I don't understand people who rank Nogueira above Stipe

[BKMMAFAN]

Green no wrestling Ngannou is the best win he has. Got KOd by fat slob DC & struve. Beat a bunch of old chinny dudes.

Most importantly he’s a weirdo and impossible to like, which is why he gets no credit.


Above average HW these days I suppose.

He's a firefighter who is barely intelligible. That's not a weirdo.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

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You´re the one talkin´about fights & skill sets, mate. You have to be ready for potential rebuttals.

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You didn't rebut anything lol, you asked me about Nog's striking development from Ring to Pride like I'm going to give you an essay on that, I never watched him in Ring... I watched his Pride fights, and you can just see Stipe is better imo

 

[gono btw]

You didn't rebut anything lol, you asked me about Nog's striking development from Ring to Pride like I'm going to give you an essay on that, I never watched him in Ring... I watched his Pride fights, and you can just see Stipe is better imo

Gottah love those 'lol' at the end of those 'arguments', tho.... Imagine if you dedicated that time to drop some legit assessments...

Anyway... that´s the thing, mate... A fighter´s legacy/career is like a book: you have to acknowledge all its parts,
cant pull one.
You hardly watched all the parts? This alone disqualifies your assessment.

Now, if I ask you the qualitative evolution in his boxin´ between the Semmy & the Sergei fights [Pride fights], whatcha gonna say?

It iz what it iz.

 

[Gambit MMA]

You didn't rebut anything lol, you asked me about Nog's striking development from Ring to Pride like I'm going to give you an essay on that, I never watched him in Ring... I watched his Pride fights, and you can just see Stipe is better imo

stipe is better, hes not gonna cave in tho and is gonna keep peddling nonsense about the good ole days

i love PRIDE, and it was a superior organization and product to watch than the UFC. im not fanboying over any of those guys over a decade later tho. many of those guys have moved on and probably dont even remember or care about half the shit we argue about on forums

 

[snugglecakes]

> meh, Stop lyin´.

Gono said:



And to that rather polite rebuttal, you replied:



You´re a real weirdoh, mate... always in denial.

> I was about to ask you how many hours you dedicate to this video game shit every day, but.... from your answer... pretty clear you´re big time addicted.

In short, you´re a true NERD, my dear friend.

that was after you called me retarded so you deserved it. It’s fine mang just admit you think anybody is retarded if they don’t agree with yur TLDR threads and opinions. Just embrace who you are.

N you can do whatever you want with yur recreational free time at home whether it’s watching fight reruns, movies, beating off to cans such as gono, or playing the nerdiest game you can find. I don’t care n neither should you. There isn’t much difference. It is all looking at a screen. It could be a movie, a roided can crushing mma match replay from 15+ years ago, or a video game. It’s all equally a waste of time.

The nerdier person is defined by who threw the first insult over a disagreement over any of those screen activities and that was you who did that. That also defines who is the bigger asshole

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Gottah love those 'lol' at the end of those 'arguments', tho.... Imagine if you dedicated that time to drop some legit assessments...

Anyway... that´s the thing, mate... A fighter´s legacy/career is like a book: you have to acknowledge all its parts,
cant pull one.
You hardly watched all the parts? This alone disqualifies your assessment.

It iz what it iz.

If you're comparing careers maybe, but I'm just saying prime vs prime who wins... Stipe is just technically better, it jumps out of the screen at you.. could you imagine what DC vs Nog would look like? I bet the majority of fighters currently in the UFC would say that as well because it's pretty fucking obvious if you watch them.

Nog is a legend in his era so it's no disrespect to him

 

[gono btw]

If you're comparing careers maybe, but I'm just saying prime vs prime who wins... Stipe is just technically better, it jumps out of the screen at you.. could you imagine what DC vs Nog would look like? I bet the majority of fighters currently in the UFC would say that as well because it's pretty fucking obvious if you watch them.

Nog is a legend in his era so it's no disrespect to him

ok that´s not really what I asked...

 

[snugglecakes]

You´re a real pathological liar, mate.

Show us in that thread:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...oat-discussions.4004287/page-7#post-154532943

where Gono insulted you 1st, b4 you called him 'dumbass'.

Meanwhile, the way you talk about this video game shit really makes me think that you´re a shameless addicted, and wont even acknowledge it.
"Watchin´the screen"... Watchin´a movie is not like playin´video games shit, bein´addicted to this shit & dedicate several hours (I bet >5 in your case) truly reveals your shitty life, sorry to tell you, mate...

Why “that thread.” A few posts ago u linked a different thread saying that was our first dust up then u link a completely different one and said that 1 was the first dust up. You just destroyed your credibility on that.

mma cards are what? 6-8 hours these days? That’s infinitely longer than any video game session in 1 sitting of my entire life. Yet you probably watch every single second of an mma broadcast, followed by post fight press conference, then write a novel about it line for another hour,and then call somebody a nerd for playing a 20 minute online match. LOLOL sit down son

 

[snugglecakes]

Nah, ya triple idiot.

