Television WANDAVISION Discussion (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen the whole season of WANDAVISION, how would you rate it?


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Brilliant performances from Olsen, Bettany and Hahn let down by piss-poor writing in the finale. "Ralph Bouhner" was just the writers giving the middle finger to the fans,

"Lolz, it wasn't an X Men Multiverse Easter egg, it was just a dick joke, losers!":rolleyes:

Also, Monica telling Wanda,

"They will never know what you sacrificed for them"

Made me fucking cringe. Giving up your non-existent family and Stepford Wives life you've created does not absolve you from mind-raping an entire town for so long the people actually beg you to either let them go or let them die. Psychiatrists are going to put their kids through collage just from all the citizens of Westview paying for long term therapy. Agatha was right,

"Heroes don't torture people, Wanda".

I really hope Marvel has the balls to make Wanda the Big Bad of Multiverse of Madness. By all means redeem her at the end, but until then show her as the mentally ill, selfish, incredibly dangerous woman she is.

Fuck Westview

I’d kill them all twice to get Olsen back in that Halloween getup
 
But she had to give up her imaginary friends, so it all balances out;)

Seriously, though: Hayward was a prick and a coward, but he was right to regard Wanda as a potentially catastrophic threat to America, if not the entire world.

unliked so I could relike
 
stupid question but did white Vision become real Vision when he had that conversation?
Im having a hard time remembering, but i thought the point of forwarding the memories was that wanda would have her real vision back. But...all i remember is him flying away.


So, im sure it was answered, but can someone explain the ending to me? Wanda is spazzing out like Strange did in infinity war, but in seclusion.
 
Im having a hard time remembering, but i thought the point of forwarding the memories was that wanda would have her real vision back. But...all i remember is him flying away.


So, im sure it was answered, but can someone explain the ending to me? Wanda is spazzing out like Strange did in infinity war, but in seclusion.

Wanda was using the same technique of Astral Projection to study the Dark Hold that Strange used when training in Kamar Taj under the Ancient One to read the forbidden books he stole from Wong's library. The difference is that Strange could only do this while his physical body was asleep. Wanda was able to use her Astral Body to read the Dark Hold while fully awake and moving around.

While studying the Dark Hold, Wanda hears her, "children" crying for help, which implies they didn't die with her Vision when she took down the Hex. Of course, this could be a trick to manipulate Wanda into causing further damage to the Multiverse by using her powers to find Billy and Tommy.
 
I don’t want them Nerfing Strange just to showcase Wanda.

I also liked the way AoS used the darkhold compared to the MCU. Way better story telling.

I miss AoS.
 
I hope they bring back Hayward in the future and Monica, Woo and Darcy are like “no, it can’t be! You went to jail” and he responds “yeah, but I didn’t do anything wrong except be mean to you”

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Binged the series over the weekend. I liked it overall, my favorite parts were actually the first 3 episodes that were just straight homages to classic sitcoms. I thought the magic show bit was genuinely entertaining and funny. I feel like I would have enjoyed it more if they had gone another episode or two before doing the big reveal about what was actually happening.

I freaked when Evan Peters showed up as Quicksilver, and had high hopes for what that was hinting at. Turned out to just be a big set up for a dick joke. Whatever.

The addition as Agatha as an antagonist was unnecessary, and felt forced so there could be a big battle at the end.

The finale was weak, and I'm hoping they better address the consequences of Wanda's actions in later movies or shows. At least it's handled somewhat better than what WW84 did with Chris Pine taking over some random dude's body, where it wasn't even brought up how fucked up that was.

Overall, maybe a 6.5 or 7/10. If they had kept the feeling of the first few episodes going and it hadn't devolved into a big cgi fight at the end, could have easily been an 8/10 or higher.
 
I just finished it.

Pros:

This was very fun and entertaining. I have to give this series a 10/10 in terms of creativity! Even the name alone was extremely creative. The sitcom episodes throughout each decade were amazing and so well done. They did such a terrific job, and had you wondering "what the hell is going on??" for a while. The way they tied it into the main storyline was nothing short of amazing!

Elizabeth Olson and Paul Bettany's acting were so on point and they had great synergy. Introducing
Evan Peters as Quiksilver
was a tremendous inside joke and nod to the fans. I absolutely LOVED that reveal. Well done.


Cons:

- I personally HATE omnipotent characters. HATE. So Wanda is basically God more or less. Can create realities, ressurect the dead, defeat any villain (she apparently almost beat Thanos, but that's neither here nor there). The best characters have limited powers and struggles, they aren't able to snap everything out of place.

- Wanda was a villain, and they didn't treat her like one. Yea, I know she's one of the good guys from our franchise so we must be rooting for her. But Wanda held an entire town of people hostage; prisoners in their own bodies which realistically would lead to years of therapy.

