Elections Wisconsin Officially Launches Audit of 2020 Election

TheRealHNIC said:
This is all political theater to keep the Trump supporters engaged and invested in the Rep vs Dem narrative. Its all nonsense. The election is not being overturned no matter what they find.

And Trump is most likely playing along. You're government doesn't represent you in anyway or on any level. Time for Americans to face the harsh truth.
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Sadly you are right. Even if fraud is found they won’t remove Biden and the Trump did nothing to drain the swamp.
 
blaseblah said:
Find me anything remotely close to Trump doing this:
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You can pretend that Hillary's concession was legit, and she gracefully rode off into the night in full support of the American democracy that did not choose her, but we both know that didn't happen, and that you're full of shit.
 
HereticBD said:
You can pretend that Hillary's concession was legit, and she gracefully rode off into the night in full support of the American democracy that did not choose her, but we both know that didn't happen, and that you're full of shit.
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Wow look at this well reasoned position you have that's totally not the result of you ignoring the last 4 years.
 
ShadBo said:
Appeals to common sense are usually made by people without the relevant education, experience, or expertise on the subject they're talking out of their ass about.

Common sense is not actually common because everyone has a different interpretation of what sense is, especially those who lack the three Es I just mentioned.

The way this is supposed to work is that before any action is taken, there has to be some objectively verifiable evidence that action is necessary.

Get back to me when you have evidence and not empty appeals to common sense. Otherwise it's all babies.
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The new, or more widely used methods which day intellectually honest person would admit make fraud easier are enough for audits to ensure integrity.

You guys are really weird about this; seriously close to as weird as somebody who claims to have evidence they do not have.

You just spent 3.5 fkn years screeching about how “the elections were hacked.” Those exact words. My god lmao
 
saddest people alive. I'd say we should pity them, if only they weren't weaponizing their insecurity and inferiority complex in a pitiful attempt to make everyone feel as shitty as they do
 
SakurabasEar said:
Oh come on, how much do you think this costs really? And if it'll help show people there wasent election fraud then why not. I dont for the record buy into this ether, but if they want an audit so be it.
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I have several problems with this. Firstly, states have audit and recount procedures already, and those were followed. I’m not interested in opening this Pandora’s box where bizarre “audits” have to be done at taxpayer expense every time some party doesn’t like the election result.
My second big problem is what we see in AZ: the company doing this supposed audit has no experience with elections or election audits, they have a clear, biased agenda, and they’ve made multiple huge mistakes while doing this audit because they have no idea wtf they’re doing. These mistakes do very serious damage to our system of elections and faith in our elections.
Even worse is that doing these “audits” wont resolve the complaints. The people pushing for them are wackjob conspiracy theorists. They’ll never be satisfied, and we saw it time and time again: false claims about laws being violated, false claims about mail-in ballots, false claims about Sharpies, or poll workers, or ballot dumps, or watermarks, or Dominion, or....
It goes on and on. Debunk one conspiracy theory and they’ll replace it with another. We are not obligated to humor them.
 
BFoe said:
The people pushing for them are wackjob conspiracy theorists. They’ll never be satisfied, and we saw it time and time again: false claims about laws being violated, false claims Russia, false claims about Ukraine...
It goes on and on. Debunk one conspiracy theory and they’ll replace it with another. We are not obligated to humor them.
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FTFY
 
shankmcgank said:
FTFY
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Keep deflecting.
We know Trump broke laws re: Ukraine and Russia. If conservatives in this country had a functioning vertebrae, we could’ve (and we should’ve) convicted and removed him the first time he attacked the 2020 election, and spared the country all of the bullshit we went through. In fact, we are still going through it, in part because of people like you who support this baseless nonsense.
 
