Social "Systemic Racism"

surgeyou1 said:
Only on Sherdog do racist people tell you that racism doesn't exist

What a great community.
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These racist idiots are turning this place into 4chan and stormfront. You basically have to call someone a "n÷=$#@" in order to get banned.

Most racists don't think they are racist. And they like to take the racially oppressed and call them racists for bringing it up.
 
MMAGA said:
Is "systemic racism" really a thing in the U.S.? I'm seeing this term being thrown around a lot as of late.

I'll admit there are regions of this country, very small pockets in the grand scheme of things, that I, as a Mexican male, would not venture into. Heck, there are parts here in L.A. where the lines between racism and culturalism get fuzzy. I can only imagine it's the same for blacks in specific regions throughout the country.

I remember working in Pennsylvania and seeing black men with white women walking around at the mall, and no one was batting an eye. But, the second my Hispanic buddy and I walked into a restaurant, bar, etc., you'd literally hear the record skip. One lady at a Cracker Barrel, without hesitation, before even taking our order, said, "you two look different". We advised her we were LEOs working in the area, and everyone went about their business. We laughed it off, but it still felt a little odd. She turned out to be a sweetheart who simply didn't see brownish people all that often, if ever.

So, the term "systemic" tends to lend itself to a grander scheme, one were EVERYONE is involved. Personally, I don't believe that to be true...not even close. As I mentioned before, there are no doubt pockets throughout the U.S. where certain skin colors, cultures, etc. are shunned, even harassed, and unfortunately sometimes injured/killed.

I'm hearing many pastors and political figures stating that "systemic racism" must be eradicated. First, I'll reiterate my belief that there is no such thing as "systemic racism", and I don't see the government, or ANYONE for that matter, doing anything to persuade people from getting stuck in their bubbles, and being less than welcoming to "foreign" cultures.

What that SOB did to George Floyd was absolutely sickening. It's almost as if he went mentally retarded for those 7-8 minutes. I'm hoping to see his partners charged, as well. Personally, I don't know of ANY law enforcement agency that teaches such a technique. BUT, this idiot's actions DO NOT mirror the beliefs, feelings, and/or actions of the 800,000+ sworn law enforcement personnel in the U.S.
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No. You could walk in any place in Dallas and no one is going to even notice you dude. Im white as white gets and have always got along with black folks. Black folks will usually almost give you a nod back if you wave at them or say whatsup. When you grow up in the south, you grow up with all races. We never even thought about race. Social media is going to be the downfall of civilization. Everything is politicized.
 
Headkicktoleg said:
There obviously isn't systemic racism in the police. There is a culture of distrust between the black community and police. Olive branches need to be extended, but they also need to be accepted and returned. Of course a cop will be nervous around people who sing fuck the police and of course black people will be nervous around cops when they think they are out to get them.
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Reading up on Chauvin, I found out he had 18 complaints against him during his tenure with his PD, 2 of which were "closed with discipline".

Now, as an active LEO, I can attest to detainees, inmates, etc. filing bogus complaints. I've been the subject of 1 formal complaint, which I was cleared of...because, quite frankly, I didn't do anything wrong! A fellow officer was filed on last year, with the "victim" claiming that this officer threatened his life. The "victim" even provided a photo of the officer who threatened him. Well, the photo was an old photo he probably obtained online, and the photo had nothing to do with the supposed event were this officer "threatened" the "victim". Btw, the officer had NEVER had ANY type of contact with the "victim". Funny now...but, not funny when he was being questioned by our internal affairs.

Out of those 18 complaints against Chauvin, I'm sure more than half were legit to some degree, but details are sparse regarding these complaints, so we're not sure what they could've been related to. Judging by his recent actions, it's safe to assume he may have gotten overly-aggressive with people he encountered on the street. All assumptions, of course. Regardless, the dude screwed up royally this time!
 
MMAGA said:
Is "systemic racism" really a thing in the U.S.? I'm seeing this term being thrown around a lot as of late.

I'll admit there are regions of this country, very small pockets in the grand scheme of things, that I, as a Mexican male, would not venture into. Heck, there are parts here in L.A. where the lines between racism and culturalism get fuzzy. I can only imagine it's the same for blacks in specific regions throughout the country.

I remember working in Pennsylvania and seeing black men with white women walking around at the mall, and no one was batting an eye. But, the second my Hispanic buddy and I walked into a restaurant, bar, etc., you'd literally hear the record skip. One lady at a Cracker Barrel, without hesitation, before even taking our order, said, "you two look different". We advised her we were LEOs working in the area, and everyone went about their business. We laughed it off, but it still felt a little odd. She turned out to be a sweetheart who simply didn't see brownish people all that often, if ever.

So, the term "systemic" tends to lend itself to a grander scheme, one were EVERYONE is involved. Personally, I don't believe that to be true...not even close. As I mentioned before, there are no doubt pockets throughout the U.S. where certain skin colors, cultures, etc. are shunned, even harassed, and unfortunately sometimes injured/killed.

I'm hearing many pastors and political figures stating that "systemic racism" must be eradicated. First, I'll reiterate my belief that there is no such thing as "systemic racism", and I don't see the government, or ANYONE for that matter, doing anything to persuade people from getting stuck in their bubbles, and being less than welcoming to "foreign" cultures.

What that SOB did to George Floyd was absolutely sickening. It's almost as if he went mentally retarded for those 7-8 minutes. I'm hoping to see his partners charged, as well. Personally, I don't know of ANY law enforcement agency that teaches such a technique. BUT, this idiot's actions DO NOT mirror the beliefs, feelings, and/or actions of the 800,000+ sworn law enforcement personnel in the U.S.
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You know what, man? As a dude who is probably more anti-cop than pro-cop on the continuum, I thank you for your sincerity.
 
skysolo said:
You don't see this prevailing attitude?

You know the answer to this but you are playing stupid. You have walked this earth. You weren't born yesterday.

Why don't you ask if water is wet. It would make as just much sense.
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Just leave...you're making an ass of yourself.
 
I wouldn't call it "systemic racism" at this point, since "systemic racism" would be something more akin to Jim Crow laws or Hitler's legislation against Jews. Outright, blatant, systemic oppression of a minority group, who aren't, even in theory, granted the same rights as others.

The "racism" that occurs in the U.S., is something that's a lot more difficult to point out and address, than a clear, blatant flaw in the system. Sometimes it's the result of individuals abusing authority, or collectives protecting their own opportunities at the expense of others, and also the historical circumstances which led to some groups lagging behind others in development, never truly catching up even in seemingly "equal" circumstances (because that gap has never truly been properly addressed). All of the factors involved are what contributes to an experience which is still seemingly discriminatory, even if the system itself, in theory, does not discriminate.

At the end of the day the people, the citizens, contribute to the experience as much as the system does. If the people are hard-line racist then even the most egalitarian system won't be able to address that. We've seen that with some of the socialist experiments.

Just reading the laws of America and such, you can pretty much tell that it's one of the "least" racist systems as far as legislation goes (although it's probably one of the most "race-conscious"). There is no reference to one race or ethnicity being automatically preferred over the other, compared to the reality of many ethno-states, where you're automatically going to be prioritized for being a native citizen. To the contrary, there are many laws which attempt to address the problems of minorities and immigrants, protect their rights and elevate their status.
 
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