International [U.S COVID Vaccine News] CDC to Lift COVID-19 Testing Requirement for international Travelers

I'll tell it straight, for you, mate.

It's because the schools have closed for summer. We have been testing 500k people a fucking day over here, it's absolutely mental behaviour - if other countries were testing that many people every day, they'd also have 50k cases a day. We have been testing fucking school children on a daily basis, it's absolutely no surprise we've been finding 30-50k cases a day - the vast majority are asymptomatic.

Mark my words, by next weekend our cases are gonna be around 10k, and by the following weekend, 5k. And come September? "The 4th Wave" when they start testing 500k people a day again.

Stop testing fucking kids, and the pandemic ends. This is now a casedemic in the UK, hospitalisations and deaths are bang average for this time of year, there has no been explosion in either off the back of Euro 2020 and other large gatherings.

I've said many, many times - if we were testing 500k people a day for the flu every winter, we'd have had a flu pandemic every single year since I was born in 1982.
Yes, the UK is testing at admirable rates. That's true.

What isn't true: the "casedemic" conspiracy you've floated without an iota of thoughtful inquiry or investigation. Because, if you had, you'd have noticed that the total number of tests per positive result has been precipitously declining since the middle of May-- we'll pinpoint this as May 21st. This is despite that the rolling 7-day average of tests per capita have remained relatively stable since that time: 14.29 per 1K on that date. They've ranged from 10.78 to 16.45 since, and are at 15.85 currently. Meanwhile, your 7-day rolling average of positive tests have skyrocketed. They were at 23.51 on May 21st. They have soared on an upward curve to peak at 698.9 on July 20th, and remain above 600 today.

Ergo, to simplify, your tests have remained stable, but your cases have shot through the roof. So the tests aren't to blame for the spike in your confirmed cases. Testing hasn't changed. It's been up 15% at most. Meanwhile, the confirmed cases has increased nearly 30x (~3000%).


Sorry. Facts not feelings.
 
Yes, the UK is testing at admirable rates. That's true.

What isn't true: the "casedemic" conspiracy you've floated without an iota of thoughtful inquiry or investigation. Because, if you had, you'd have noticed that the total number of tests per positive result has been precipitously declining since the middle of May-- we'll pinpoint this as May 21st. This is despite that the rolling 7-day average of tests per capita have remained relatively stable since that time: 14.29 per 1K on that date. They've ranged from 10.78 to 16.45 since, and are at 15.85 currently. Meanwhile, your 7-day rolling average of positive tests have skyrocketed. They were at 23.51 on May 21st. They have soared on an upward curve to peak at 698.9 on July 20th, and remain above 600 today.

Ergo, to simplify, your tests have remained stable, but your cases have shot through the roof. So the tests aren't to blame for the spike in your confirmed cases. Testing hasn't changed. It's been up 15% at most. Meanwhile, the confirmed cases has increased nearly 30x (~3000%).


Sorry. Facts not feelings.



There is absolutely nothing admirable about it.
 
Large study finds COVID-19 is linked to a substantial drop in intelligence
The researcher only noticed it because there was a large-scale drop in his routine testing results. It wasn't hard to hypothesize would could have cause this recent, precipitous drop, so they investigated, and indeed, the correlation is undeniable.

Yet another debilitating side effect of those who suffer moderate or severe symptoms of the disease, and these are roughly 20% of all cases (not just hospitalizations). We have associated dozens and dozens of serious side effects similar to this for these people who suffer cases that progress beyond mild symptoms.
  • Global, 20% of All Confirmed Cases = 38,993,893 cases
  • USA, 20% of All Confirmed Cases = 7,039,893 cases
  • USA, Hospitalizations = In the millions

Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers cling to scarce reports of side effects correlated to the vaccine. In the USA, between anaphylactic shock (immediately treatable), myocarditis/pericarditis, Guillerme-Barre Syndrome, and Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, this is at most a total of ~2,087 people.

