Opinion If woke liberal Hollywood bothers you so much, you need to support the alternatives.

[uppercutbus]

What if "conservative movies" sucks too? People want stop receive political colored crap, not change color of it

Problem of people like you is think that only solution against Retard Team A is to join Retard Team B

I consider modern western leftism (EU and USA) the greatest current threat to the western future, but i don't consider myself a rightwing neither

You see headlines like 'Star Wars' Unveils 'Trans Non-Binary Jedi Knights' and they think media was always woke like this. You got Netflix Cuties and politically charged comic decisions and they formulate an argument that they haven't lost their way but they have always been like this and you can't complain about the wokeness and watch something else. I also like the warped kafka trap about how you are against poc in Hollywood and frame everything around that. It's all troll gotcha arguments lol.

 

[gluehuffer1776]

 

[Milton_Gracie]

What channel?

And if you read the comics, the heroes are working for acceptance and to live on an equal footing in peace with regular humans. The bad guys are either 1) humans who want to eradicate or subjugate mutants or 2) mutants who want to eradicate or subjugate humans. The problem with modern leftism is that they are riding the pendulum past equality to flipping roles.

Or it is a misguided and condescending attempt from a SJW to experience a lifetime of ethnicity in a single day so that she, who is better equipped, can then solve all and sundry problems of said ethnicity.

On demand. Look though documentaries. It’s called something like “Chris Claremont’s Xmen”

 

[Bacco]

You see headlines like 'Star Wars' Unveils 'Trans Non-Binary Jedi Knights' and they think media was always woke like this. You got Netflix Cuties and politically charged comic decisions and they formulate an argument that they haven't lost their way but they have always been like this and you can't complain about the wokeness and watch something else. I also like the warped kafka trap about how you are against poc in Hollywood and frame everything around that. It's all troll gotcha arguments lol.

I does'nt bother me nor find it fascinating
I have netflix as only streaming platform and for what i pay it (8€ month iirc) i get enough in return
Them trying to push woke shit at all cost it's pathetic/embarassing but mirror what americans have let USA become, and lucky doesn't represent a problem for mine at the moment... i mean woke EU is a problem, but can't blame it on netflix lol

At the moment i can find still plenty of non heavy politicized stuff that's worth the price, the moment they will focus on propaganda only i will find another platform for my entertainment

As we speak biggest crime Netflix did to me is produce their own weak fake anime over just buy fuckton more of good anime movies/series

 

[MacGregor]

Need film studios not associated with Hollywood if people expect good films to be the norm.

 

[Squarechoke]

Need film studios not associated with Hollywood if people expect good films to be the norm.

The world is full of such studios. You generally won't avoid political films by looking elsewhere either though, which should be obvious since fiction has been made to state messages on society far longer than film has existed as a medium.

 

[grimballer]

What channel?

And if you read the comics, the heroes are working for acceptance and to live on an equal footing in peace with regular humans. The bad guys are either 1) humans who want to eradicate or subjugate mutants or 2) mutants who want to eradicate or subjugate humans. The problem with modern leftism is that they are riding the pendulum past equality to flipping roles.

Or it is a misguided and condescending attempt from a SJW to experience a lifetime of ethnicity in a single day so that she, who is better equipped, can then solve all and sundry problems of said ethnicity.

very good post

1. that lois lane stunt was nothing more than blackploiation of the 70s, but instead introducing a black character they just had smug liberal wear black face instead.

2. x men objective is not to be radical disruptors and try to completely change the system in place by any means necessary (including violence). thats what brotherhood of mutants tries to achieve... x men want to be accepted in society, so if anything they would be considered more moderate.

now that being said all this is pointless. one can surely enjoy a show/movie without being completely indoctrinated.

a person can watch american history x, be sympathetic to the character without supporting his cause.

same goes for matrix, braveheart, terminator, rambo, goodfellas....

 

[Mila is My World]

LOL. Yet ironically, you're the loser that made a thread saying if you don't like Leftist propaganda to instead watch right wing propaganda, as if you're such a simple minded individual that you can't think logically and are soundly unintelligent.

Don't worry, you'll get your dubs back soon enough and look like me.

Here's the difference for those too simple minded to understand like yourself.

Complaining about hollywood on a karate forum is a bunch of degrees less effective than complaining about whiny right wingers who frequent the karate forum on the the karate fourm.

Hence why you're spending time responding to me, but google and disney aren't responding to you.

But if you want to type in caps lock maybe you'll catch the attention of an MSNBC watcher, probably the best you can hope for right now.

 

[Mila is My World]

Problem of people like you is think that only solution against Retard Team A is to join Retard Team B

You're part of Retard Team B, you're just too dumb or closeted to realise it.

I don't care what he calls himself. If you consume Tim Pool and Dave Rubin content you are right wing, deal with it.

 

[Mila is My World]

You had double yellows? You're a loser bro.

Put down the rocks son, that glass house you're in wont hold up to them.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I'm losing track of how many threads we have complaining about Disney/Marvel/Hollywood and it's bias to left leaning politics. And that's all these threads are doing: complaining. Like a bunch of soccer moms being outraged on facebook about a sexy music video airing in the daytime, none of you are changing shit, you're making a small amount of noise on the corner of the internet.

It's time to put up or shut up. Start acting like a capitalist and vote with your god damn wallet. If you are truly sick of hollywood then you need to stop spending money to see big liberal hollywood movies, you need to stop subscribing to streaming services (how many of you actually cancelled disney+ when Gina got fired?). And you also need to stop spending precious hours of your day complaining about liberal movies or watching content creators who complain about liberal movies, because its FREE PRESS for the films you want to see less of.

