Economy August Jobs Report a massive disappointment

[Jack V Savage]

^^^ Cope Post #2

Pathetic.

Hmm. First I just mentioned a basic fact about the economic situation, then you got mad about it and contradicted your attack on Biden, and then when I pointed that out, you totally changed the subject (something about Afghanistan, while we were talking about jobs--LOL).

 

[Jack V Savage]

For obvious reasons, they are not comparable.
You're too smart to not understand why that stat is irrelevant.

If you want to get deeper into the analysis, we can do that, but it's pretty funny when fanboys of the first president in almost a century to leave office with fewer jobs than he came in with are screeching about +235K for a month amid a pandemic wave.

 

[Whippy McGee]

???



By mentioning facts that make you mad?



The funny thing about this analytical approach is that it's only when things are not running smoothly that policy really makes a difference. Trump's inept response certainly contributed to the level of jobs lost in the pandemic, and Biden's competent economic response has contributed to the exceptionally strong recovery.

You're full of crap. It's all about the pandemic. Trump was doing great economically.... up to that point. I notice you left the metrics out.

All honest people with a brain in their head don't blame Trump for the economic collapse. It was the pandemic as the chart clearly reveals. You are either not honest or an idiot... or both.

 

[Jack V Savage]

You're full of crap. It's all about the pandemic. Trump was doing great economically.... up to that point. I notice you left the metrics out.

All honest people with a brain in their head don't blame Trump for the economic collapse. It was the pandemic as the chart clearly reveals. You are either not honest or an idiot... or both.

So the negative job growth under Trump was because of the pandemic, but the slowdown from off-the-charts strong job growth under Biden has nothing to do with the Delta variant? And of course honest people who aren't morons know that Trump's inept response to the pandemic (basically pretending it was going to magically go away so the stock market would calm down) contributed to the depth of the job losses. Similarly, you can't honestly claim that the crazy good numbers since Biden took over have had nothing to do with the strong public-health and economic response.

 

[AWilder]

So the negative job growth under Trump was because of the pandemic, but the slowdown from off-the-charts strong job growth under Biden has nothing to do with the Delta variant? And of course honest people who aren't morons know that Trump's inept response to the pandemic (basically pretending it was going to magically go away so the stock market would calm down) contributed to the depth of the job losses. Similarly, you can't honestly claim that the crazy good numbers since Biden took over have had nothing to do with the strong public-health and economic response.

The RW NPCs logic programming must be broken.

 

[bobgeese]

Hmm. First I just mentioned a basic fact about the economic situation, then you got mad about it and contradicted your attack on Biden, and then when I pointed that out, you totally changed the subject (something about Afghanistan, while we were talking about jobs--LOL).

"A basic fact"

A "fact" that was entirely moronic once you factor in context.

WW2 was good for black and female employment, too bad 75 million people died.






And yes, Afghanistan is yet another Biden failure.

 

[Jack V Savage]

The RW NPCs logic programming must be broken.

It's hilarious. After years of screeching that the only reason job growth continued on exactly the same trajectory it was on during Obama's presidency was Trump's magical Business Guy powers, they suddenly realized that job numbers don't solely reflect the president's performance, and then they suddenly forgot that this morning. I'm guessing they'll remember again next month.

 

[Jack V Savage]

"A basic fact"

A "fact" that was entirely moronic once you factor in context.

You said that Biden's presidency has been a disappointment. I just pointed out that job growth even this month--after two months of around a million(!)--was still more than in Trump's entire presidency. I guess your expectations for Biden were pretty high. And the subject-changing attempt is a clear tapout, is it not? This is why you lost the last election. People were willing to roll the dice, but we see that there are real consequences to putting a corrupt buffoon in the WH.

 

[RogerB08]

Don't worry; in a month or so there will be a super misleading spike when seasonal hiring starts.

 

[Mr Holmes]

the pandemic is still going on though. Honestly WTF are you fools talking about?

We started opening up when Biden took office. You guys can't really be this dense.

 

[Mr Holmes]

If you want to get deeper into the analysis, we can do that, but it's pretty funny when fanboys of the first president in almost a century to leave office with fewer jobs than he came in with are screeching about +235K for a month amid a pandemic wave.

Is there a new shelter in place movement the rest of us are unaware of?

 

[kenetics]

Extra unemployment running out, the lazy will start looking for work soon...