This is just more evidence that the ratio of serious adverse side effects suffered by those who contract COVID outnumbers those who suffer side effects of the vaccine by an even more gaping margin than those who die from COVID versus those who die from the vaccine. Deaths from the disease are tens of thousands of times greater, and even thousands of times greater among young, healthy people. Side effects appear to be hundreds of thousands of times more prevalent.
There was a large study last month about Covid permanently shrinking brain tissue


“In short, the study suggests that there could be some long-term loss of brain tissue from Covid, and that would have some long-term consequences,” the former FDA chief and CNBC contributor said.

“You could compensate for that over time, so the symptoms of that may go away, but you’re never going to regain the tissue if, in fact, it’s being destroyed as a result of the virus,” said Gottlieb, who serves on the board of Covid vaccine-maker Pfizer.

 
I'll leave this here for anyone interested.

The man runs the premier patent firm in the world and irrefutably and undeniably buries Fauci,
The CDC and the entire US government for their involvement in developing Covid 19:





Suicided in 3..2...1...

i will admit that most of this video is over my head, can anyone actually discredit this?
 
Data created and pushed by two insanely massive institutions with a conflict of interest is not inherently credible. Its nothing more than a narrative. A very questionable narrative considering what those who are pushing it stand to gain from it.

Not one of these studies or reports has any basis in provable fact. We're just supposed to take the word of those who stand to gain immensely from it. No.
 
I'll leave this here for anyone interested.

The man runs the premier patent firm in the world and irrefutably and undeniably buries Fauci,
The CDC and the entire US government for their involvement in developing Covid 19:





Suicided in 3..2...1...


Wait you think the US with China invented Corona?

Come on man. It clearly shows most likely it is a chinese orignated virus that escaped from a lab.
There was a large study last month about Covid permanently shrinking brain tissue






Also corona was linked to low testosterone levels in men and damage to testicals.


Yet the conspiracy tards say the vaccine will make you sterile. When if anything corona will. Now look Maybe a Chinese Vaccine will if you take it in South Africa but the evidence showa getting Corona is far worse then getting vaccinated!
 
If this is the way to reach these people then I say go for it. Get the Trump vaccine lovingly handcrafted with the most luxurious ingredients by Donny Trump himself in Trump Laboratories

 
Very normal country


"No evidence" literally means no evidence. That could be from a lack of observable data. Politicians on both sides are treating their citizens like idiots, and even if they are idiots that is all the more reason to seriously address their concerns and be HONEST.

This is the most powerful vaccine ever put on the market. there is NO FUCKING WAY it does not cause adverse reactions in some people. NO WAY. Even TYLENOL causes adverse reactions in people.
 
Speaking of Israel, they decided to vaccinate their most vulnerable children with health issues that would give them high likelihood of dying to a Covid infection (severe obesity, chronic lung disease, immunosuppression or heart failure), eventhough the multi-countries Pfizer pediatric trial isn't finished until September.

Israel Begins Pfizer Covid-19 Vaccine for At-Risk Children Under 12 as Delta Cases Surge

Officials say young children with certain underlying conditions should get the shot
By Dov Lieber and Rory Jones | July 27, 2021​

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TEL AVIV—Israel authorized the use of Pfizer Inc.’s Covid-19 vaccine for vulnerable children between five and 11 years old, as cases of the highly contagious Delta variant rise sharply.

Israeli officials said young children should be given the shot if they have a high likelihood of serious illness or death from Covid-19 because of underlying conditions such as severe obesity, chronic lung disease, immunosuppression or heart failure.

The health ministry said each individual case would require special approval and children would be given a lower dosage of the vaccine—10 micrograms instead of the usual 30 micrograms—in accordance with data provided from Pfizer. A spokesman for Pfizer said dosing regimens reside with health authorities as opposed to the pharmaceutical company.

Pfizer is testing the 10-microgram dose in children five to 11 years old, but hasn’t released any clinical data yet. It said it expects to have study results in September, when it expects to ask the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to authorize the use of its shot for this age group.

Israel’s authorization on Tuesday, one of the first in the world, comes after the U.S. FDA raised the minimum number of young children that should be in current Covid-19 vaccine trials to better detect any side effects. The FDA wants to better understand side effects, such as a rare heart condition known as myocarditis, that have surfaced in small numbers of people.

