International [U.S COVID Vaccine News] CDC to Lift COVID-19 Testing Requirement for international Travelers

[Madmick]

Will read the cdc links when I get to the PC on monday. Your blind faith is adorable.

Stay out of this thread if you're going to deliberately spread misinformation.

 

[Officer Rick]

But I thought according to Ted Cruz the fake pandemic was supposed to end the day after inauguration?? What happened to all the chuds saying it's a plandemic? Less than 1% etc ... No worse than the flu.. only kills the obese etc etc .

 

[DespicablePeep]

Stay out of this thread if you're going to deliberately spread misinformation.

Adress the Israel numbers! I did not spread misinformation and I'm not the one losing my temper over a simple vaccine conversations. I expected you to act like a grown men but its clear with your history you can't

Have a nice weekend

 

[Madmick]

Adress the Israel numbers! I did not spread misinformation and I'm not the one losing my temper over a simple vaccine conversations. I expected you to act like a grown men but its clear with your history you can't

Have a nice weekend

You just tried bluffing by asserting that Fauci didn't provide numbers, when he has, he has constantly cited the bodies like the CDC who have provided these numbers. Again, this will not be tolerated in this thread. Don't whine to me.

 

[DespicablePeep]

You just tried bluffing by asserting that Fauci didn't provide numbers, when he has, he has constantly cited the bodies like the CDC who have provided these numbers. Again, this will not be tolerated in this thread. Don't whine to me.

Breakthrough infections by the numbers
We don't know how many mild or asymptomatic breakthrough COVID-19 infections there are in the U.S. The CDC stopped counting in May.

The CDC still counts hospitalizations and deaths from breakthrough infections. The agency said it made this transition to "help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance."

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/rare-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-preventable-how-to-stop/37083813

That is what I was referring to

I'm not whining, just trying to have a conversation without attacks. This does not explain the difference in outbreak cases between Israel and US. And if people with mild symptoms are not being counted are they still infecting others?

If people can't question what you perceive as absolutely true than why have an open thread? I see anti-vaxxers being unreasonable all the time while the other side is no better, constantly mocking people that are afraid of a vaccine, now the fault is of the people who did not take the vaccine.

I'm not breaking any rules and I'm providing links, quit making threats based on your moderator status.

 

[Madmick]

Breakthrough infections by the numbers
We don't know how many mild or asymptomatic breakthrough COVID-19 infections there are in the U.S. The CDC stopped counting in May.

The CDC still counts hospitalizations and deaths from breakthrough infections. The agency said it made this transition to "help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance."

No, that's not what you're talking about. You asserted they hadn't been collecting any information on confirmed cases of hospitalized/dying patients. Because that's who I specifically mentioned with the 98%+ and 99%+ figures for the past three months.

You're scrambling to justify your bluff. Again, deliberately posting misinformation in this thread will not be tolerated. Pay attention, or slink off to the protest/partisan threads that are littered with tinfoil and ascientific biases. That's more your speed.

 

[nostradumbass]

What percentage of the ICU beds are from covid patients? The deaths are higher than they were after 4th of July, but still a fraction of what they were all last year and even just a few months ago.

It’s probably both. Aren’t the hotspots all in middle America?

Mississippi has the highest black population of any state in the country, so both could be true.

 

[Arkain2K]

What percentage of the ICU beds are from covid patients?

Here's the Top 5:

Missouri: 29.8%
Arkansas: 27.4%
Nevada: 24.1%
Florida: 22.5%
Mississippi: 22.3

There in-lies the problem: it's still sunny and warm and yet the numbers are already growing fast in certain regions. The same country that gave the world the best tools to reduce Covid hospitalization and deaths still have places that are in real danger of repeating last year's nightmarish scenario again this coming Fall/Winter, for absolutely no good reason whatsoever.

We are still doing quite well overall as a nation thanks to the majority of our countrymen having common sense (especially comparing to the unfortunate countries still waiting for their vaccines shipment), but just as the doctors warned us months ago, the emerging "two Americas" is quite real as the gulf between each State's immunization rates grew wider, and the ones making the headlines come as a shock to absolutely no one.

Some of those scraping at the bottom half of the immunization barrel (most notably Missouri/Arkansas/Mississippi) are already being hammered hard even though it's only July, while this surge is barely registered on the radar in the States that have been working hard these past months to achieve regional Herd Immunity, neither are a surprise to anyone.