There are conservative movies out there, but if you don't buy and support the content they put out then they will remain a niche, you need to support what you want to see more of. Below are some suggestions to get you started.

Feel free to add your own suggestions. Stop bitching about problems, and find solutions.

I dont want to say it bothers me, but when I'm watching a police drama and a guy gets shot while ignoring officers and reaching in his pocket for a cell phone and the police department on the show is talking about it being a bad shooting - I'm annoyed as hell and it's clearly an agenda.

 

[1pedestrian]

Mel Gibson's masterpiece:

Highly recommended.

 

[Milton_Gracie]

Mel Gibson's masterpiece:

Highly recommended.

Undoubtedly one of the finest films ever released by Disney

 

[woodguyatl]

Why should I pick a decade :
Jurassic Park? Terminator 2? The Godfather? Fargo? Collateral?
Twelve Angry Men? Donnie Brasco? Citizen Kane?
My point is : there is no particular UNDERLINED political message in any of these films yet they were blockbusters and at least somewhat critically acclaimed.
The “en masse” absolute benchmark of stupidity we are encountering in the post-2012 Hollywood is a totally different story than ever before (only comparable example is maybe the 50’s even films from that era were not festering with ham-handed 1st degree politics)
The mega trend of moral posturing and virtue signaling and celebrities acting like they’re better than the rest of us by saying that they’re saving the world has certainly always been present in Hollywood but not like it is today, like it is all of a sudden the only true dogma that cuts through the production, casting and writing.

Every war film before 1970 was pretty ham-handed politics. Then came Apocalypse Now and the Deer Hunter with exactly the opposite messages. Later came movies like Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, Do the Right Thing, Dallas Buyers Club, Erin Brokovich, Philadelphia, Billy Elliot, Slumdog Millionaire, Boys 'n the Hood and many, many more. All are mostly pre-2000 well-regarded movies with hit you over the head political messages that bucked the mainstream feelings of the time.

 

[Eusung]

You're part of Retard Team B, you're just too dumb or closeted to realise it.

I don't care what he calls himself. If you consume Tim Pool and Dave Rubin content you are right wing, deal with it.

Oh the horror!

 

[Bacco]

You're part of Retard Team B, you're just too dumb or closeted to realise it.

I don't care what he calls himself. If you consume Tim Pool and Dave Rubin content you are right wing, deal with it.

Left or Right is something that does'nt exist in nature
Are abstract bullshit concepts invented by people to have easier time manipulate other people

You are trying to project your own limits on me, i don't need a "Team" to know what i think about things

Politicians wants people to stop think with their own head and -successfully- sold a model where you have to buy a box, a bundle of ideas to stick with

Many different issues where you're supposed to think the same as others that picked same box
Imagine a test where you have 30 questions about very very different issues and you can answer A or B
Politics offered people to don't waste time and effort to fill it: two version of that test already printed full filled, one all A and one all B
It's unlikely without politics you (and thousands others) left free to chose will have exactly same view on that many issues, and still the pre-filled paper say you think all the same

Wich is bullshit, but best way to control people. When you know what people believe and want, you know what to promise them to manipulate masses. Synthesized in 2 giant options.

Current america is perfect incarnation of this, with A promising hippie paradise with free shit for all no police or prisons and B hinting straight time travel back to good old 50s when things were better and whiter

Neither options are realistic in 2021 america (i don't even care about fair or moral, even just doable), but is not important because as long people are dumb enough to buy one of the 2 boxes and invest themselves on that group of schematized bullshit to watch the world, they will be dumb enough to not realize it and vote the team.
Because is not about ideals or views, is about power. For power you need votes

Well, on reality for power you need money and allies. The true powerful ones are ever powerful and fine no matter if current government is A or B
If anything you have factions of powerful ones scheming against each other to gain upper hand on shit that interest them
But let's say votes buy order (or at least controlled chaos).
Because with votes and elections there's the semblance of democracy, and people are ok with it and keep work and pay taxes

If everybody think with his own head, you will have fuckton of different takes and win millions of votes with same identical bullshit promise become impossible

I could list stuff where i think left is best path, stuff where right is best path, stuff where both suck dicks... and i will do, if you ask to "proof" it, but wat's the point?

 

[therealdope]

What if Christian right propaganda isn't your cup of tea? What is the alternative then?

 

[Milton_Gracie]

What if Christian right propaganda isn't your cup of tea? What is the alternative then?

Vivid Entertainment. They are based in Hollywood but are not really Hollywood

 

[therealdope]

Vivid Entertainment. They are based in Hollywood but are not really Hollywood

let me check that out. I'll be back in .... never.

 

[SanchoMF]

Every war film before 1970 was pretty ham-handed politics. Then came Apocalypse Now and the Deer Hunter with exactly the opposite messages. Later came movies like Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, Do the Right Thing, Dallas Buyers Club, Erin Brokovich, Philadelphia, Billy Elliot, Slumdog Millionaire, Boys 'n the Hood and many, many more. All are mostly pre-2000 well-regarded movies with hit you over the head political messages that bucked the mainstream feelings of the time.

Sure but the main difference with your examples is that these movies are meant to be political, whereas today's approach is mainly to take a movie or a franchise and make it political without it being so in the beginning and plastering on today's chef's special woke shit won't make them any better quite the contrary, like that purple haired 3rd wave feminist bitch character from of the latest Star Wars went out to prove.
I've seen the movies you mention with some of them being really good and I'm not bothered by the politics they portray since they are actually pretty well written, casted, produced and executed movies but they're not good movies because they're about a certain subject ; they're good movies because they are that well-made, well-acted etc.
Let's not pretend we're all activists.