Israel’s decision to fast-track shots for vulnerable children was based on an assessment of the potential side effects versus the consequences of not giving at-risk youngsters the vaccines, said Eyal Leshem, director of Israel’s Sheba Hospital’s Center for Travel Medicine and Tropical Diseases. The move would likely allow hundreds of at-risk children to be inoculated, he said.

“You cannot wait for clinical trials when the disease is rampaging outside and you can’t lock people home for months and months,” he added.

Israel’s seven-day average for new cases of the coronavirus rose to over 1,400 Tuesday, up from around 10 for the first half of June. The total number of severely ill cases stands at 138. More than 80% of the adult population in Israel has been fully inoculated, largely with the Pfizer vaccine.

Earlier in July, Israel became one of the first countries to begin providing a third shot of the vaccine to immunocompromised individuals, such as those who have undergone organ transplants. The country also has returned to some restrictions it had largely abandoned after rolling out a rapid vaccination campaign, such as enforcing indoor mask wearing and allowing only vaccinated individuals, those recovering from the virus or with recent negative tests into events. But the government has sought to manage the virus, rather than initiate another national lockdown.

Several countries, including the U.S. and Israel, are offering the Pfizer shot to children 12 years and older. China has approved two of its vaccines, from Sinovac and Sinopharm, for emergency use in children three to 17 years old. The U.K. has held back from offering vaccines to older children under 18, unless they have certain serious illnesses.

So far, Israel has given a first shot to 41% of children 10 to 19 years old, according to the Israeli Health Ministry.

Most children infected with the coronavirus tend to develop mild cases, if they have symptoms at all, according to doctors and epidemiologists. The most comprehensive study, by U.K. researchers, found that 99.995% of 469,982 children in England who were infected over a year survived.

—Jared S. Hopkins in New York contributed to this article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel...ren-under-12-as-delta-cases-surge-11627414792
 
Oh sweet home Alabama. Now that your hospitals are filling up all across the state with unvaccinated patients, don't say your people haven't been warned repeatedly for MONTHS, back when they had plenty of time to reach Herd Immunity before the next wave hits.

That being said, Alabama's solution to reduce their rising wave of hospitalization is to let their students go back to school in the middle of this shitshow without masks, so I wish the people of Alabama the best of luck with their Rights to breathe through Ventilators.

‘It’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated’: Alabama Governor on rise in COVID-19 hospitalizations and low vaccination rate
By William Thornton | July 22, 2021​



A fiery Governor Kay Ivey made her most forceful statements yet today encouraging Alabamians to get the COVID-19 vaccine, saying “the unvaccinated folks are letting us down” in the fight to control the pandemic.

She also signaled she would not mandate students to wear masks when classes resume in Alabama’s public schools, saying that decision should be left up to school districts.

“Let’s be crystal clear about this issue,” Ivey said.

“Media, I want you to start reporting the facts. The new cases of COVID are because of unvaccinated folks. Almost 100% of the new hospitalizations are unvaccinated folks. And the deaths certainly are occurring with unvaccinated folks. These folks are choosing a horrible lifestyle of self-inflicted pain. We’ve got to get folks to take the shot.”

Ivey was in Birmingham this afternoon speaking at the opening of tech company Landing’s new headquarters, responding to questions from the assembled media.

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Calling the vaccines “the greatest weapon we have to fight COVID,” Ivey admitted some frustration in response to questions on what she can do to encourage more Alabamians to get vaccinated.

Alabama is the only state in the nation with fewer than 40% of eligible residents vaccinated against COVID-19. Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows just 39.6% of people 12 and older in Alabama are fully vaccinated.

In response to the question of what will take it get more people to take the vaccine, Ivey said, “I don’t know. You tell me.”

“Folks are supposed to have common sense,” she said. “It’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down....I’ve done all I know how to do. I can encourage you to do something, but I can’t make you take care of yourself.”

Unvaccinated people represent an overwhelming percentage of Alabama’s COVID deaths since April, according to the Alabama Department of Public Health. Alabama has recorded more than 500 COVID deaths since April 1. Of those, only 20 people were fully vaccinated, meaning slightly over 96% were unvaccinated.

In response to a question about mandating masks among school children, Ivey appeared to signal that would be a half-measure.

“I want folks to get vaccinated,” she said.