When these numbers continue to rise for weeks/months to come, and history repeats itself on a high crescendo after the still-unvaccinated people sneezed on each other at this year's holidays gatherings, absolute no one is going to be surprised at what comes next, except may be for those who will be having regrets about their poor life choices as they're being hooked into ventilators, months after they've been given the mean to avoid it.

Covid Hospitalizations Tick Up Across U.S. Due To Delta Variant — These 17 States Are Leading The Way
By Joe Walsh | Jul 24, 2021

The number of Americans hospitalized with Covid-19 jumped nearly 60% in the last week, as the coronavirus’ more infectious Delta variant fuels a new wave of infections — and admissions to intensive care units have spiked in a few hard-hit states.

Missouri leads the rest of the country with 29.8% of statewide ICU beds taken up by Covid-19 patients, as the Delta variant sweeps through cities like Springfield, pushing up coronavirus infections and forcing hospitals to expand capacity.

Neighboring Arkansas is also having coronavirus patients take up a large share of its ICU beds (27.4%), as communities in that state face brutal outbreaks and some local hospitals worry about looming capacity crunches.

Four other states with high case counts have more than one-in-five ICU beds taken by Covid-19 patients: Nevada (24.1%), Florida (22.5%), Mississippi (22.3%) and Utah (22.2%).

Another 11 states — most of which have higher infection rates than the national average — reported coronavirus ICU usage above 10%: Texas (18.3%), Oklahoma (17.9%), Alaska (16.7%), Wyoming (15.2%), Idaho (14.6%), Kansas (14.4%), Louisiana (14.3%), Alabama (13.6%), Georgia (12.9%), Arizona (11.6%) and Washington (11.2%).

A few states with relatively low infection rates have very few Covid-19 hospitalizations: Under 3% of ICU beds are taken by virus patients in Vermont, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Michigan, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and Ohio.

After months of solid declines, coronavirus cases are climbing in all 50 states yet again. Experts say the virus’ Delta variant — which accounts for over 80% of U.S. cases — is the primary culprit for this spike, but some communities are particularly vulnerable to surges because fewer residents are vaccinated against Covid-19. Some 56.6% of Americans have received at least one vaccine shot, but uptake varies widely from state to state, with vaccines reaching 75.2% of Vermonters but just 38.6% of Mississippians. The vaccines also seem to help keep people out of the hospital, even as the virus evolves: One recent study from Israel suggested Pfizer’s vaccine is less effective at warding off Delta infections than previous forms of the virus, but it’s still more than 90% effective at stopping hospitalizations.

“What we’re seeing is surges of infections in communities with low vaccination rates,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University’s School of Public Health, told CNBC’s Shepard Smith on Thursday. “We’re seeing little bumps in cases in places like Vermont and Massachusetts that have high vaccination rates, but they’re fine, their hospitals are fine, they’re not likely to get overwhelmed.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewal...nt---these-17-states-are-leading-the-way/amp/

 

[nostradumbass]

That's the problem: it's still sunny and warm and yet the numbers are already growing fast in certain regions. The same country that gave the world the best tools to reduce Covid hospitalization and deaths still have places that are in real danger of repeating last year's nightmarish scenario again this coming Fall/Winter, for absolutely no good reason whatsoever.

We are still doing quite well overall as a nation thanks to the majority of our countrymen having common sense (especially comparing to the unfortunate countries still waiting for their vaccines shipment), but just as the doctors warned us months ago, the emerging "two Americas" is quite real as the gulf between each State's immunization rates grew wider, and the ones making the headlines come as a shock to absolutely no one.

Some of those scraping at the bottom half of the immunization barrel (most notably Missouri/Arkansas/Mississippi) are already being hammered hard even though it's only July, while this surge is barely registered on the radar in the States that have been working hard these past months to achieve regional Herd Immunity, neither are a surprise to anyone.

When these numbers continue to rise for weeks/months to come, and history repeats itself on a high crescendo after the still-unvaccinated people sneezed on each other at this year's holidays gatherings, absolute no one is going to be surprised at what comes next, except may be for those who will be having regrets about their poor life choices as they're being hooked into ventilators, months after they've been given the mean to avoid it.

Covid Hospitalizations Tick Up Across U.S. Due To Delta Variant — These 17 States Are Leading The Way
By Joe Walsh | Jul 24, 2021

The number of Americans hospitalized with Covid-19 jumped nearly 60% in the last week, as the coronavirus’ more infectious Delta variant fuels a new wave of infections — and admissions to intensive care units have spiked in a few hard-hit states.

