Non-MMA Sports Betting Discussion -- 2021 and Beyond

The vast majority of my tennis bets are live ones, since there are a range of performances from players, and it's easier when you can see how they're looking on a particular day. However, I decided to play the Australian Open futures for the women's side, putting 0.3u on Sabalenka at +1000 and 0.3u on Swiatek at +1000.

These aren't exactly dark horses; Sabalenka is riding a 15-match winning streak, has won 3 tournaments, all hard courts, in a row, and is going to be 7th in the rankings after the Dubai results are counted. Swiatek has won the last Grand Slam tournament, the French Open, in dominant fashion and is only 19 years old.

I probably wouldn't be brave enough to play either at +500 or so, either, for the record, although there might still be value on one or both at those prices. For fun, let's look at some of the other future picks one can make;

Osaka +700

The biggest favorite, and understandably so. However, she has been unfocused and underperforming since backstabbing her then coach Sascha Bajin, who got her from 60-something in the world to #1 and 2 Grand Slams in a row in just a year. Since then, she has often performed more like a player circa 20th in the world rather than the #1 and didn't win a Grand Slam until the weak and underattended US Open last year.

At her best, she probably deserves to be the favorite, although I can still see huge hitters like Sabalenka and Swiatek defeating her. However, there is a good chance she will not be playing her best.

Serena Williams +800

HAHA. This is a name recognition pick and nothing more. She doesn't even have the fitness level to win 7 straight matches at a major, let alone her other flaws nowadays. Can't wait to fade the hell out of her when she plays a good opponent at the Australian, either.

Sofia Kenin +1000

Big fan of Kenin. In a sea of female players who are mentally weak and start screaming and getting hysterical on the court, utterly self-destructing, she is incredibly tough and fearless, playing her very best on the most crucial points and rising to the occasion at the biggest events. That makes her an attractive pre and live-bet, and she has made me a decent amount of money. Still, she is lacking a little strength and endurance, and it's not difficult to see a big hitter taking her out at some point.

Also, she is hard-countered by both Sabalenka and Swiatek, the two women I'm picking.

Bianca Andreescu +1200

My very first tennis bet was betting Andreescu at something like +260 to beat Serena Williams at the US Open, which she did, going on to win the tournament. At her best, she is excellent, and might be worth this price and even lower. Trouble is, she has been injured a long time and hasn't played since shortly after that US Open triumph in 2019.

What kind of shape and state is she in? It would be absolutely shocking if it were anything close to enough to win a slam.

Victoria Azarenka +1400

A great player who is still terrific on certain matches. However, her consistency isn't quite there anymore. Hard to see her winning 7 matches in a row and not flagging against some of the more dangerous opponents later in the tournament.

Karolina Pliskova +1600

HAHA. This goddamn bum lost me 2u at evens after losing the first set to No. 300 qualifier Anastasia Gasanova. She moves like a pregnant elephant on ice and her consistency comes and goes. Yes, she hits hard, but there is a reason she has never come close to winning a slam and never will. This is an equally bad bet as Serena.

Cori Gauff +2000

And this one might be as bad as those two! Another pure name recongition pick. One can reasonably debate her future potential, but right now, she is ranked 48th in the world and plays like it. Her serve was an absolute disaster last year and her playing style of getting tons of balls back and not going for much is predicated on trying to get her chances of beating a top 20 opponent to 50/50.

How in the world is she supposed to win a Grand Slam?

Dayana Yastremska +3300

A bold pick considering she is presently banned from tennis for steroid usage.

For reference, here is the totally natty Maria Sakkari (availabe at +5000!);

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/imge/81983/maria-sakkari-withdraws-from-seoul-open.jpg

Now here is the dirty steroid cheat Yastremska;

https://www.tennisnet.com/fileadmin/_processed_/1/a/csm_yastremska_adriatour_f69f86287f.jpg

Elise Mertens +4000

A straight-up better pick than many of the ones ahead of her, at least Yastremska and Gauff, and at much higher numbers. She needs a lot of things to go right for her to win, especially since she has bad match-ups against a number of the world elite (Azarenka crushes her again and again), but she has the consistency and durability to reliably beat the weaker players and get deep in a tournament. If you want to bet on more of a long shot, this might be it.
 
