm and not a national health care program for all the citizens of the country?

I mean I know you’re a troll and probably not even a farmer in real life but an explanation would be nice

or option 3 - go to neither.

and just sayin' - but the farm subsidies/etc didn't cost ~$32 trillian or whatever the cost was of medicare for all.

 

[Gregolian]

You’re in the dark here. The majority of America, Republican voters and democratic voters alike want a national healthcare system.

The majority of the country thinks you’re wrong and they also believe national programs need to be funded on a national level.

This alt right talking point of “just send some money someplace” is not an answer nor a solution for funding a national program


I still don’t Know why my taxes support your failing business though?

To be fair to the last part..... if someone grows like corn that not only feeds the country but byproducts are used to make ethanol and shit so if they start failing the country could potentially suffer

 

[rob mafia]

What would you recommend then?

And it's actually well established that well educated people tend to lean left.

https://www.people-press.org/2016/0...n-more-and-less-educated-adults/4-22-2016_01/

"well established"

lolz @ the "well educated" person having to ask me for financial recommendations after mentioning a... mutual fund.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Assuming this is the case, is this a long standing principle of theirs, or is it a fairly new consensus brought on by neoliberal propaganda that has crushed labor?

Every farmer I've ever met and their Fathers before them, and their Fathers before them oppose the estate/death tax.

My Great Great Grandfather opposed the estate tax when it was implemented in 1916.

My Grandfather was referring to the estate tax as "the death tax" all the way back in the 1980's. This isn't some new phenomenon started by the likes of Frank Luntz.

Farmers have been fairly unified against this tax from it's very start. I'm somewhat shocked to find someone who didn't know this.

Is it fair to assume you don't know very many farmers in your personal life?

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

To be fair to the last part..... if someone grows like corn that not only feeds the country but byproducts are used to make ethanol and shit so if they start failing the country could potentially suffer

So you’re saying people who need affordable healthcare don’t work as well and produce goods and services the country uses.

I mean come on man. How could you say that?

 

[Gregolian]

So you’re saying people who need affordable healthcare don’t work as well and produce goods and services the country uses.

I mean come on man. How could you say that?

That isn’t what I said at all. I didn’t even touch the healthcare portion, just pointing out why farms can and do get bailouts for shit tier years.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

That isn’t what I said at all. I didn’t even touch the healthcare portion, just pointing out why farms can and do get bailouts for shit tier years.

I don’t even mind if Americans get help through taxes but don’t also begrudge other people because you’re selfish.

And when I say selfish I’m not talking about your specifically.

 

[Gregolian]

I don’t even mind if Americans get help through taxes but don’t also begrudge other people because you’re selfish.

And when I say selfish I’m not talking about your specifically.

Yeah, my post wasn’t saying people don’t deserve healthcare. It was more I get why farms get subsidies and bailouts.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Every farmer I've ever met and their Fathers before them, and their Fathers before them oppose the estate/death tax.

My Great Great Grandfather opposed the estate tax when it was implemented in 1916.

My Grandfather was referring to the estate tax as "the death tax" all the way back in the 1980's. This isn't some new phenomenon started by the likes of Frank Luntz.

Farmers have been fairly unified against this tax from it's very start. I'm somewhat shocked to find someone who didn't know this.

Is it fair to assume you don't know very many farmers in your personal life?

Yeah, I grew up and lived in urban areas my whole life. Fair enough. Farmers have a long standing exception to the estate tax and perhaps there should be reasonable exemptions for them. I'm all about fairness.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Yeah, my post wasn’t saying people don’t deserve healthcare. It was more I get why farms get subsidies and bailouts.

Sure but why not help subsidize the costs for other Americans who produce goods and services?

If you can do it for one person you can surely do it for another.