Missouri leads the rest of the country with 29.8% of statewide ICU beds taken up by Covid-19 patients, as the Delta variant sweeps through cities like Springfield, pushing up coronavirus infections and forcing hospitals to expand capacity.

Neighboring Arkansas is also having coronavirus patients take up a large share of its ICU beds (27.4%), as communities in that state face brutal outbreaks and some local hospitals worry about looming capacity crunches.

Four other states with high case counts have more than one-in-five ICU beds taken by Covid-19 patients: Nevada (24.1%), Florida (22.5%), Mississippi (22.3%) and Utah (22.2%).

Another 11 states — most of which have higher infection rates than the national average — reported coronavirus ICU usage above 10%: Texas (18.3%), Oklahoma (17.9%), Alaska (16.7%), Wyoming (15.2%), Idaho (14.6%), Kansas (14.4%), Louisiana (14.3%), Alabama (13.6%), Georgia (12.9%), Arizona (11.6%) and Washington (11.2%).

A few states with relatively low infection rates have very few Covid-19 hospitalizations: Under 3% of ICU beds are taken by virus patients in Vermont, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Michigan, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and Ohio.

After months of solid declines, coronavirus cases are climbing in all 50 states yet again. Experts say the virus’ Delta variant — which accounts for over 80% of U.S. cases — is the primary culprit for this spike, but some communities are particularly vulnerable to surges because fewer residents are vaccinated against Covid-19. Some 56.6% of Americans have received at least one vaccine shot, but uptake varies widely from state to state, with vaccines reaching 75.2% of Vermonters but just 38.6% of Mississippians. The vaccines also seem to help keep people out of the hospital, even as the virus evolves: One recent study from Israel suggested Pfizer’s vaccine is less effective at warding off Delta infections than previous forms of the virus, but it’s still more than 90% effective at stopping hospitalizations.

“What we’re seeing is surges of infections in communities with low vaccination rates,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University’s School of Public Health, told CNBC’s Shepard Smith on Thursday. “We’re seeing little bumps in cases in places like Vermont and Massachusetts that have high vaccination rates, but they’re fine, their hospitals are fine, they’re not likely to get overwhelmed.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewal...nt---these-17-states-are-leading-the-way/amp/

Right, but seems pretty deceptive to say ___% increase in the last 3 weeks when that's an increase from all time lows.

If we're going to claim "repeat of last year", then you should compare the numbers from the same time last year, and the 7 day average from the same time last year was 4x higher than it is now, even though 4th of July celebrations were canceled almost everywhere last year.

 

[Arkain2K]

Right, but seems pretty deceptive to say ___% increase in the last 3 weeks when that's an increase from all time lows.

If we're going to claim "repeat of last year", then you should compare the numbers from the same time last year, and the 7 day average from the same time last year was 4x higher than it is now, even though 4th of July celebrations were canceled almost everywhere last year.

You can't seriously expecting these doctors to sit down and crunch all those year-on-year numbers for you as well, after they already reported how many cases their hospital have each week? I don't think they are being deceptive to anyone by providing you the exact numbers for the recent increase. Besides, what benefits are they getting out of "deceiving" you with their weekly report?

Here's a simpler explanation that's more logical than any conspiracy theories: if they gave you the exact increase over the last 3 weeks, it's probably because they are talking about the month of July, of which we are moving on to week #4 of the month. Make sense now?

If you want a wider scope of data for comparison, you can go straight to your State's Department of Health to get them. Those numbers are not really secret, and they are tallied and published every month for anyone to analyze. Here it is for Missouri to get you started:
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Since July 1, Missouri’s COVID case average has jumped 161%, hospitalizations have increased 58%
By Kevin S. Held | July 23, 2021



JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Hospitalizations and case numbers continue skyrocketing in Missouri.

Approximately 2.48 million people have completed the vaccination process in Missouri; 57.3% of all adults 18 years of age and older have initiated the process. The state has administered 75,885 doses of vaccine in the last 7 days (this metric is subject to a delay, meaning the last three days are not factored in). The highest vaccination rates are among people over 65.

Only five jurisdictions in the state are over 40% fully vaccinated: Boone, St. Louis, St. Charles, and Franklin counties, and the city of Joplin.

The 7-day rolling average for cases in Missouri sits at 1,631; yesterday, it was 1,615. Exactly one month ago, the state rolling average was 477.

Approximately 47.7% of all reported cases are for individuals 39 years of age and younger. The state has further broken down the age groups into smaller units. The 18 to 24 age group has 69,389 recorded cases, while 25 to 29-year-olds have 46,924 cases.