BFoe said:
I have several problems with this. Firstly, states have audit and recount procedures already, and those were followed. I’m not interested in opening this Pandora’s box where bizarre “audits” have to be done at taxpayer expense every time some party doesn’t like the election result.
My second big problem is what we see in AZ: the company doing this supposed audit has no experience with elections or election audits, they have a clear, biased agenda, and they’ve made multiple huge mistakes while doing this audit because they have no idea wtf they’re doing. These mistakes do very serious damage to our system of elections and faith in our elections.
Even worse is that doing these “audits” wont resolve the complaints. The people pushing for them are wackjob conspiracy theorists. They’ll never be satisfied, and we saw it time and time again: false claims about laws being violated, false claims about mail-in ballots, false claims about Sharpies, or poll workers, or ballot dumps, or watermarks, or Dominion, or....
It goes on and on. Debunk one conspiracy theory and they’ll replace it with another. We are not obligated to humor them.
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I agree that there will always be people that won't let go. Trust me i call out people on my side for subscribing to this bullshit all the time. I find it ridiculous in terms of staunch "fraud" having stole the election.

But theres also a large amount of seemingly normal people who still have questions about the election. I don't think theres anything wrong with that as it was certainly a unique election.

Whatever procedures were in place after the election were also poorly followed, as apprantly some of these places have already got rid of boxes of votes or deleted systems etc.
 
Yeah, nobody wants to hear Democrats, or anybody on the Left, complain about an investigation. Talk about a complete lack of awareness.

UFCUCF said:
Nope. The very next day, Wednesday Nov. 9, 2016, Hillary formally conceded the election and stated “we must accept the result...” She also said that Trump deserved an open mind and chance to lead. A few days later Omaha had Trump to the White House.

So, if essentially the same when did Trump concede the election and urge his supporters to accept the results? When did Trump say we owe Biden an open mind to lead?
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And almost immediately proclaimed herself as part of the "Resistance."
 
Trump is no longer our president. Whether we are better off, that's for yall to decide.
 
Sohei said:
Then stop pretending to be a first world country and admit you're really just a third world failed state zhit hole.
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Of course we are. Not even North Korea would have the balls to mail out ballots indiscriminately and pull them out of 24 hr drop boxes to count in the dead of night after kicking out poll watchers, and surprise, the candidate the administrative state wanted who's 80 with dementia just happened to be the most popular candidate in presidential history. We also have state run media that spikes negative stories against their party, we have tent cities and human shit all over CA, CA also has the lowest literacy rates and the highest income inequality in the country, our lawmakers are somehow allowed to invest in the businesses they're supposed to regulate, and magically their investments outperform the market by 40%, the entire entertainment industry has to be approved by our totalitarian party, our money's losing value, we can't control our borders, we just had a year of forced business closures. At least 3rd world countries know they're shitholes.
 
nostradumbass said:
Of course we are. Not even North Korea would have the balls to mail out ballots indiscriminately and pull them out of 24 hr drop boxes to count in the dead of night after kicking out poll watchers, and surprise, the candidate the administrative state wanted who's 80 with dementia just happened to be the most popular candidate in presidential history. We also have state run media that spikes negative stories against their party, we have tent cities and human shit all over CA, CA also has the lowest literacy rates and the highest income inequality in the country, our lawmakers are somehow allowed to invest in the businesses they're supposed to regulate, and magically their investments outperform the market by 40%, the entire entertainment industry has to be approved by our totalitarian party, our money's losing value, we can't control our borders, we just had a year of forced business closures. At least 3rd world countries know they're shitholes.
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"kicking out Poll watchers" ? Like when?
 
I don't think the republican party controls the entertainment industry. Otherwise that insane rant is spot on!
 
Peter_Panner said:
This is despite the fact that a transparent audit is likely to restore some trust in a system
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So if the audit finds that there were just a few user errors at most, and that the election was not stolen and that there was no widespread voter fraud:

Will you accept the results of the audit? Even if it confirms what the rest of us know and you’ll stop crying about the election because it was a fair and truthful one?

Bevause if not, then there’s no point, as your trust will never be restored unless they fabricate evidence that Trump won.
 
Whippy McGee said:
"Democrats voted against the measure unanimously, warning that an audit will erode trust in the system."

They not only are corrupt with this claim, but they think everyone is stupid too.

Who knows? Let them check it out. Audits tell us if things were accurate and deliver trust.
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Same question to you tho. Will you accept the results of the audit, that you were wrong and misled about voter fraud claims all this time, if the audit doesn’t turn up any widespread voter fraud?

Or will you keep believing there must be something out there, they just need to keep looking.
 
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