“That’s the cure. That prevents everything. Why do we want to mess around with just temporary stuff? We don’t need to just encourage people to go halfway with curing this disease. Let’s get it done. We know what it takes to get it done. Get a shot in your arm. I’ve done it. It’s safe. The data proves it. It doesn’t cost anything. It saves lives.”

Ivey received both shots of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine in December. She called it “just the thing to do,” saying those who have received it should encourage others to receive the vaccine.

People must “take care of themselves and us as well. We can’t do that for them. All we can do is everybody take the shot for themselves, so encourage others to do likewise,” Ivey said.

https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/kay...ed-i-cant-make-you-take-care-of-yourself.html

Alabama has the most fast food restaurants per capita, but they are worried about what they put in their body when it comes to the vaccine?
 
"No evidence" literally means no evidence. That could be from a lack of observable data. Politicians on both sides are treating their citizens like idiots, and even if they are idiots that is all the more reason to seriously address their concerns and be HONEST.

This is the most powerful vaccine ever put on the market. there is NO FUCKING WAY it does not cause adverse reactions in some people. NO WAY. Even TYLENOL causes adverse reactions in people.
There has been adverse reactions, even just a few blood clots halted the J&J vaccines. Thats how careful CDC is.

but lol at booing because what? they were hoping it caused fertility issues?
 
Covid Hospitalizations Tick Up Across U.S. Due To Delta Variant — These 17 States Are Leading The Way
By Joe Walsh | Jul 24, 2021

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The number of Americans hospitalized with Covid-19 jumped nearly 60% in the last week, as the coronavirus’ more infectious Delta variant fuels a new wave of infections — and admissions to intensive care units have spiked in a few hard-hit states.

Missouri leads the rest of the country with 29.8% of statewide ICU beds taken up by Covid-19 patients, as the Delta variant sweeps through cities like Springfield, pushing up coronavirus infections and forcing hospitals to expand capacity.

Neighboring Arkansas is also having coronavirus patients take up a large share of its ICU beds (27.4%), as communities in that state face brutal outbreaks and some local hospitals worry about looming capacity crunches.

Four other states with high case counts have more than one-in-five ICU beds taken by Covid-19 patients: Nevada (24.1%), Florida (22.5%), Mississippi (22.3%) and Utah (22.2%).

Another 11 states — most of which have higher infection rates than the national average — reported coronavirus ICU usage above 10%: Texas (18.3%), Oklahoma (17.9%), Alaska (16.7%), Wyoming (15.2%), Idaho (14.6%), Kansas (14.4%), Louisiana (14.3%), Alabama (13.6%), Georgia (12.9%), Arizona (11.6%) and Washington (11.2%).

A few states with relatively low infection rates have very few Covid-19 hospitalizations: Under 3% of ICU beds are taken by virus patients in Vermont, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Michigan, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and Ohio.

After months of solid declines, coronavirus cases are climbing in all 50 states yet again. Experts say the virus’ Delta variant — which accounts for over 80% of U.S. cases — is the primary culprit for this spike, but some communities are particularly vulnerable to surges because fewer residents are vaccinated against Covid-19. Some 56.6% of Americans have received at least one vaccine shot, but uptake varies widely from state to state, with vaccines reaching 75.2% of Vermonters but just 38.6% of Mississippians. The vaccines also seem to help keep people out of the hospital, even as the virus evolves: One recent study from Israel suggested Pfizer’s vaccine is less effective at warding off Delta infections than previous forms of the virus, but it’s still more than 90% effective at stopping hospitalizations.

“What we’re seeing is surges of infections in communities with low vaccination rates,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University’s School of Public Health, told CNBC’s Shepard Smith on Thursday. “We’re seeing little bumps in cases in places like Vermont and Massachusetts that have high vaccination rates, but they’re fine, their hospitals are fine, they’re not likely to get overwhelmed.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewal...nt---these-17-states-are-leading-the-way/amp/

Absolutely shocking. It's almost like the strange desire to prolong the pandemic and the subsequent need for Covid restrictions as the result are somehow connected.

St. Louis, Missouri to Require Masks to Limit Spread of COVID-19 Delta Variant

As COVID-19 hospitalizations rise and the Delta variant spreads, the City of St. Louis and St. Louis County will require masks to be worn in indoor public places and on public transportation beginning Monday.