The vast majority of my tennis bets are live ones, since there are a range of performances from players, and it's easier when you can see how they're looking on a particular day. However, I decided to play the Australian Open futures for the women's side, putting 0.3u on Sabalenka at +1000 and 0.3u on Swiatek at +1000.

These aren't exactly dark horses; Sabalenka is riding a 15-match winning streak, has won 3 tournaments, all hard courts, in a row, and is going to be 7th in the rankings after the Dubai results are counted. Swiatek has won the last Grand Slam tournament, the French Open, in dominant fashion and is only 19 years old.

I probably wouldn't be brave enough to play either at +500 or so, either, for the record, although there might still be value on one or both at those prices. For fun, let's look at some of the other future picks one can make;

Osaka +700

The biggest favorite, and understandably so. However, she has been unfocused and underperforming since backstabbing her then coach Sascha Bajin, who got her from 60-something in the world to #1 and 2 Grand Slams in a row in just a year. Since then, she has often performed more like a player circa 20th in the world rather than the #1 and didn't win a Grand Slam until the weak and underattended US Open last year.

At her best, she probably deserves to be the favorite, although I can still see huge hitters like Sabalenka and Swiatek defeating her. However, there is a good chance she will not be playing her best.

Serena Williams +800

HAHA. This is a name recognition pick and nothing more. She doesn't even have the fitness level to win 7 straight matches at a major, let alone her other flaws nowadays. Can't wait to fade the hell out of her when she plays a good opponent at the Australian, either.

Sofia Kenin +1000

Big fan of Kenin. In a sea of female players who are mentally weak and start screaming and getting hysterical on the court, utterly self-destructing, she is incredibly tough and fearless, playing her very best on the most crucial points and rising to the occasion at the biggest events. That makes her an attractive pre and live-bet, and she has made me a decent amount of money. Still, she is lacking a little strength and endurance, and it's not difficult to see a big hitter taking her out at some point.

Also, she is hard-countered by both Sabalenka and Swiatek, the two women I'm picking.

Bianca Andreescu +1200

My very first tennis bet was betting Andreescu at something like +260 to beat Serena Williams at the US Open, which she did, going on to win the tournament. At her best, she is excellent, and might be worth this price and even lower. Trouble is, she has been injured a long time and hasn't played since shortly after that US Open triumph in 2019.

What kind of shape and state is she in? It would be absolutely shocking if it were anything close to enough to win a slam.

Victoria Azarenka +1400

A great player who is still terrific on certain matches. However, her consistency isn't quite there anymore. Hard to see her winning 7 matches in a row and not flagging against some of the more dangerous opponents later in the tournament.

Karolina Pliskova +1600

HAHA. This goddamn bum lost me 2u at evens after losing the first set to No. 300 qualifier Anastasia Gasanova. She moves like a pregnant elephant on ice and her consistency comes and goes. Yes, she hits hard, but there is a reason she has never come close to winning a slam and never will. This is an equally bad bet as Serena.

Cori Gauff +2000

And this one might be as bad as those two! Another pure name recongition pick. One can reasonably debate her future potential, but right now, she is ranked 48th in the world and plays like it. Her serve was an absolute disaster last year and her playing style of getting tons of balls back and not going for much is predicated on trying to get her chances of beating a top 20 opponent to 50/50.

How in the world is she supposed to win a Grand Slam?

Dayana Yastremska +3300

A bold pick considering she is presently banned from tennis for steroid usage.

For reference, here is the totally natty Maria Sakkari (availabe at +5000!);

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/imge/81983/maria-sakkari-withdraws-from-seoul-open.jpg

Now here is the dirty steroid cheat Yastremska;

https://www.tennisnet.com/fileadmin/_processed_/1/a/csm_yastremska_adriatour_f69f86287f.jpg

Elise Mertens +4000

A straight-up better pick than many of the ones ahead of her, at least Yastremska and Gauff, and at much higher numbers. She needs a lot of things to go right for her to win, especially since she has bad match-ups against a number of the world elite (Azarenka crushes her again and again), but she has the consistency and durability to reliably beat the weaker players and get deep in a tournament. If you want to bet on more of a long shot, this might be it.