Calm down, I know not everyone collecting is lazy. But there is plenty of work out there. Shit, if anyone here needs a job, Louisville area, I need 2 laborers right now. Been looking for 2 months, nobody "wants" to work anymore...

You do know some states stop the extra unemployment right? The numbers are still low.

 

[kenetics]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/03/jobs-report-august-2021.html

Oh well, who knows how much should be blamed on the Administration. I'm sure the Delta Variant is not helping. Still a horrible miss of expectations.

If hiring does actually slow, we are fucked. High inflation and millions of immigrants is a recipe for disaster in a slow economy.

Na. Looks like illegals are going to get that work of muricans don't want to work.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

So the negative job growth under Trump was because of the pandemic, but the slowdown from off-the-charts strong job growth under Biden has nothing to do with the Delta variant? And of course honest people who aren't morons know that Trump's inept response to the pandemic (basically pretending it was going to magically go away so the stock market would calm down) contributed to the depth of the job losses. Similarly, you can't honestly claim that the crazy good numbers since Biden took over have had nothing to do with the strong public-health and economic response.

I'll go with neither guy having much to do with it.

Covid created a type of fear and uncertainty I've not seen in my lifetime. As was easily predicted, the nation turtling up didn't make the disease go away. So now we have a new surge that's caused by a more dangerous variant, but a less drastic response (so far) because circumstances and perspectives have changed in a year.

 

[kenetics]

^^^ Cope Post


Did you attend the Taliban parade outfitted by Joe?

We know Trump did since he was negotiating with the them lol.

 

[kenetics]

People have been raising pay too, so much for the idea that people will work if you give them more.

That and immigrants will do the job if Americans won't. We can rest that excuse that jobs aren't paying enough even though all wages have risen because of lack of American workers.

 

[Whippy McGee]

So the negative job growth under Trump was because of the pandemic, but the slowdown from off-the-charts strong job growth under Biden has nothing to do with the Delta variant? And of course honest people who aren't morons know that Trump's inept response to the pandemic (basically pretending it was going to magically go away so the stock market would calm down) contributed to the depth of the job losses. Similarly, you can't honestly claim that the crazy good numbers since Biden took over have had nothing to do with the strong public-health and economic response.

I never said dick about Biden and the Delta Variant. Why would you ask that question? Clearly, all the pandemic crap has an economic impact in significant ways.

Trump's response to the Pandemic was fine with the travel restrictions, Operation Warp Speed, and daily briefings. Trump peddled optimism. That's what he does. Biden hasn't done shit, except reap the benefits of Trump's Vaccines.

You're full of crap and you know it, but here you are anyways.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Unemployment still fell.

There's a phenomenon called the "Great Resignation" where a bunch of millenials are leaving jobs this year without looking for a new job. They plan to start work next year

I am sure the reason is also problary a number of those jobs are problary pushing vax mandates and passports surely they dont have anything to do with a disappointment jobs data?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Don't worry; in a month or so there will be a super misleading spike when seasonal hiring starts.

The reported numbers are seasonally adjusted.

I'll go with neither guy having much to do with it.

Covid created a type of fear and uncertainty I've not seen in my lifetime. As was easily predicted, the nation turtling up didn't make the disease go away. So now we have a new surge that's caused by a more dangerous variant, but a less drastic response (so far) because circumstances and perspectives have changed in a year.

I think a competent response to the pandemic from the federal gov't from the start clearly would have lead to fewer job losses, and a less-effective economic/healthcare plan in 2021 would have led to a slower recovery (you can look around the world to see that). And we have a less-drastic response this time largely because of widespread vaccination.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I never said dick about Biden and the Delta Variant. Why would you ask that question? Clearly, all the pandemic crap has an economic impact in significant ways.

Do you not know what thread you're in? Look at the context of my comments.

Trump's response to the Pandemic was fine with the travel restrictions, Operation Warp Speed, and daily briefings. Trump peddled optimism. That's what he does. Biden hasn't done shit, except reap the benefits of Trump's Vaccines.

You're full of crap and you know it, but here you are anyways.

Trump saying he wanted a vaccine doesn't make it "his" vaccines, and getting the vaccinations into people is the important part, which has been extraordinarily well-managed under Biden, with the only people not getting it now being morons who don't want it.