The new rule will require everyone age five and over, including those who are vaccinated, to wear a mask. Wearing masks outdoors, especially in group settings, will be strongly encouraged.

Mayor Tishaura O. Jones and County Executive Dr. Sam Page will hold a media briefing at 9:30 a.m. Monday at St. Louis City Hall to take questions about this needed step to limit the spread of COVID-19.

“We’ve lost more than 500 St. Louisans to COVID-19, and if our region doesn’t work together to protect one another, we could see spikes that overwhelm our hospital and public health systems,” said Dr. Fredrick Echols, acting director of health for the City of St. Louis. “The City and County health departments are taking this joint step to save lives, make sure hospitals can provide the care residents rely on, and protect our children so they can enjoy a full range of educational opportunities this year. Wear a mask, wash your hands, watch your distance when possible, and most importantly, get vaccinated. Vaccines remain one of the best methods to prevent severe complications and death from the virus.”

Dr. Faisal Khan, acting director of the St. Louis County Department of Public Health, emphasized the importance of vaccinations and masks.

“Vaccinations are the best way to stop the fast-spreading Delta variant of COVID-19, but so far, not enough people have been vaccinated,” Dr. Khan said. “We are relentlessly committed to making vaccinations more accessible and convenient. In the meantime, we need everyone, vaccinated or not, to wear masks in crowded indoor settings. We must protect our most vulnerable residents as well as children under 12, who are not yet eligible for vaccinations.”

Exceptions in the orders will include people who are seated in a restaurant or bar eating and drinking and individuals with disabilities that prevent them from putting on or removing face coverings.

The City and County health departments continue to stress the importance of getting a COVID-19 vaccine. It is the safest and best way for both protecting against SARS-CoV-2 and limiting the spread of the virus. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, vaccines have been shown to reduce hospitalizations due to COVID-19 by 87% percent. A list of where to find a vaccine near you can be found on the City COVID-19 Vaccine Information website and County’s stlcorona.com [stlcorona.com] website.
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/departments/mayor/news/mask-requirement-delta-variant.cfm
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Kansas City to re-impose mask mandate as COVID-19 cases surge across Missouri
By KWCH Staff | Jul. 27, 2021​

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Due to a surge of coronavirus cases, the mayor of Kansas City, Missouri, announced a new mandate requiring residents to wear face masks while in public.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KWCH/AP) - The mayor of Kansas City, Mo. said he will follow the latest CDC guidelines and re-impose a mask mandate for indoors.

“We cannot ignore the rapid spread of the COVID-19 Delta variant in Missouri—outpacing much of the country. We will do all we can to ensure our corner of this state is safe,” said Mayor Quinton Lucas on Twitter. He said he’d release more details on Wednesday.

Jackson County, Mo., where Kansas City is located says it will require many workers to get immunized or undergo weekly testing.

Missouri has the nation’s fourth-worst COVID-19 diagnosis rate over the past week, with one in every 360 people diagnosed with COVID-19. According to Johns Hopkins data, its seven-day rolling average of daily deaths has nearly doubled over the past two weeks. The CEO of CoxHealth says the increase in deaths prompted it to bring in temporary cooling equipment for bodies.

https://www.kwch.com/2021/07/28/kansas-city-re-impose-mask-mandate-covid-19-cases-surge/
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Arkansas COVID hospitalizations top 1,000; Governor 'evaluating options' on current anti-mask law
by Associated Press and KATV | July 27th 2021

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — The number of people hospitalized in Arkansas because of COVID-19 reached 1,025 on Tuesday as the governor and legislative leaders met to discuss calls to allow schools to require face masks.

The state reported 387 COVID-19 patients under intensive care and 205 on ventilators. Only 3% of the state’s intensive care unit beds and 20% of its hospital beds are available.

Arkansas logged 2,052 new cases Tuesday. The state ranks second in the country for new cases per capita, according to Johns Hopkins University research data.

Ten more deaths were linked to the virus, bringing the state's total to 6,087.

Republican Gov. Asa Hutchinson met with legislative leaders Tuesday to discuss a potential special session to address school safety concerns amid the surge in cases. A law Hutchinson signed earlier this year, Act 1002, bans mask mandates by local or state governments.