This thread Im talkin´about (1st time I quoted you) was last year:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...oat-discussions.4004287/page-7#post-154532943

That other one where I bitch-slapped you was in 2020:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/fedor-in-ufc-yes-or-no.4088417/page-7#post-159212053

Stupid M´fkah.smh

> About video games shit: confirmed you dedicate at least 5 hrs per day... Whattah sissy nerd...lmao

Neither of those was the first time but linking somebody a wall of text TLDR thread they created is actually a direct insult.. even worse. That was literally trying to tie somebody to a torture rack and it would warrant being called every insult in the book. Even tho that wasn’t our first dust up u insulted first in that particular instance as usual.
If I tried to force you to read something that tldr you would be well within yur right to punch me in the jaw IRL and it would be justified without any criminal proceedings warranted. Linking me That torture thread may very well be the number 1 most insulting thing you have ever said actually. Shame on you for that. I’m still nursing the cancer aids corona mega hybrid virus it gave me still to this day.

P.s. you spend more hours watching mma and posting about mma than I do playing video games period

 

[snugglecakes]

Mate...for real... I legit lol-ed.

It’s no laughing matter. The mental pain and anguish seeing your thread caused be should be grounds for a lawsuit. You got off light that something something ass was the only slap on the wrist you got. You should be paying for my therapist bills.
Linking me that thread was no different than linking me tub girl, meat spin,2 girls 1 cup, or lemon party and then trying to claim it wasn’t a direct insult.

 

[Grenades]

Gottah love those 'lol' at the end of those 'arguments', tho.... Imagine if you dedicated that time to drop some legit assessments...

Anyway... that´s the thing, mate... A fighter´s legacy/career is like a book: you have to acknowledge all its parts,
cant pull one.
You hardly watched all the parts? This alone disqualifies your assessment.

Now, if I ask you the qualitative evolution in his boxin´ between the Semmy & the Sergei fights [Pride fights], whatcha gonna say?

It iz what it iz.

By that logic, did you see Barry Bonds in AA OR AAA? If not, you can’t talk about his time in the bigs. I do see your point but can’t quite agree with.

 

[gono btw]

By that logic, did you see Barry Bonds in AA OR AAA? If not, you can’t talk about his time in the bigs. I do see your point but can’t quite agree with.

I dont watch that sport. Nowadays, it´s pretty easy to have access to a fighter´s complete career. No excuses.

 

[Tweak896]

Big nog would absolutely lose in his prime today. He was great when BJJ defense wasn't as uniform and he had decent boxing to mix it up. But he would get blasted by punches and wrestling even in his prime. He still probably has a top 5 spot or close, but yeah his skillset is almost as bad as comparing royce gracie to modern fighters. Fun fighter to watch and in his time was #2 hw goat.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Big nog would absolutely lose in his prime today. He was great when BJJ defense wasn't as uniform and he had decent boxing to mix it up. But he would get blasted by punches and wrestling even in his prime. He still probably has a top 5 spot or close, but yeah his skillset is almost as bad as comparing royce gracie to modern fighters. Fun fighter to watch and in his time was #2 hw goat.

You say BJJ defense wasn't uniform yet he had wins over grappling gods like Barnett, Werdum, Ricco? You said is boxing was "decent," so i take it you have never watched Nog fight Sergei, or Herring 3x or Barnett 2x?

Big difference in Nog and Royce's skillset. That comparison makes no sense. They are completely different. I suggest you go watch Nog's entire career and you might have a new favorite fighter

 

[pankrat]

Big nog would absolutely lose in his prime today. He was great when BJJ defense wasn't as uniform and he had decent boxing to mix it up. But he would get blasted by punches and wrestling even in his prime. He still probably has a top 5 spot or close, but yeah his skillset is almost as bad as comparing royce gracie to modern fighters. Fun fighter to watch and in his time was #2 hw goat.

you say he still holds a top5 spot then you say is almost as bad as royce compared to modern fighters, who would not be even top 50 most likely. You just dont make any sense

 

[moreorless87]

What’s childish is getting butt hurt and insulting somebody online cause they had an opinion that differs from your own and then crying to yur boyfriend to come help you.
Leave me to my god given right to think big nog sucked big dig at mma just like i leave you the right to think whatever you do..

Which is exactly what your doing, resorting to a tide of childish insults when someone questions something you post.

 

[PalmStrike]

Im a Hunt fan but I can’t get behind that statement. Both Hunt and Ngannou have big power but Ngannou is an absolute terror and on another level as far as striking power and results, both subjectively and objectively.

Meh, Ngannou looks great hitting pads but he doesn't fight like he trains.

You can see his straight punches coming a mile away and he throws hooks from his hip for fuqqs sake.

Pride Hunt would KO any version of Francis.

Also:

 

[moreorless87]

stipe is better, hes not gonna cave in tho and is gonna keep peddling nonsense about the good ole days

i love PRIDE, and it was a superior organization and product to watch than the UFC. im not fanboying over any of those guys over a decade later tho. many of those guys have moved on and probably dont even remember or care about half the shit we argue about on forums

The problem with this viewpoint is that a lot of Stipes rep is based on fighters like Overeem, Werdum, Hunt and Arlovski from "the good old days".

 

[PalmStrike]

People chitting on Sapp...

I remember when NO ONE wanted to fight Big Cat Erickson and he literally did nothing but lay on top of guys.

The Smashing Machine too...Kerr had terrible GnP and they called him the Smashing Machine?

Try and convince me Sapp was a joke...dude was strong and skilled and had good cardio.

 

[firstroundpick]

He's definitely better than Werdum was at 38.

no