Jones vs Khabib

Jones would definitely need PEDs against Khabib still. And he would also use a few eyepokes which the ref would not deduct any points.
 
Jones accomplished much more and beat higher quality opponents. He also juiced and acted like a douche his whole career...so in terms of who is a better champ? Khabib but who is the better/more successful fighter? Jones.
 
Jones would definitely need PEDs against Khabib still. And he would also use a few eyepokes which the ref would not deduct any points.

He would easily destroy Khabib with those long ass limbs.
 
Jones already benefits from having a HW frame at LHW and when the competition started becoming of similsr size and he lost he left the division...
 
This need to be a P4P fight for it to make sense, although we can take liberties somewhat and assume that this would go similarly to how DC vs Jones 1/2 went.

Like DC, Khabib would bring strength that belie his size as well as a serviceable stand-up to his game since his punches can still rattle the majority of his opponents if they ever connect.

Difference being that p4p wise, Khabib exudes way more pressure towards his opponents than DC ever could and has more durability and gas tank, so for Jones it'd be like facing a juiced version of DC pretty much.
 
Khabib cuts massive amounts of weight to avoid fighting men his own size. His dominance at lightweight is comparable to McGregor's at 145.

Edit: Point being, if Khabib and Jones were the same size, Khabib would be fighting at middleweight.

Yet you can't show a single image of Khabib dwarfing his opponents like Conor at 145, Till at 170 and Jones at 205, salty little hater.

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Now let's look at Jones feasting on midgets his claim to fame.


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Jones still fought better fighters , wins and losses mean shit when 20+ out of 29 of your fights are guys who cant even make it to the big leagues.
 
Yet you can't show a single image of Khabib dwarfing his opponents like Conor at 145, Till at 170 and Jones at 205, salty little hater.

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Now let's look at Jones feasting on midgets his claim to fame.


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Where was the hate?

He cuts a lot of weight to fight smaller men, and it helps his style as much as the reach advantage helped Conor at 145. That's facts.

Smaller doesn't just mean shorter or shorter-armed, my guy. Also facts... they're called 'weight' classes, not 'reach and height' classes.

He's roughly the size of Matt Hughes... and he looks every bit the walking skeleton on the scale as McGregor did. Come-on, man.

He's humble, and he's incredibly skilled, and even accounting for the weight-cutting, he's the best fighter ever at lightweight. No hate (other than my general dislike for cutting massive amounts of weight,) But in the P4P list/GOAT debate, you don't get to be number 1 by fighting smaller dudes, it's just that simple.
 
If Khabib was even close to Jones' size, say Jan or Weidman's size he'd ragdoll and submit Jones IMO - terrible match up for Jones. He doesn't have the power to put him away, slow him down, nor the ground game to stop getting brutalised or subbed once it inevitably gets there
 
Jon Jones loses to most if not all AKA guys
 
We can disagree over all time GOAT but Khabib is definitely current p4p best. For example no one still expects Silva to be on the current p4p list based on his last few years

Jones is on a very close decision streak since he's been off PEDs and shouldn't be current #1 p4p over khabib or Islam
 
not even dc could jon would outwrestle him
DC and Khabib are nowhere near similar as mma wrestlers. Like they both said, DC will try to take you down a few times, if it doesn't work he stops. Khabib will never stop trying to take you down, and is a much better grappler once he gets you down (DC is also a great grappler but Khabib is just the best ever)
 
Yes he should , his overall record is better, as in he has fought better competition. The last few fights should not overshadow his accomplishments unless he has actually lost.

Jones is on a slow-streak but nobody touches his UFC record , how many title fights has Khabib had?

Why aren't u arguing that Silva should be there too? He's not even on the top 15
 
He should be, I said that in an izzy thread even.

So when Buffer is announcing his next MW fight he should have #1 next to his name even if fighting against people he lost? Or does ur selective criteria only apply to the p4p list?
 
Jones beat wrestlers at their game, knocked out stand up specialists and subbed black belts... he has more title fights than kabib has top15 fights, the only reasons you would choose kabib above him can be emotional desires but no facts. its ridiculous that people place kabib into the top5 where he hasnt even the most LW title defenses, its pure emotional reasons they push him that high, nothing else, by no other tangible fact he is anywhere above those top guys

You're like the hitto of Khabib haters. In every Khabib thread.

Admit you love Khabib
 
Fuck all this GOAT talk. These two duke it out. Who wins? Does Khabib stand a chance?

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Khabib if he could weigh the same weight class as Jones but as the two men as they are now with the specific attributes they have in their prime, it has to be Jon.
 
Jones has beat lots of elite fighters and still has not lost. Silva has lost lots of fights but beat many elite fighters, the difference is obvious. Still how many championship bouts did khabib fight to earn his p4p status? Jones also has not lost a fight really and is still winning.

Thanks for proving my point by avoiding the question (of current vs all time)
 
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