"In the coming days, I will be evaluating options for legislative changes to Act 1002 that will give our schools more local control on meeting the health needs of the students as we enter a new school year in the face of the Delta variant," Hutchinson said in a written statement. "I will not make a decision on a special session until legislative leadership has an opportunity to discuss options further with their members.”

Democratic lawmakers, the Little Rock school board and others have urged the state to allow school districts to require masks.
https://katv.com/news/local/arkansas-covid-hospitalizations-top-1000
 
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The U.K and Israel are reporting conflicting numbers on Pfizer's efficacy against mild symptomatic Delta infections (88% vs 40%), though they are in agreement on its excellent protection against serious Covid illness and hospitalization (around 90%).

Both countries could be right, due to their vastly different roll-out strategies, most notably the different dosing intervals between the two shots that generates different levels of neutralizing antibodies in similar demographics.

The studies' conclusions on the outcome reinforces what the doctors have been saying all along: if vaccinated people gets infected, their immune system is well-prepared to overwhelms the virus and prevents it from turning them into coronavirus factories.

That also explain why 99% of the hospitalized Covid patients gasping for air in U.S hospitals right now are confirmed to be unvaccinated.

At the end of the day, what's undisputed beyond any doubts and confirmed by both countries' data sets is that immunization remains the most effective tool to keep our hospitals from being overrun with dying Covid patients, unlike the healthcare disaster that vulnerable countries all over the world are facing when the Delta wave reaches their shores long before their citizens have ANY protection at all.
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Is Israel or the UK right when it comes to COVID-19 vaccine efficacy against Delta?
By MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN | JULY 24, 2021​

Is the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine 88% or only 40% effective against preventing symptomatic infection?

Two separate studies, one published by Israel’s Health Ministry and the other published in the New England Journal of Medicine late Thursday showed striking differences.

“This discrepancy is kind of unsettling and needs to be further investigated,” said Prof. Cyrille Cohen, a member of the advisory committee for clinical trials on SARS-COV2 vaccines at the Health Ministry.

Specifically, the ministry’s study found that the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine was only 40% effective against symptomatic cases of COVID-19 and 39% effective at stopping infection at all against the Delta variant.

It did, however, show that the vaccine remains 91% effective against developing serious cases of the disease and 88% effective against hospitalization.

The British study, in contrast, found that two doses of the Pfizer vaccine were 88% effective against stopping symptomatic infection against the Delta variant.

The study was authored by researchers from Public Health England, the National Institute of Health Research, Guy’s and St. Thomas’ Hospital NHS Trust and the University of Oxford.

The Delta variant is currently responsible for more than 90% of cases in the country and has been found to be significantly more contagious.

According to Cohen, there are several possible answers to the data gap.

First and critical is the difference in time between exposure to the Delta variant and vaccination.

England vaccinated at a much slower pace than Israel, meaning that the majority of its population was only fully vaccinated by mid-April 2021. This is in contrast to Israel, where around 90% of the country’s most vulnerable population were jabbed by the end of January.

It is beginning to become clear that vaccine immunity begins to wane after about six months. The Israeli study showed that for people vaccinated more than six months ago, the effectiveness of the vaccine at stopping coronavirus dropped to as low as 16%.

Among more than 1.8 million people who received two shots by January 31, some 5,770 contracted the virus – and 1,181 of them, or 20% of all new infections, were contracted during the week of July 11 to 17, the Health Ministry reported.

“If you take into account that they [the UK population] vaccinated later and were exposed to the Delta variant a month before us,” Cohen said, “it could make sense that at the point they checked, they had around 80% effectiveness. The question is what is going to happen in three months? Will they see the same efficacy that we are seeing?”

THE NEXT issue is age.

Both Israel and the UK were careful to first vaccinate healthcare workers and the elderly. In England, however, the older population was largely administered the AstraZeneca vaccine, whereas people under 40 were offered Pfizer or Moderna as an alternative, due to evidence linking AstraZeneca to rare blood clots. The same study showed that the AstraZeneca vaccine was only 67% effective against symptomatic disease after two doses.