The show brought on a team of misfits that were fighting against the S.W.O.R.D. director. They made him seem like the bad guy for wanting to stop a villain about as powerful as (if not more than) Thanos. The show ends with Monica Rambeau saying something like "I don't blame you girl," Wanda doesn't apologize to any of the citizens, and Director Hayward gets arrested... for some odd reason. <23>

On a separate note, there also seemed to be a bash the white guy, justice porn theme in there. With a sista, an Asian guy, and a p*ssyhat march SJW (played by Kat Dennings) working together to take down the director.

- The show didn't seem to know how to end it. When I got to 20 minutes left, I knew they had to leave room for their 15 minutes of credits and knew that they had to end it quickly.

What happened to the other vision?

Wtf did Wanda mean by "tHaNkS fOr ChOoSiNg mE aS yOuR mOm"?

Wanda chose to subject the other witch to a crule, hell-like, eternal torture. Isn't Westview restored and the fictional town eradicated? So how is she gonna remain in the sitcom world if the sitcom world no longer exists? Wth show?

What does Wanda do with her life now?

It seemed a bit inconclusive.

Overall entertaining show. The mini-episodes in the full episodes were a bit fun; I like TV shows within TV shows.


My $0.02

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Lol they were arresting the army guy and I'm like umm she kidnapped and tortured thousands of people...

But she had to give up her imaginary friends, so it all balances out;)

Seriously, though: Hayward was a prick and a coward, but he was right to regard Wanda as a potentially catastrophic threat to America, if not the entire world.

I’m still fuzzy on what Hayward did which caused him to be arrested for? He already had clearance to try and reboot vision. The whole “you’ll never get away with this” clearly it was his mission the whole time. Firing a gun at imaginary kids? Just fell to pieces at the end.

Okay, glad to see that I wasn't the only one who found this stupid.
 
Well, we now know why this show collapsed into a heaping pile of shit in its final episodes:
‘WandaVision’ Team Cut Doctor Strange from Finale to Avoid ‘White Guy’ Saving the Day

While every other major superhero's absence could be explained, suddenly this makes sense of the one that couldn't by even the most creatively acrobatic excuses. Can't have our greatest heroes being heroes, after all. It's not like that's the entire fucking point of comic book culture.
 
Well, we now know why this show collapsed into a heaping pile of shit in its final episodes:
‘WandaVision’ Team Cut Doctor Strange from Finale to Avoid ‘White Guy’ Saving the Day

While every other major superhero's absence could be explained, suddenly this makes sense of the one that couldn't by even the most creatively acrobatic excuses. Can't have our greatest heroes being heroes, after all. It's not like that's the entire fucking point of comic book culture.

Does it matter though? Folks would have bitched had they put him in as well. Putting Dr. Strange in would have literally killed the series from episode one. You really think the Sorcerer Supreme wouldn't have known what was going on? The Ancient One knew about Steven Strange before he ever showed up to be a sorcerer as per her conversation with the Hulk. Dr. Strange was literally toying with Loki. Him being included in the mix and NOT fixing the problem is illogical.

More than likely, Dr. Strange knew the whole time. Did his going to the future looking for possible outcomes again, and didn't see a reason to intervene, because doing so would have worse implications. Him knowing the possible futures is the "Golden Loophole" of the MCU.
 
Gave the show a 7/10. It's solid but I don't think it will be in my top 10 of things Marvel has done. But I have to give it props for being unique and different even if it doesn't really stick the landing some of the time.
 
Does it matter though? Folks would have bitched had they put him in as well.
That's not something you get to take for granted. The reason for their choice not to include him is the most significant knowledge gained because it was that same mindset which contributed to all the terrible decisions we did see resulting in the show's Hindenburg finale.
 
That's not something you get to take for granted. The reason for their choice not to include him is the most significant knowledge gained because it was that same mindset which contributed to all that terrible decisions we did see resulting in the show's Hindenburg finale.

Woke and Broke are not in Marvel's dictionary. And much the same that Lucasfilm could care less about my opinion on the sequel trilogy, Marvel isn't gonna sweat yours when there is a hundred more fans that did enjoy the ending to WandaVision.

All we can do is come to the internets and bitch about it.
 
Woke and Broke are not in Marvel's dictionary. And much the same that Lucasfilm could care less about my opinion on the sequel trilogy, Marvel isn't gonna sweat yours when there is a hundred more fans that did enjoy the ending to WandaVision.

All we can do is come to the internets and bitch about it.

It's just not what you'd expect to hear from Kevin Feige. Really lame reason to drop what sounds like such a cool moment in the finale.

When he says Strange showing up in a cameo would take too much away from Wanda, it just gives me flashbacks of "We couldn't have Luke in Episode VII because he would take the spotlight away from the other characters". Just making lame excuses. A good writer can find a way to make it work.
 
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