People 80 years of age and older account for approximately 47.4% of all recorded deaths in the state.

Missouri has administered 5,950,874 PCR tests for COVID-19 over the entirety of the pandemic and as of July 21, 16.1% of those tests have come back positive. People who have received multiple PCR tests are not counted twice, according to the state health department.

Month/Year | Missouri COVID cases

March 2020: 1,327
April 2020: 6,235
May 2020: 5,585
June 2020: 8,404
July 2020: 28,772
August 2020: 34,374
September 2020: 41,416
October 2020: 57,073
November 2020: 116,576
December 2020: 92,808

January 2021: 66,249
February 2021: 19,405
March 2021: 11,150
April 2021: 12,165
May 2021: 9,913
June 2021: 12,680
July 2021: 24,593

As of July 19, Missouri is reporting 1,532 COVID hospitalizations and a rolling 7-day average of 1,446. The remaining inpatient hospital bed capacity sits at 20% statewide. The state’s public health care metrics lag behind by three days due to reporting delays, especially on weekends. Keep in mind that the state counts all beds available and not just beds that are staffed by medical personnel.

On July 6, the 7-day rolling average for hospitalizations eclipsed the 1,000-person milestone for the first time in four months, with 1,013 patients. The 7-day average for hospitalizations had previously been over 1,000 from Sept. 16, 2020, to March 5, 2021. It was over 2,000 from Nov. 9, 2020, to Jan. 27, 2021.

The 2021 low point on the hospitalization average across was 655 on May 29.

Across the state, 483 COVID patients are in ICU beds, leaving the state’s remaining intensive care capacity at 19%.

If you have additional questions about the coronavirus, the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services is available at 877-435-8411.

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/s...d-161-hospitalizations-have-increased-58/amp/

 

[Letssnuggle]

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-may-back-wearing-face-masks-more-in-public-fauci-says/

Ut oh!

We were led to believe after receiving a covid-19 vaccine that we could go back to normal life. This is a fact.

There was a active media campaign to blame antivaxxers for the recent spike in covid cases. There was even a active campaign within this thread. This is a fact.

Israel reported the Pfizer vaccine is 34% effective against delta. This is a fact.

It was misinformation to tell people that they are not contributing to the spread of covid after receiving the vaccine (mask mandates were removed based on it). And it is now being discussed that vaccinated people are just as culpable when it comes to spreading covid (transmission) and any new variants. This is a fact.

There is clearly more to the recent spike then the simpleminded position of blaming "antivaxxers". Social distancing and masks are once again being discussed as our way to prevent transmission and future variants. This is a fact.

How embarrassing.

 

[Queen B]

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-may-back-wearing-face-masks-more-in-public-fauci-says/
Israel reported the Pfizer vaccine is 34% effective against delta.

It still prevents hospitalizations and sever illness.

Johnson & Johnson was 60% effective against the old Covid too. They were produced because they prevented hospitalizations

 

[kiley_sean]

It still prevents hospitalizations and sever illness.

Johnson & Johnson was 60% effective against the old Covid too. They were produced because they prevented hospitalizations

Where are these studies?

 

[Joe]

Lol this isnt surprising at all but still lol

 

[Queen B]

Lol this isnt surprising at all but still lol

The only country that can end the pandemic but is going back to restrictions

 

[Arkain2K]

There is continued concern over nationwide surges in Covid infections and hospitalizations, which are unraveling months of progress on the pandemic. Major hospitals are preparing for new influxes of patients.

 

[Arkain2K]

Pfizer says it's time for a Covid booster; FDA and CDC say not so fast
By Maggie Fox | July 09, 2021

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Drugmaker Pfizer said Thursday it is seeing waning immunity from its coronavirus vaccine and says it is picking up its efforts to develop a booster dose that will protect people from variants.

Pfizer said it would soon publish data about a third dose of vaccine and submit it to the US Food and Drug Administration, European Medicines Agency and other regulators. The company specified it would seek FDA emergency use authorization for a booster dose in August.

But in an unusual move, two top federal agencies said Americans don't need boosters yet and said it was not up to companies alone to decide when they might be needed.

Hours after Pfizer issued its statement, the FDA and Centers for Disease and Control issued a joint statement saying Americans do not need booster shots yet.

"Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time," they said.

US government officials have stressed that fully vaccinated people have a low risk of infection, even from the Delta or B.1.617.2 variant, which is more transmissible than earlier lineages of the virus.

Plus, several studies have indicated the mRNA vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna confer longterm protection.