Nice write-up man. I like to tune in to watch some tennis during the slams and degen a bet here and there. The female tournament always seems to be wide open. Like you said there's a severe lack of mental fortitude in the field. It makes live betting pretty interesting.
 
@Invictis

Rodgers and Packers offense was just too good today thankfully. As a die hard Packer fan of course I'm pumped about the win. But man...seeing what Rodgers is able to do with a great running game and a coach who has a clue about how to construct an offense---it also makes me think how many years of Rodgers were wasted stuck with McCarthy.

When you talk about all the aspects of quarterbacking, Rodgers might be the most talented guy ever to play. I'm talking arm strength, quick release, accuracy, mobility, pocket feel, and mental acuity and ability to process information quickly and act on it. And while Brady was coached by geniuses who were always innovating, Rodgers was stuck with McCarthy's unimaginative garbage offenses.
 
@Invictis

Rodgers and Packers offense was just too good today thankfully. As a die hard Packer fan of course I'm pumped about the win. But man...seeing what Rodgers is able to do with a great running game and a coach who has a clue about how to construct an offense---it also makes me think how many years of Rodgers were wasted stuck with McCarthy.

When you talk about all the aspects of quarterbacking, Rodgers might be the most talented guy ever to play. I'm talking arm strength, quick release, accuracy, mobility, pocket feel, and mental acuity and ability to process information quickly and act on it. And while Brady was coached by geniuses who were always innovating, Rodgers was stuck with McCarthy's unimaginative garbage offenses.

What's funny is I've been big on the Packers all season, I'm just a Rams homer.

I'll be all over them next week, and in the SB too. If they can put up 32 on the Rams, they can put up way more than that on KC/Buffalo(assuming the Bills win this game).
 
What's funny is I've been big on the Packers all season, I'm just a Rams homer.

I'll be all over them next week, and in the SB too. If they can put up 32 on the Rams, they can put up way more than that on KC/Buffalo(assuming the Bills win this game).

O/U if it's Packers/Chiefs SB is gonna be like 63 or something LOL.
 
This is what I have for the 12:05pm PST games. Good luck, fellas.

K.Porzingis points/. Under 21½ (NBA)
A.Hooper longest rec under 19½ (NFL)
 
This is what I have for the 12:05pm PST games. Good luck, fellas.

K.Porzingis points/. Under 21½ (NBA)
A.Hooper longest rec under 19½ (NFL)
K.Porzingis points/. Under 21½ (NBA) =
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A.Hooper longest rec under 19½ (NFL) =
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This is what I have so far for the Saints/Buccaneers game:

$200 on New Orleans Saints ML
$100 on New Orleans Saints -3
 
This is what I have so far for the Saints/Buccaneers game:

$200 on New Orleans Saints ML
$100 on New Orleans Saints -3
$560.00 $400.00 Pending 1/17/21 6:40pm Live In-Play Football 9307 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -6½ -140* vs New Orleans Saints

I had other bets going. I ended up losing -$172 instead of losing -$572.

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Here's what I have going for NBA:

Utah Jazz 2nd Half -1½ -110
• Parlay: Utah Jazz -123, Utah Jazz/Denver Nuggets Over 219
New Orleans Pelicans -140
Indiana Pacers +8½ -105
S.Ibaka points/. Under 13½ -140
R.Holmes points/. Over 13½ -115
 
$560.00 $400.00 Pending 1/17/21 6:40pm Live In-Play Football 9307 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -6½ -140* vs New Orleans Saints

I had other bets going. I ended up losing -$172 instead of losing -$572.