In Israel, everyone received Pfizer. Breakthrough infections were most prominent among people aged 60 and older, a cohort that already has a greater tendency to be immunocompromised and prone to developing symptomatic if not severe cases of COVID-19.

A third explanation relates to the level of PCR testing carried out in the two countries. Israel uses a more sensitive or stringent PCR testing regime than the UK.

Genetic matter from the virus is amplified in cycles by PCR tests. The more cycles that are run, the more likely the lab is to detect the virus. Israel uses 37 amplifying cycles, which means that you are positive for the coronavirus even if the test process required up to 37 cycles to detect the virus.

“If the PCR testing is less sensitive, England may miss some cases – or Israel may catch more cases – and that could play a role in the numbers,” Cohen said.

Finally, a separate Oxford University study that was published over the weekend found that an eight-week gap between the first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine is a “sweet spot” when it comes to generating neutralizing antibodies.

When England launched its vaccination campaign, it did not have enough doses to vaccinate the population according to Pfizer’s recommended regime of two doses three weeks apart. As such, it spread doses out to between four and 12 weeks to allow more people to get at least one jab.

Specifically, the new research showed that neutralizing antibody levels, the level of those antibodies responsible for defending cells from pathogens, were higher after the extended dosing interval (six to 14 weeks) compared to the conventional three-to-four-week regime.

In contrast, the T cell response was of a marginally lower magnitude after the longer dosing interval. T cells provide longer-term immunity and scientists believe that they could provide some immunity to COVID-19, even when antibodies become less effective at fighting the disease.

“The question is: Would you wait eight weeks when there is a pandemic?” Cohen asked, noting that separate studies have shown that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is only around 30% effective against the Delta variant, which would leave the population vulnerable for two months. “It’s a tough question.”

Cohen’s solution is to provide a third shot to the most vulnerable people, which new research is starting to show does a good job in boosting antibody levels.

“We are still learning the best way to immunize people with these vaccines,” he said. “But we are still in the middle of the pandemic.”

https://m.jpost.com/ israel-pfizer-news/is-israel-or-the-uk-right-when-it-comes-to-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-674766/amp
Great post and should be mandatory reading for everyone in here who has a lot of questions. Sally, I don't think they will read it.

Bottom line is that the vaccines showed in both studies to be ~90% effective in preventing serious illness from the delta variant. That's good news. The facts that it also prevents any symptoms, and by that perhaps infection, in ~40% as a low end and ~80% as a high end isn't bad news either. Still, more research is needed.
 
But the majority of people who had covid were asymptomatic or mild symptoms before the vaccine, thats what is confusing, I always thought if you had gotten covid that you will develop a stronger immune response in the future naturally so the next time you get covid its softer or more mild.



Tid speàkd truth.
 
Been getting vaccines since we were children. Now, ever since that autism/vaccine linked fraud doctor, many are scared to death of them. That Domino's pizza I ate today has more crap in it than the vaccine does.
I see the same paranoid delusions with statins as if they're part of a big pharma conspiracy.
Strange times.
 
Been getting vaccines since we were children. Now, ever since that autism/vaccine linked fraud doctor, many are scared to death of them. That Domino's pizza I ate today has more crap in it than the vaccine does.
I see the same paranoid delusions with statins as if they're part of a big pharma conspiracy.
Strange times.


Ya that’s why I don’t stuff my face with garbage and keep myself healthy so I don’t have to be reliant on an exogenous source to provide for my health.

Strange times indeed
 
Been getting vaccines since we were children. Now, ever since that autism/vaccine linked fraud doctor, many are scared to death of them. That Domino's pizza I ate today has more crap in it than the vaccine does.
I see the same paranoid delusions with statins as if they're part of a big pharma conspiracy.
Strange times.

Its easier to blame a big corporation when something bad happens to your child and you fail to take responsibility for actions you may have done to cause whatever bad happened. Granted, that’s nit the case 100% of the time as the human body being so complex we still haven’t perfected medication to the point it is specifically tailored to each individual.
 
Ya that’s why I don’t stuff my face with garbage and keep myself healthy so I don’t have to be reliant on an exogenous source to provide for my health.

Strange times indeed

That won’t help if you were born with diabetes but great point.
 
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