"FDA, CDC, and NIH (the National Institutes of Health) are engaged in a science-based, rigorous process to consider whether or when a booster might be necessary. This process takes into account laboratory data, clinical trial data, and cohort data -- which can include data from specific pharmaceutical companies, but does not rely on those data exclusively," they added.

It was a clear message to Pfizer, which has been hinting at the need for a booster shot for months.

"We continue to review any new data as it becomes available and will keep the public informed. We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed," the CDC and FDA said in the statement.

"The United States is fortunate to have highly effective vaccines that are widely available for those aged 12 and up. People who are fully vaccinated are protected from severe disease and death, including from the variants currently circulating in the country such as Delta," the statement continued.

"People who are not vaccinated remain at risk. Virtually all COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths are among those who are unvaccinated. We encourage Americans who have not yet been vaccinated to get vaccinated as soon as possible to protect themselves and their community."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/08/health/pfizer-waning-immunity-bn/index.html

 

[Arkain2K]

The U.K and Israel are reporting conflicting numbers on Pfizer's efficacy against mild symptomatic Delta infections (88% vs 40%), though they are in agreement on its excellent protection against serious Covid illness and hospitalization (around 90%).

Both countries could be right, due to their vastly different roll-out strategies, most notably the different dosing intervals between the two shots that generates different levels of neutralizing antibodies in similar demographics.

The studies' conclusions on the outcome reinforces what the doctors have been saying all along: if vaccinated people gets infected, their immune system is well-prepared to overwhelms the virus and prevents it from turning them into coronavirus factories.

That also explain why over 99% of hospitalized Covid patients gasping for air in U.S hospitals right now are unvaccinated people.

At the end of the day, what's undisputed beyond any doubts and confirmed by both countries' data sets is that immunization remains the most effective tool to keep our hospitals from being overrun with dying Covid patients, unlike the healthcare disaster that vulnerable countries all over the world are facing, when the Delta wave reaches their shores long before their citizens have ANY protection at all.
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Is Israel or the UK right when it comes to COVID-19 vaccine efficacy against Delta?
By MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN | JULY 24, 2021​

Is the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine 88% or only 40% effective against preventing symptomatic infection?

Two separate studies, one published by Israel’s Health Ministry and the other published in the New England Journal of Medicine late Thursday showed striking differences.

“This discrepancy is kind of unsettling and needs to be further investigated,” said Prof. Cyrille Cohen, a member of the advisory committee for clinical trials on SARS-COV2 vaccines at the Health Ministry.

Specifically, the ministry’s study found that the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine was only 40% effective against symptomatic cases of COVID-19 and 39% effective at stopping infection at all against the Delta variant.

It did, however, show that the vaccine remains 91% effective against developing serious cases of the disease and 88% effective against hospitalization.

The British study, in contrast, found that two doses of the Pfizer vaccine were 88% effective against stopping symptomatic infection against the Delta variant.

The study was authored by researchers from Public Health England, the National Institute of Health Research, Guy’s and St. Thomas’ Hospital NHS Trust and the University of Oxford.

The Delta variant is currently responsible for more than 90% of cases in the country and has been found to be significantly more contagious.

According to Cohen, there are several possible answers to the data gap.

First and critical is the difference in time between exposure to the Delta variant and vaccination.

England vaccinated at a much slower pace than Israel, meaning that the majority of its population was only fully vaccinated by mid-April 2021. This is in contrast to Israel, where around 90% of the country’s most vulnerable population were jabbed by the end of January.

It is beginning to become clear that vaccine immunity begins to wane after about six months. The Israeli study showed that for people vaccinated more than six months ago, the effectiveness of the vaccine at stopping coronavirus dropped to as low as 16%.

Among more than 1.8 million people who received two shots by January 31, some 5,770 contracted the virus – and 1,181 of them, or 20% of all new infections, were contracted during the week of July 11 to 17, the Health Ministry reported.

“If you take into account that they [the UK population] vaccinated later and were exposed to the Delta variant a month before us,” Cohen said, “it could make sense that at the point they checked, they had around 80% effectiveness. The question is what is going to happen in three months? Will they see the same efficacy that we are seeing?”

THE NEXT issue is age.

Both Israel and the UK were careful to first vaccinate healthcare workers and the elderly. In England, however, the older population was largely administered the AstraZeneca vaccine, whereas people under 40 were offered Pfizer or Moderna as an alternative, due to evidence linking AstraZeneca to rare blood clots. The same study showed that the AstraZeneca vaccine was only 67% effective against symptomatic disease after two doses.