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Here's what I have going for NBA:

Utah Jazz 2nd Half -1½ -110
• Parlay: Utah Jazz -123, Utah Jazz/Denver Nuggets Over 219
New Orleans Pelicans -140
Indiana Pacers +8½ -105
S.Ibaka points/. Under 13½ -140
R.Holmes points/. Over 13½ -115
Utah Jazz 2nd Half -1½ -110
• Parlay: Utah Jazz -123, Utah Jazz/Denver Nuggets Over 219
New Orleans Pelicans -140
Indiana Pacers +8½ -105
S.Ibaka points/. Under 13½ -140 (didn't play)
R.Holmes points/. Over 13½ -115

I had some live bets as well. +$50 on the Pacers game, after deducting my losses.

I'm still tilted about the Saints game. The only touch downs the Buccaneers scored were from the Saints' turnovers... wtf... Could've had $300 more in my bankroll if they didn't fuck it up.

Now we get to see Tom Brady lose in Green Bay, where it will be super cold and snowing during the game. His old ass probably has arthritis and will cramp-up.
 
Utah Jazz 2nd Half -1½ -110
• Parlay: Utah Jazz -123, Utah Jazz/Denver Nuggets Over 219
New Orleans Pelicans -140
Indiana Pacers +8½ -105
S.Ibaka points/. Under 13½ -140 (didn't play)
R.Holmes points/. Over 13½ -115

I had some live bets as well. +$50 on the Pacers game, after deducting my losses.

I'm still tilted about the Saints game. The only touch downs the Buccaneers scored were from the Saints' turnovers... wtf... Could've had $300 more in my bankroll if they didn't fuck it up.

Now we get to see Tom Brady lose in Green Bay, where it will be super cold and snowing during the game. His old ass probably has arthritis and will cramp-up.

From your keyboard to God's ears about Packers/Bucs

Edit: God's eyes?

Whatever, you know what I mean.
 
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Big on the Bills +3, and Packers ML.

Can't hate those.

Some serious fans and NFL analysts think the Bills should be favored, or this is a pick 'em.

Mahomes is officially listed as questionable, but I have NO doubt he suits up and starts. He is a tough bastard.
 
From your keyboard to God's ears about Packers/Bucs

Edit: God's eyes?

Whatever, you know what I mean.
I have no idea about the remaining NFL games.

I lost a few hundred on the Saints the other day, as they turned the ball over 3 times and allowed the Buccaneers to score their only touch downs off of those turnovers...

Tom Brady is getting his way once again.
 
Bills +3
Allen and Mahomes to get 250 passing yards each -138
Both team to get at least 2 tds and 1 fg each -177
 
I have no idea about the remaining NFL games.

I lost a few hundred on the Saints the other day, as they turned the ball over 3 times and allowed the Buccaneers to score their only touch downs off of those turnovers...

Tom Brady is getting his way once again.

I think the game Sunday comes down to one thing: Can the Bucs stop the Packers run game. Rodgers simply doesn't turn the ball over. He has the best TD to INT ratio and QB rating in NFL history by a MILE. And it's even better at home. He will however take sacks when things aren't open and his protection breaks down. He makes big plays when he gets off schedule, but he'll also take sacks because he doesn't want to throw the ball away. If the Packers have any success at all running the ball, The Bucs D will get carved like the Rams D did (and the Rams had the best D in the league). But, if the Bucs D stuffs the run and there are a lot of 2nd at 8's or 3rd and 6's, they can hang in there.

Brady looked...okay. The Bucs need some kind of a running game too. Packers run D was terrible early in the year but got better and better as the year went on. It's cold up here too, that's gonna help the Packers obviously. Brady is used to bad weather but he's 43 years old.

I think and hope the Packers get it done. But...it's still Brady and it's still the playoffs.
 
Locked in the Nets to win the East right after they got harden at +200 hopefully they can all play together kyrie can be an idiot
 
Locked in the Nets to win the East right after they got harden at +200 hopefully they can all play together kyrie can be an idiot

He's got pouting brat disease. Harden does have a variant of it, as well.

If they play their roles, it's an easy Eastern Conference crown and a very competitive Finals, and maybe a win.
If they don't, it's an embarrassing shit show.
 
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