In Israel, everyone received Pfizer. Breakthrough infections were most prominent among people aged 60 and older, a cohort that already has a greater tendency to be immunocompromised and prone to developing symptomatic if not severe cases of COVID-19.

A third explanation relates to the level of PCR testing carried out in the two countries. Israel uses a more sensitive or stringent PCR testing regime than the UK.

Genetic matter from the virus is amplified in cycles by PCR tests. The more cycles that are run, the more likely the lab is to detect the virus. Israel uses 37 amplifying cycles, which means that you are positive for the coronavirus even if the test process required up to 37 cycles to detect the virus.

“If the PCR testing is less sensitive, England may miss some cases – or Israel may catch more cases – and that could play a role in the numbers,” Cohen said.

Finally, a separate Oxford University study that was published over the weekend found that an eight-week gap between the first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine is a “sweet spot” when it comes to generating neutralizing antibodies.

When England launched its vaccination campaign, it did not have enough doses to vaccinate the population according to Pfizer’s recommended regime of two doses three weeks apart. As such, it spread doses out to between four and 12 weeks to allow more people to get at least one jab.

Specifically, the new research showed that neutralizing antibody levels, the level of those antibodies responsible for defending cells from pathogens, were higher after the extended dosing interval (six to 14 weeks) compared to the conventional three-to-four-week regime.

In contrast, the T cell response was of a marginally lower magnitude after the longer dosing interval. T cells provide longer-term immunity and scientists believe that they could provide some immunity to COVID-19, even when antibodies become less effective at fighting the disease.

“The question is: Would you wait eight weeks when there is a pandemic?” Cohen asked, noting that separate studies have shown that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is only around 30% effective against the Delta variant, which would leave the population vulnerable for two months. “It’s a tough question.”

Cohen’s solution is to provide a third shot to the most vulnerable people, which new research is starting to show does a good job in boosting antibody levels.

“We are still learning the best way to immunize people with these vaccines,” he said. “But we are still in the middle of the pandemic.”

https://m.jpost.com/ israel-pfizer-news/is-israel-or-the-uk-right-when-it-comes-to-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-674766/amp

 

[The_Renaissance]

@Arkain2K
Interesting chart. Is the surge over in the uk? Does that mean the US has another month of this?

I'll tell it straight, for you, mate.

It's because the schools have closed for summer. We have been testing 500k people a fucking day over here, it's absolutely mental behaviour - if other countries were testing that many people every day, they'd also have 50k cases a day. We have been testing fucking school children on a daily basis, it's absolutely no surprise we've been finding 30-50k cases a day - the vast majority are asymptomatic.

Mark my words, by next weekend our cases are gonna be around 10k, and by the following weekend, 5k. And come September? "The 4th Wave" when they start testing 500k people a day again.

Stop testing fucking kids, and the pandemic ends. This is now a casedemic in the UK, hospitalisations and deaths are bang average for this time of year, there has no been explosion in either off the back of Euro 2020 and other large gatherings.

I've said many, many times - if we were testing 500k people a day for the flu every winter, we'd have had a flu pandemic every single year since I was born in 1982.

 

[Madmick]

Large study finds COVID-19 is linked to a substantial drop in intelligence
The researcher only noticed it because there was a large-scale drop in his routine testing results. It wasn't hard to hypothesize would could have cause this recent, precipitous drop, so they investigated, and indeed, the correlation is undeniable.

Yet another debilitating side effect of those who suffer moderate or severe symptoms of the disease, and these are roughly 20% of all cases (not just hospitalizations). We have associated dozens and dozens of serious side effects similar to this for these people who suffer cases that progress beyond mild symptoms.

• Global, 20% of All Confirmed Cases = 38,993,893 cases
• USA, 20% of All Confirmed Cases = 7,039,893 cases
• USA, Hospitalizations = In the millions

Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers cling to scarce reports of side effects correlated to the vaccine. In the USA, between anaphylactic shock (immediately treatable), myocarditis/pericarditis, Guillerme-Barre Syndrome, and Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, this is at most a total of ~2,087 people.

This is just more evidence that the ratio of serious adverse side effects suffered by those who contract COVID outnumbers those who suffer side effects of the vaccine by an even more gaping margin than those who die from COVID versus those who die from the vaccine. Deaths from the disease are tens of thousands of times greater, and even thousands of times greater among young, healthy people. Side effects appear to be hundreds of thousands of times more prevalent.